Hannity and his.......

mickeyrat
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I say bullshit. this article show some devious shit......

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/apr/22/michael-cohen-sean-hannity-property-real-estate-ben-carson-hud

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,777
    The article/issue seems like much ado about nothing new.

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    edited April 2018
    I think it is funny the article uses the term "shell companies".  Um, that is what just about anyone who buys real estate does.  They setup an LLC to purchase the property for legal, estate planning and privacy reasons.  Then they setup another one to buy the next piece of real estate.  Using the term "shell company" makes it sound like a sham or illegal when it actually is fairly common and prudent.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,119
    bootlegger10 said:
    I think it is funny the article uses the term "shell companies".  Um, that is what just about anyone who buys real estate does.  They setup an LLC to purchase the property for legal, estate planning and privacy reasons.  Then they setup another one to buy the next piece of real estate.  Using the term "shell company" makes it sound like a sham or illegal when it actually is fairly common and prudent.
    Like having 600 “shell” companies is normal? Or if you want to launder money, avoid paying taxes or pay off women you’ve had sex with?
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  • JimmyV
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    If Hannity's relationship with Cohen was normal and above board, wouldn't he have disclosed it to his audience long before getting outed in court?
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  • brianlux
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    bootlegger10 said:
    I think it is funny the article uses the term "shell companies".  Um, that is what just about anyone who buys real estate does.  They setup an LLC to purchase the property for legal, estate planning and privacy reasons.  Then they setup another one to buy the next piece of real estate.  Using the term "shell company" makes it sound like a sham or illegal when it actually is fairly common and prudent.
    You're absolutely right.  Our modern day capitalist system is riddled with loop holes and shady deals.

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    brianlux said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I think it is funny the article uses the term "shell companies".  Um, that is what just about anyone who buys real estate does.  They setup an LLC to purchase the property for legal, estate planning and privacy reasons.  Then they setup another one to buy the next piece of real estate.  Using the term "shell company" makes it sound like a sham or illegal when it actually is fairly common and prudent.
    You're absolutely right.  Our modern day capitalist system is riddled with loop holes and shady deals.

    "Steal a little and they put you in jail steal a lot [and make it look legit], and they make you king." -Bob Dylan

    I don't think there are any loopholes or shady deals going on with your typical real estate investor setting up LLC's to own the properties.  Nothing illegal or nefarious going on there.  I'm not a lawyer but would suspect most lawyers would recommend to purchase property through an LLC so if someone slips and falls on your property that you could limit  the liability to just the assets of the LLC (or try to).  You can use LLC units for gifting/estate purposes and transfer of ownership.  When someone has a lot of money and investments things can get complicated, not illegal. 

    Now, if Hannity is doing something illegal, then it is shady regardless of what legal entities he would be using to hide it.  I just think the term shell company has a negative connotation to it and is probably intentional used by the author to convince the reader there is something wrong. 

    I can't stand Sean Hannity.  I think he is a despicable person and dangerous to America.  Free country though so I am fine with him having a radio program and tv program. 


  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I think it is funny the article uses the term "shell companies".  Um, that is what just about anyone who buys real estate does.  They setup an LLC to purchase the property for legal, estate planning and privacy reasons.  Then they setup another one to buy the next piece of real estate.  Using the term "shell company" makes it sound like a sham or illegal when it actually is fairly common and prudent.
    Like having 600 “shell” companies is normal? Or if you want to launder money, avoid paying taxes or pay off women you’ve had sex with?

    I didn't see the 600 number.  I saw that there were 30 LLC's. 

    I would bet if you were an American and you and a friend thought it would be a good investment to purchase some real estate and lease it, that you would setup an LLC to do it.  And then let's say it worked out well and you wanted to invest in another property and bring in a second friend to invest.  You would setup another LLC.  Five years later you might have invested in four more properties and you are up to 6 different LLC's.   Your motivation likely wouldn't be privacy because you aren't a famous person (to my knowledge). 

    But if you were a famous person, having LLC's and not have everyone know what you own could be a little bonus.  Some people like privacy. 

