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2018 Tour > Facing a Politics-heavy tour (ala 1996) all over again?

mattsavardmattsavard Posts: 518
edited March 2018 in The Porch
As someone who was at the 1996 Charlotte show where the band wallpapered downtown with Jesse Helms "Little White Lies" posters, and brought out Gloria Stienem to speak between sets, I've enjoyed their trend toward minimizing over politics at shows since then. They even address their recognizing fan backlash against overdoing the politics side of things in PJ20. 

Obviously with Trump in office, Ed is worked up (as evidenced by the Cant Deny) single... do we see a resurgence of politics-heavy themes/rants at the 2018 Ballpark shows? 

Honestly I'm a little worried about it detracting from the experience for many, and possibly distracting the band a bit. 

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    Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 722
    Not worried at all. Bring on the anger.

    Anyone can't handle it, find the exits, they're clearly marked.
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    RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,359
    edited March 2018
    The only people who might be distracted could be brand new fans. This is nothing new.
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    SmallestOceansSmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    I don't think it'll be politics heavy, especially at the ballpark shows. There'll be some moments though.
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    guypjfreakguypjfreak Posts: 2,281
    Maybe he's had a nice new Trump mask made up lol 
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    given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,881
    I hope it's more like 2004 VFC.  Don't even try to hide it.  I'm pissed as hell too!
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,754
    SmallestOceans said:
    I don't think it'll be politics heavy, especially at the ballpark shows. There'll be some moments though.
    Agreed. Very little was said at the 2016 park shows and Eddie even apologised for bringing "his" name up at Fenway. They may be fed up though and bring it especially at Missoula.
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    RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,359
    PJNB said:
    SmallestOceans said:
    I don't think it'll be politics heavy, especially at the ballpark shows. There'll be some moments though.
    Agreed. Very little was said at the 2016 park shows and Eddie even apologised for bringing "his" name up at Fenway. They may be fed up though and bring it especially at Missoula.
    That was pre-electtion. All bets are off, now.
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    DM282158DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 527
    2016 was very interesting that they didn’t touch on it much, especially with the heavy political climate: Clinton v. Trump and all the anger it brought. I felt like they sort of recognied how divided/angry/hostile it’s become (which is so sad in my opinion - why can’t people just have a conversation). Nonetheless, I felt like they didn’t want to play a part in dividing even more. I.e. Ed’s comments at Fenway mentioned above. “I didn’t mean to divide us” I think he said. 

    Anyway - very curious to see how much they dive into it this tour. 
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    NAUjackfanNAUjackfan Phoenix Posts: 2,340
    I just saw this updated graphic for Missoula tickets...


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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2004 VFC tour was awesome
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    NAUjackfan said:
    I just saw this updated graphic for Missoula tickets...


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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,058
    I hope Ed bashes Trump every chance he gets. 
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    mattsavardmattsavard Posts: 518
     :) LOL! 

    Interesting responses. Trump is a dickmitten and I didn’t vote for him, but I guess as an 41yo old fart who works hard every day and is tired of politics bleeding into EVERYTHING (I’m looking at you, NFL/ESPN), it’s nice to have an escape from it for a bit.

    Let’s say I guess if i knew i was getting 210 mins with the guys, I’d rather get 3hrs 30min of music instead of 3hrs of music and 30 mins of CNN soundbytes. I get enough of that everywhere else. 

    I get they’ve always been political, I’m not new by any means. ;) I don’t mind a bit of venting before a song or two...  but if gets rolling at least that’ll be a good time to grab a beer or take a piss
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    Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 3,861
    Mike D88 said:
    Not worried at all. Bring on the anger.

    Anyone can't handle it, find the exits, they're clearly marked.
    Couldn't have said it better. Bring the fucking rage. This is a band that has never been known to hold back emotion, or been afraid to speak up when things have needed to be said. Crank up the amps, and let's scream our lungs out till it fills up every room or every stadium in all upcoming cities. 
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,259

    2003 seems like the better analogy.  Bush and the Iraq War were a central focus of "Riot Act" and the tour in support of it.  This was the tour when Eddie was booed at Nassau Coliseum during "Bu$hleaguer."


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    JT167846JT167846 Posts: 820
    One of the benefits about going to gigs where English isn't the native language is Ed doesn't tend to get into the political side very much. Something to consider if you're averse to him speaking his mind.
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    rvapetervapete Posts: 488
    I like angry Eddie far more than family Eddie. Sirens and LB are pukatoriums.  Get Away and My Fathers Son are the only tracks I seek out playing on that album 
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,918
    There will be far more people overly upset by politics at the shows than there will be politics at the shows.
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    northerndragonnortherndragon somewhere, nowhere, anywhere Posts: 9,735
    JimmyV said:
    There will be far more people overly upset by politics at the shows than there will be politics at the shows.
    :lol:

    Sad but true. Band hasn’t changed it’s political outlook or how vocal they are about it for over 25 years. You know it’s coming, if you don’t want to hear it don’t come to the show or tune it out while you’re there.
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    Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,468
    I hate when Pearl Jam gets political. 

    I also hate when hockey teams play hockey at hockey games. I mean, what gives, right?
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    fall by the waysidefall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 753
    ryph raph said:
    Trump and those that still support him are shitty human beings.

    I hope Ed rips them a new asshole every date of the tour.
    Yep. Bring it on. If I can stomach listening to that orange ass every day, some of you can listen to the opposition for a couple of hours.
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    Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,468
    Literally, multiple times per day, every single day for the last 2 years, Trump has made awful statements.  

    Agreed with the above....if I have to listen to that....I think a concert goer (who likes pearl jam) can manage to listen to 2 minutes of a rant before they play Porch. 
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    mpedonempedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,862
    fall by the wayside said:
    ryph raph said:
    Trump and those that still support him are shitty human beings.

    I hope Ed rips them a new asshole every date of the tour.
    Yep. Bring it on. If I can stomach listening to that orange ass every day, some of you can listen to the opposition for a couple of hours.
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    given2fly23 said:
    I hope it's more like 2004 VFC.  Don't even try to hide it.  I'm pissed as hell too!
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    jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,840
    Ticket holders know what they're getting in to. If someone doesn't want to hear the band get political then they may want to stay home on their couch. We're living in times where for many it's difficult at best to keep one's mouth shut in regards to the charlatan who's running our country. Ed's political rhetoric may be toned down for shows outside the U.S., but I fully expect and hope he does voice opinions during the Home & Aways shows.
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    mattcozmattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,161
    edited March 2018

    2018 Tour > Facing a Politics-heavy tour (ala 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017) all over again?

    Fixed that for you.
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    PJMTPJMT Posts: 1
    Politics will likely come up at the Missoula show. The Montana senate race will likely be a close one this year. Democrat Jon Tester is up for re-election. Tester's family is friends with Jeff Ament's family from Montana. The band has supported Tester before in elections/re-elections. Montana is a red state so the band will likely want to try and keep a Dem in office.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,241
    rvapete said:
    I like angry Eddie far more than family Eddie. Sirens and LB are pukatoriums.  Get Away and My Fathers Son are the only tracks I seek out playing on that album 
    Pukatoriums :lol: That is definitely my new favorite word!
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,241
    fall by the wayside said:
    ryph raph said:
    Trump and those that still support him are shitty human beings.

    I hope Ed rips them a new asshole every date of the tour.
    Yep. Bring it on. If I can stomach listening to that orange ass every day, some of you can listen to the opposition for a couple of hours.
    Exactly.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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