Betterman....come On!!!

i love betterman, my friends dont (they think its soft) but fuck them they dont know shit!!Who's with me?
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  • yeah i love betterman, and soft isnt a problem is it??
  • yeah, i'm right there with you on the love for this one
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  • MeddleDealMeddleDeal Posts: 2,547
    But of course, I LOVE Betterman. Never get sick and tired of that song. I love it when they use the English Beat's Save It For Later tag...makes me want to dance:D
    ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~ø~
    ~*STONEY PONY all the WAY!*~
    ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    I do. It stuck with me even when I heard it on the radio for the very first time. I was always intrigued with the lyric..."she dreams in color, she dreams in red".
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • i'm a little tired of betterman... but it's a nice song...

    i just love when there's a tag :)
    Don't let me know we're invisible
    Don't let me know we're invisible
    We could dance, dance, dance thru' the fire
    Dance, dance, dance thru' the fire
  • I absolutly love Betterman...

    The first time I heard it live I cried. It was absolutly amazing.

    I love the tags....my favorite would have to be Save it for later also...it just fits so well with the song :D
    Underneath this smile lies everything
    all my hopes, anger, pride and shame...
  • my fav is Why Can't i Touch it.... from East Troy boot
    Don't let me know we're invisible
    Don't let me know we're invisible
    We could dance, dance, dance thru' the fire
    Dance, dance, dance thru' the fire
  • I also really love it when they tag Save It For Later onto the end!! I was soooo excited when they played it when I was at the Raleigh show this year!!
    "Music for me is one of the more healing art forms. I think anybody can put on a pair of headphones and put in a disk or play a record and have it change them." - Jeff

    Viva la vinyl.

    PJ - 10/4/96, 9/4/98, 8/4/00, 8/6/00, 4/15/03, 4/16/03, 10/6/04, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 10/31/09, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/29/13, 10/30/13

    Ed Solo - 7/8/11 (shook Eddie's hand!)
  • And the best part about this song, on this tour, ed lets the crowd sing the intro. Its absolutely incredible.
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  • I like it live, but i try to stay away otherwise...i have other lyrical memorizations to attend to....good song , but even the non- PJ fan likes betterman...good song just a little Vitalogy for me
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  • How can you like Pearl Jam and not like Betterman?
  • quite possibly my favorite...song...ever. it has it all. a tag works great, too. :)
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • TonykinTonykin Posts: 252
    Best son of Vitalogy. When I bought the tape in my small town in Sinaloa, Mexico it was pretty much the only song I rewinded tape for more than 3 times in a row.

    Most of non-PJ fans I know like my friends, cousins, coworkers, etc. loves betterman....

    Even Bad Radio demo version that has not the greatest quality, I love it.

    "... Tan suato mi'jo!!"

    -Salomón & Artemisa Vargas
  • A lot of people don't like "Betterman" ..... Unfortunately overplayed on the Radio all these years.


    I however, was just reintroduced to the song and really understand it now, resulting from occurences in my own life...
    "Now when people ask me, where's my favorite place to play, I'll reply, Newark NJ!" -EV (solo '08)
  • matetematete Posts: 306
    sevensins wrote:
    i love betterman, my friends dont (they think its soft) but fuck them they dont know shit!!Who's with me?

    I'm with you.
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    Thank you... I am sure this song was not only meant for ME but for the many that go through this.....

    Waitin', watchin' the clock
    It's four o'clock, it's got to stop

    Me:waiting for my husband to come home! This is crazy the jerk is out constantly, nobody here what kind of relationship is this?


    Tell him, take no more
    She practices her speeches,

    Me: in the mirror, talking to myself, saying things that I want to say to the ass when he gets here!

    he opens the door
    She rolls over
    Pretends to sleep as he looks her over

    Me: in bed, the fucker is home, I'm so pissed off!!! I'm not gonna say anything now I'm exhausted!! Asshole jumps in bed wants to screw----FUCK YOU!!!

    1-She lies and says she's in love with him
    Can't find a better man

    ME...oh how true, I do lie, lie through my teeth, I tell him I love him everyday...

    I can't find a better man...
    Me: is there a fucking decent one out there? Everytime I start a relationship that asshole is worse than the one before....

    She dreams in color, she dreams in red (ed?)
    Can't find a better man, can't find a better man (vedder man)
    Ohh

    Me: I do dream of Eddie Vedder, on a constant basis, why I have no idea? have I reached into a higher place than I realize? Why Ed why? I can't believe that you be my savior, but you of all people. I don't understand? When I sleep I am in a safe place and your there.

    Talkin', to herself there's no one else
    Who needs to know
    She, tells herself, oh...

    Me: all alone for years, not telling a soul about my husband's drug and alcohol problem, frankly I'm quite ashamed & all I have are these dreams of Ed Vedder, who the hell needs to know that? They will just put me in a fucking mental institution!!! My life is a fucking wreck!