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,119
    bootlegger10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I think it is funny the article uses the term "shell companies".  Um, that is what just about anyone who buys real estate does.  They setup an LLC to purchase the property for legal, estate planning and privacy reasons.  Then they setup another one to buy the next piece of real estate.  Using the term "shell company" makes it sound like a sham or illegal when it actually is fairly common and prudent.
    Like having 600 “shell” companies is normal? Or if you want to launder money, avoid paying taxes or pay off women you’ve had sex with?

    I didn't see the 600 number.  I saw that there were 30 LLC's. 

    I would bet if you were an American and you and a friend thought it would be a good investment to purchase some real estate and lease it, that you would setup an LLC to do it.  And then let's say it worked out well and you wanted to invest in another property and bring in a second friend to invest.  You would setup another LLC.  Five years later you might have invested in four more properties and you are up to 6 different LLC's.   Your motivation likely wouldn't be privacy because you aren't a famous person (to my knowledge). 

    But if you were a famous person, having LLC's and not have everyone know what you own could be a little bonus.  Some people like privacy. 

    Team Trump Treason has 600 shell companies and he  and his family are hardly concerned about privacy.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,033
    edited April 2018
    I really don't understand all the hype about the connection between Hannity and Cohen? What's the big deal about owning property as an investment? Whats the big deal that he sought council from Cohen to do it?
    I can't stand Hannity, I wish he'd go off the air.  But all this hype and this article seem like a poor attempt by the rest of the media to make mountains out of mole hills. 
  • Lerxst1992
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    He screams and yells about big government and then hides his identity to profit from big govt HUD loans.

    Even if there is nothing illegal behind the scenes, its sleazy as hell, especially for a "journalist."
  • josevolution
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    He screams and yells about big government and then hides his identity to profit from big govt HUD loans.

    Even if there is nothing illegal behind the scenes, its sleazy as hell, especially for a "journalist."
    I think calling him a journalist is a big stretch ..
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  • jeffbr
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    josevolution said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    He screams and yells about big government and then hides his identity to profit from big govt HUD loans.

    Even if there is nothing illegal behind the scenes, its sleazy as hell, especially for a "journalist."
    I think calling him a journalist is a big stretch ..
    Agreed. He's strictly an entertainer - although I don't find him even slightly entertaining.

    I think the other thing that has people pissed off at him is that he made a big stink about Cohen being raided, and how wrong it was, never disclosing to his viewers that he had a conflict of interest in reporting or editorializing about the story. So here's yet another example where Hannity failed to disclose personal interests while doing opinion pieces that his low-information viewers mistake as news. He's a fraud.
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  • JimmyV
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    jeffbr said:
    josevolution said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    He screams and yells about big government and then hides his identity to profit from big govt HUD loans.

    Even if there is nothing illegal behind the scenes, its sleazy as hell, especially for a "journalist."
    I think calling him a journalist is a big stretch ..
    Agreed. He's strictly an entertainer - although I don't find him even slightly entertaining.

    I think the other thing that has people pissed off at him is that he made a big stink about Cohen being raided, and how wrong it was, never disclosing to his viewers that he had a conflict of interest in reporting or editorializing about the story. So here's yet another example where Hannity failed to disclose personal interests while doing opinion pieces that his low-information viewers mistake as news. He's a fraud.
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  • my2hands
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    jeffbr said:
    josevolution said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    He screams and yells about big government and then hides his identity to profit from big govt HUD loans.

    Even if there is nothing illegal behind the scenes, its sleazy as hell, especially for a "journalist."
    I think calling him a journalist is a big stretch ..
    Agreed. He's strictly an entertainer - although I don't find him even slightly entertaining.

    I think the other thing that has people pissed off at him is that he made a big stink about Cohen being raided, and how wrong it was, never disclosing to his viewers that he had a conflict of interest in reporting or editorializing about the story. So here's yet another example where Hannity failed to disclose personal interests while doing opinion pieces that his low-information viewers mistake as news. He's a fraud.
    100%

    Clear conflict of interest... could you imagine if it was the otherside? Trump would break twitter telling about it

    Hannity proved to be a total fraud, but his watchers dont care in the slightest. Just talk about evil Hillary and they suck it up like guppies
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Is a welfare queen. I wonder if he got his Obamaphone too?

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