CAN'T DENY ME!!!

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  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    I hope this song (and album?) lose some of the whiny fan base. kind of like No Code did with a lot of the casual fans in the 90’s. 
    Yeah, that would be nice
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    october22 said:
    october22 said:
    october22 said:
    It’s a protest song, not a camp fire sing along. It’s a delivery that expresses his frustration and anger with the racist biggot clown who stole and lied his way into the White House. It’s a great cadence for how pissed off we all are.
    Lol 

    How pissed off we all are? I'm not pissed. Millions of us aren't pissed. I will say that it has been sweet, sweet music watching all of you leftist maniacs wear pink hats and scream and cry into the air over nothing. Fake social justice outrage is annoying but hilarious. What was that women's march about? A wage gap that doesn't exist? Or pussies or something? I still haven't gotten an explanation. You have to love a women's march for social justice organized in large part by a conservative Muslim lol

    And what about Black Lives Matter? A movement that began under the proven-false "hands up, don't shoot" narrative that never actually happened. Or how about the violence of antifa? Why doesn't Pearl Jam write a song about the restricted speech on America's campuses?Because it's not trendy to speak the truth about all of this bullshit and call it out for what it is, that's why.

    I've disagreed with Pearl Jam's politics for a long time, but I've always loved their music, including their political songs because the music and lyrics were great and they were actually about something real. It's sad to see them go from anti-war songs, personal songs about suicide or an actually case of police brutality, to generic social justice whining. Read the lyrics to CDM. It's a grown man bitching about nothing. It's pathetic and beneath the talents of this band. 
    Haha. I’m glad the song is pissing you off. Hell of a leader. Be proud of the disgrace you voted in. I’m not even a democrat just someone who loves this song and am glad about it’s message. 

    Do do yourself a favor and learn all the words, its gunna be a great sing along this summer!!!!

    you can’t deny me!!!!
    I voted for Trump? I don't remember saying that. Just because I call out a shitty song for what it is, and group-think, and ill-informed, childish leftist mobs doesn't mean I'm a republican or Trump voter/supporter. I think Trump is a douche and dangerous. But I am damn happy he beat that evil woman, though. You know, that woman caught on tape cackling and bragging about how funny it was when she got a child rapist out of a prison sentence. Yeah, that woman. The woman who was caught "colluding" with the DNC to steal the election from Sanders? The woman who stuck by her rapist husband and accused his victims of lying? Real champion for women's rights there, isn't she? #MeToo   I could go on and on and on...Would you and Pearl Jam have been so outraged if that criminal won? Would you have marched? Would we have such an awesome "protest" song like Can't Deny Me? The left and this band are hypocrites and full of shit. That's all I'm saying.

    Enjoy the shows this summer. Don't forget your pussy hat. 
    You brought up that “child rapist” thing on the AMT and got roundly schooled there for it. You’re still peddling it here, though, even though not a word of it is true. Kind of like Trump does. 

    Did I? That might have been someone else. I honestly don't remember ever posting about that here.

    No way to get schooled about it though. Unless you're splitting hairs about her saying she wouldn't trust a lie detector test after that case. Is that the incredible schooling that was given? Wouldn't hang my hat on that if I were you.
    Nope, I'm not splitting hairs. Your facts are wrong, gleaned from too much right wing media.

    1. Clinton was a court appointed lawyer. Despite this, she attempted to refuse the case, but was told that she had been appointed by the judge and was not allowed to refuse.

    2. That being the case, she defended her client to the best of her abilities, as a lawyer is required to do. The basis of the American legal system is that everyone gets the opportunity to have a competent defense, because the deck is already stacked against each defendant, given the state-funded prosecution. 