    Memories back when she was bold and strong
    And waiting for the world to, come along
    Swears she knew it, now she swears he's (its) gone

    Me:I was such a beautiful young girl, brains, charm, wit...I had the world by the balls when I met this asshole, I had the talent to do and be anything I wanted...now, I'm just a beatin' down woman trying to make her way...

    (rpt 1)

    She lies and says she still loves him
    Can't find a better man...
    She dreams in color, she dreams in red
    Can't find a better man
    Can't find a better man

    Me: yah same fuckin' story over and over...years and years.....

    She loved him, yeah...
    She don't want to leave (live) this way

    Me: I did love him once, or at least I thought I did...I've fucked up my life...do I leave or stay? I can't live like this......

    She feeds him, yeah
    That's why she'll be back again

    Me: All used up....taking all my positve energy and all those wonderful things I had as a young woman. I have no where to go...neglected and abused..nobody going to want this old lady..I have nothing to give anymore! I guess I stay with the asshole....

    Can't find a better man...

    Me: yeah, where are you betterman?
  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    A lot of people don't like "Betterman" ..... Unfortunately overplayed on the Radio all these years.

    I haven't heard it on the radio in years the only PJ songs they play here are Jeremy, Even Flow, Alive, and Black. If they feel a little zany they'll play Daughter.
  • dreamncolordreamncolor Posts: 380
    i think it is fairly evident how i feel about betterman. ;) simple, yet haunting words......beautiful imagery, lyrics that touch deeply....


    she dreams in color, she dreams in red........




    yes.
    i'll ride the wave where it takes me
  • PiCTuReKePTPiCTuReKePT Posts: 311
    betterman....i have never met anyone who hasn't admired those lyrics;
    she dreams in color she dreams in red can't find a betterman...
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    San Antonio 2003!

    Two dozen other billion lovers,
    But I'll be a sucker for it.
    Don't you cry to your mother,
    Just hold my hand while
    I come to a decision on it.
    Sooner or later,
    You'll live the way you think about.
    Save it for later,
    Don't runaway, don't let me down.
    Sooner or later,
    You'll hit the ditch, and he'll find out.
    Save it for later, don't
    Runaway, runaway
  • Linzi-86Linzi-86 Posts: 2
    fantastic...i've been arguing with my 'friend' about this song for months!!!

    it is one of the best in my opinion, whether its 'soft' or not...ace.
    i know you'll be a sun in somebody else's sky....
  • Can't find a better man...

    Me: yeah, where are you betterman?


    <---- I'm right here..... never left really.


    Was dead to the world for 2yrs while i was... "Married"... but now I'm back!


    ~inquis
    "Now when people ask me, where's my favorite place to play, I'll reply, Newark NJ!" -EV (solo '08)
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    i just had to post in response to kosmicjelli.....if indeed you feel this way.......you are NEVER too old to change your life for the better, not ever. btw - you are younger than me, yes i looked ;)....and i certainly feel far from old, and my life holds much promise and opportunity ahead. it truly is how you see it. i am sorry you have gone through all this, but it can make you a stronger woman....and you CAN find your betterman if you so desire. or at the very least, find your happiness within yourself, be your own woman. best of luck. :)
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • Raider917 wrote:
    How can you like Pearl Jam and not like Betterman?

    Its because of all those PPJF's(poser pearl jam fans) who sign on after hearing "Save You" and "Jeremy" no offense they're good songs(the latter song is better) but if you only listen to those songs you are no longer a PJ fan but of musical "Insignificance" (PS insignificance is one of my favorite songs on binaural)
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  • this is one of the best songs to cum out of the states!! love it nuffin wrong wif being soft. me and mi gf just love to sit and listen to it
  • stonesgstringstonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    "She lies and says she still loves him, can't find a betterman"

    I love this song. :)
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    great song. overplayed though.
  • EJohnsonEJohnson Posts: 1
    Sorry. I believe the line was "this is dedicated to the bastard that married my mama". I hate when people misquote stuff.

    This isn't just a good song. It's a Rock and Roll CLASSIC.

    Your friends are crazy. Get new friends.
  • stonesgstringstonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    great song. overplayed though.

    I think the problem may be that because they play it at nearly every show people think it's overplayed. It loses some of the magic I guess when it's played so often but I still love it. I personally can never hear this song too often.
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  • corycory Posts: 736
    A lot of people don't like "Betterman" ..... Unfortunately overplayed on the Radio all these years.


    I however, was just reintroduced to the song and really understand it now, resulting from occurences in my own life...


    Found out my ex g/f cheated on me with the same kid during the last 6months of my 2yr relationship with her.... She was still sleeping in my bed every night... Somehow kept a straight face when she looked me in the eye everyday and said "I love you".... but only in response to me saying it first....


    sigh...


    Not to put you down in any way, but, do you see the irony between your username and the story you told?


    Topic - Betterman.......great song. One of my top 3 EVER.
    Revive the heart of the heartless...

    Why would you start was has no end?
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