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'The Shades' on Vs.

vedhead011vedhead011 Posts: 300
edited November 2007 in Words and Music...Communication
So, in Daughter, "The shades go down", and a couple songs later, in Rearviewmirror, "Finally the shades are raised". Coincidence? Thoughts?
AskPearlJam: PearlJama101-guest says: Who's idea was it for Eddie to play banjo on "Soon Forget"?
Eddie: I don't know whose idea it was but it was turned down.
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  • smile05smile05 Posts: 600
    shady album

    sorry,couldnt resist that one.
    1:Black 2:Corduroy 3:All Those Yesterdays 4:I Got ID 5:Smile

    They can buy but cant put on my clothes
    Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~

    Let's go for three in a row, no sorry i can't think of anything thats not funny. - Paul Merton

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  • smile05smile05 Posts: 600
    If I were to change my screen name, "Thread Killer" would be near the top of the list.


    nice one,often thought the same thing.I will go with Thread Killers Little Bro!!!!
    1:Black 2:Corduroy 3:All Those Yesterdays 4:I Got ID 5:Smile

    They can buy but cant put on my clothes
    Throw down my ace in the hole~~~~~~

    Let's go for three in a row, no sorry i can't think of anything thats not funny. - Paul Merton

    London96,Manchester00,Berlin06,London07
  • vedhead011vedhead011 Posts: 300
    And threads that I start have a double whammy and no chance of getting off the ground!
    AskPearlJam: PearlJama101-guest says: Who's idea was it for Eddie to play banjo on "Soon Forget"?
    Eddie: I don't know whose idea it was but it was turned down.
  • is it just my wayis it just my way Posts: 96
    no coincident in my eyes... for me i take it as "the shades go down" of the house go down so no one can see whats going on inside, with "finally the shades are raised" to me it means the secret is out, the shades of that house previous have been raised and what went on is out in the open.. but thats just my take on it.. i just truly don't believe that anything with pearl jam is co incidence
  • Dogman3Dogman3 Posts: 330
    I've never thought about it. Really cool. Kinda like Breath-Yellowledbetter

    Breath:

    Whoa. I suggest you step out on your porch.
    Oh yeah. Huh. huh. Huh huh, yeah.
    Run away my son. See it all. Oh see the world.


    Yellow Ledbetter:

    Unsealed on a porch a letter sat.
    Then you said, "I wanna leave it again."

    Ah yeah, can you see them out on the porch? Yeah, but they don't wave.
    But I see them round the front way. Yeah.
    And I know, and I know. I don't wanna stay at all.


    Two b-sides, cult favorites, and from the same era? No coincidence. I could also throw in another song from the same time "Porch" itself, but I don't think it has anything to do with the two songs above.
  • Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
    I think they talk about this in one of the two books that are out.
    Obviously the stories in each song are about different characters, but I think they relate to eachother.
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  • cookiescookies Posts: 113
    Well if they do relate shades being your eyelids. In daughter she can't see and in RVM you see it all.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    When I look through a window the room is bigger. The shades drawn bring in light, bring in potential, the outside, an escape, but towards something. Shades down are similar to how we feel when we retreat; we almost drown in the lack of answers.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Spot In The Sky wrote:
    I think they talk about this in one of the two books that are out.
    Obviously the stories in each song are about different characters, but I think they relate to eachother.
    yes, they relate to each other. i loved that when i first heard vs.

    i recall a later interview (perhaps, after vitalogy?) in which ed talks about sticking to a particular theme in the albums that pj make.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    vedhead011 wrote:
    So, in Daughter, "The shades go down", and a couple songs later, in Rearviewmirror, "Finally the shades are raised". Coincidence? Thoughts?

    coincidence? probably not. in daughter she was caught within her circumstances. in RVM she has finally managed to break free of those circumstances.
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  • SpencerSpencer Posts: 867
    catefrances wrote:
    coincidence? probably not. in daughter she was caught within her circumstances. in RVM she has finally managed to break free of those circumstances.

    Exactly, Rearviewmirror is like Part 2 to Daughter's Part 1. It's no coincidence.
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