    3. Thereafter, she was interviewed on tape about the case. I've read the transcript of the tape. At no point does she laugh about "getting a child rapist out of a prison sentence". At some points she kind of gives a what-can-you-do sort of "ha" about procedural aspects of the case, which she had no control over, but not about the verdict.
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  • october22
    october22 Posts: 2,533
    october22 said:
    october22 said:
    october22 said:
    It’s a protest song, not a camp fire sing along. It’s a delivery that expresses his frustration and anger with the racist biggot clown who stole and lied his way into the White House. It’s a great cadence for how pissed off we all are.
    Lol 

    How pissed off we all are? I'm not pissed. Millions of us aren't pissed. I will say that it has been sweet, sweet music watching all of you leftist maniacs wear pink hats and scream and cry into the air over nothing. Fake social justice outrage is annoying but hilarious. What was that women's march about? A wage gap that doesn't exist? Or pussies or something? I still haven't gotten an explanation. You have to love a women's march for social justice organized in large part by a conservative Muslim lol

    And what about Black Lives Matter? A movement that began under the proven-false "hands up, don't shoot" narrative that never actually happened. Or how about the violence of antifa? Why doesn't Pearl Jam write a song about the restricted speech on America's campuses?Because it's not trendy to speak the truth about all of this bullshit and call it out for what it is, that's why.

    I've disagreed with Pearl Jam's politics for a long time, but I've always loved their music, including their political songs because the music and lyrics were great and they were actually about something real. It's sad to see them go from anti-war songs, personal songs about suicide or an actually case of police brutality, to generic social justice whining. Read the lyrics to CDM. It's a grown man bitching about nothing. It's pathetic and beneath the talents of this band. 
    Haha. I’m glad the song is pissing you off. Hell of a leader. Be proud of the disgrace you voted in. I’m not even a democrat just someone who loves this song and am glad about it’s message. 

    Do do yourself a favor and learn all the words, its gunna be a great sing along this summer!!!!

    you can’t deny me!!!!
    I voted for Trump? I don't remember saying that. Just because I call out a shitty song for what it is, and group-think, and ill-informed, childish leftist mobs doesn't mean I'm a republican or Trump voter/supporter. I think Trump is a douche and dangerous. But I am damn happy he beat that evil woman, though. You know, that woman caught on tape cackling and bragging about how funny it was when she got a child rapist out of a prison sentence. Yeah, that woman. The woman who was caught "colluding" with the DNC to steal the election from Sanders? The woman who stuck by her rapist husband and accused his victims of lying? Real champion for women's rights there, isn't she? #MeToo   I could go on and on and on...Would you and Pearl Jam have been so outraged if that criminal won? Would you have marched? Would we have such an awesome "protest" song like Can't Deny Me? The left and this band are hypocrites and full of shit. That's all I'm saying.

    Enjoy the shows this summer. Don't forget your pussy hat. 
    You brought up that “child rapist” thing on the AMT and got roundly schooled there for it. You’re still peddling it here, though, even though not a word of it is true. Kind of like Trump does. 

    Did I? That might have been someone else. I honestly don't remember ever posting about that here.

    No way to get schooled about it though. Unless you're splitting hairs about her saying she wouldn't trust a lie detector test after that case. Is that the incredible schooling that was given? Wouldn't hang my hat on that if I were you.
    Nope, I'm not splitting hairs. Your facts are wrong, gleaned from too much right wing media.

    1. Clinton was a court appointed lawyer. Despite this, she attempted to refuse the case, but was told that she had been appointed by the judge and was not allowed to refuse.

    2. That being the case, she defended her client to the best of her abilities, as a lawyer is required to do. The basis of the American legal system is that everyone gets the opportunity to have a competent defense, because the deck is already stacked against each defendant, given the state-funded prosecution. 

    3. Thereafter, she was interviewed on tape about the case. I've read the transcript of the tape. At no point does she laugh about "getting a child rapist out of a prison sentence". At some points she kind of gives a what-can-you-do sort of "ha" about procedural aspects of the case, which she had no control over, but not about the verdict.
    No. Go and listen to her chuckle about never trusting a lie detector again after this guy passed it. It is unethical to put forth a not guilty plea if you believe your client is guilty. It's that simple. Nothing "what can you do" or "ha ha" about it in a child rape case. You are splitting hairs. Also pretty funny how this is your best defense against this horrible person. Trump is an asshole and a damn hard candidate to pull a lever for, I'll give you that, but how anyone can admire or defend Hillary Clinton is beyond me. 
  • Travels With
    Travels With Posts: 610
    edited March 2018
    Oftenreading & 10/22 -- I'm sure you're both delightful people.  Please continue your engaging debate on a more appropriate thread.  This is the CDM thread....and on to that note...
    The first 3 listens of this song I wasn't sure.  Parts of it I liked but the song as a whole wasn't speaking to me.  The lines that were stuck in my head kept bringing me back to listen to it again and again.  And now, I love it.  It might be one I don't list to as much once the album comes out but currently, I'm loving it.  Even my 12 year old son is walking around the house singing it.  If this were some other band and I heard this, I may not be drawn to it as much -- not sure.  I do know my PJ bias is in full force with this one and I'm pretty happy to have some new music from them.   
    “I suppose our capacity for self-delusion is boundless.” ― John Steinbeck, Travels with Charley: In Search of America
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    Could this be the most polarising PJ lead single ever!? They’ve release a few singles that certainly got people talking, good and bad, ...Who You Are, Nothing as it Seems, The Fixer, WWS.

    I hope this wasn’t a rushed release? However I’ve got great faith in this band and the decisions they make. They just don’t always make the decisions we expect.

    For what it’s worth I dont mind to the song but it may work better as a cohesive whole with other songs in an album. I wonder what track number it’ll be? I’m hoping it’s not track one. Probably two or three!? 
    they lost a LOT of fans when they put out Who You Are. it confused them. including me. I dropped off a while becuase I didn't appreciate No Code at the time. I think that might be the one. 
    I think their goal at the time was to narrow their fan base and take off some pressure. WYA sure did that.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    october22 said:
    october22 said:
    october22 said:
    october22 said:
    It’s a protest song, not a camp fire sing along. It’s a delivery that expresses his frustration and anger with the racist biggot clown who stole and lied his way into the White House. It’s a great cadence for how pissed off we all are.
    Lol 

    How pissed off we all are? I'm not pissed. Millions of us aren't pissed. I will say that it has been sweet, sweet music watching all of you leftist maniacs wear pink hats and scream and cry into the air over nothing. Fake social justice outrage is annoying but hilarious. What was that women's march about? A wage gap that doesn't exist? Or pussies or something? I still haven't gotten an explanation. You have to love a women's march for social justice organized in large part by a conservative Muslim lol

    And what about Black Lives Matter? A movement that began under the proven-false "hands up, don't shoot" narrative that never actually happened. Or how about the violence of antifa? Why doesn't Pearl Jam write a song about the restricted speech on America's campuses?Because it's not trendy to speak the truth about all of this bullshit and call it out for what it is, that's why.

    I've disagreed with Pearl Jam's politics for a long time, but I've always loved their music, including their political songs because the music and lyrics were great and they were actually about something real. It's sad to see them go from anti-war songs, personal songs about suicide or an actually case of police brutality, to generic social justice whining. Read the lyrics to CDM. It's a grown man bitching about nothing. It's pathetic and beneath the talents of this band. 
    Haha. I’m glad the song is pissing you off. Hell of a leader. Be proud of the disgrace you voted in. I’m not even a democrat just someone who loves this song and am glad about it’s message. 

    Do do yourself a favor and learn all the words, its gunna be a great sing along this summer!!!!

    you can’t deny me!!!!
    I voted for Trump? I don't remember saying that. Just because I call out a shitty song for what it is, and group-think, and ill-informed, childish leftist mobs doesn't mean I'm a republican or Trump voter/supporter. I think Trump is a douche and dangerous. But I am damn happy he beat that evil woman, though. You know, that woman caught on tape cackling and bragging about how funny it was when she got a child rapist out of a prison sentence. Yeah, that woman. The woman who was caught "colluding" with the DNC to steal the election from Sanders? The woman who stuck by her rapist husband and accused his victims of lying? Real champion for women's rights there, isn't she? #MeToo   I could go on and on and on...Would you and Pearl Jam have been so outraged if that criminal won? Would you have marched? Would we have such an awesome "protest" song like Can't Deny Me? The left and this band are hypocrites and full of shit. That's all I'm saying.

    Enjoy the shows this summer. Don't forget your pussy hat. 
    You brought up that “child rapist” thing on the AMT and got roundly schooled there for it. You’re still peddling it here, though, even though not a word of it is true. Kind of like Trump does. 

    Did I? That might have been someone else. I honestly don't remember ever posting about that here.

    No way to get schooled about it though. Unless you're splitting hairs about her saying she wouldn't trust a lie detector test after that case. Is that the incredible schooling that was given? Wouldn't hang my hat on that if I were you.
    Nope, I'm not splitting hairs. Your facts are wrong, gleaned from too much right wing media.

    1. Clinton was a court appointed lawyer. Despite this, she attempted to refuse the case, but was told that she had been appointed by the judge and was not allowed to refuse.

    2. That being the case, she defended her client to the best of her abilities, as a lawyer is required to do. The basis of the American legal system is that everyone gets the opportunity to have a competent defense, because the deck is already stacked against each defendant, given the state-funded prosecution. 

    3. Thereafter, she was interviewed on tape about the case. I've read the transcript of the tape. At no point does she laugh about "getting a child rapist out of a prison sentence". At some points she kind of gives a what-can-you-do sort of "ha" about procedural aspects of the case, which she had no control over, but not about the verdict.
    No. Go and listen to her chuckle about never trusting a lie detector again after this guy passed it. It is unethical to put forth a not guilty plea if you believe your client is guilty. It's that simple. Nothing "what can you do" or "ha ha" about it in a child rape case. You are splitting hairs. Also pretty funny how this is your best defense against this horrible person. Trump is an asshole and a damn hard candidate to pull a lever for, I'll give you that, but how anyone can admire or defend Hillary Clinton is beyond me. 
    It sounds like the brainwashing worked.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump

    Although, I didn't see anything about the propaganda they were pushing to make you think there isn't a wage gap. Sounds like your biggest fears are women with power, women with a voice and Muslims. Man, no wonder you hate this song. It's not awesome, but your bitterness is ridiculous.

    Sorry dude, I didn't realize the Attack of the Body Snatchers sequel had come out as Attack of the Mind Snatchers. Most of the people you are arguing with aren't even "leftists", but what ever makes you feel superior since you know. What do I know, I voted for a child rapist supporter over an actual sexual predator and habitual liar.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • kb272930
    kb272930 Posts: 62
     awesome post ! I agree too many hive mentality " oh this song is great " because it bashes Trump people on this board . well said dude .

     " Don't forget your pussy hat " classic . Must be nice surfing around the world and playing fund raisers for your corporate friends .

  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    kb272930 said:
     awesome post ! I agree too many hive mentality " oh this song is great " because it bashes Trump people on this board . well said dude .

     " Don't forget your pussy hat " classic . Must be nice surfing around the world and playing fund raisers for your corporate friends .

    You could also say there is too many people using the same hive mentality dismissing it because it is dissing Trump but hey I would not expect someone that liked Trump to notice that small detail. (I am not saying that everyone that does not like it is because of the knock on Trump)

  • kb272930
    kb272930 Posts: 62
    I don't like politicians in general . All hypocrites . I love Pearl Jam , this song not so much .
  • kaseylily
    kaseylily Michigan, USA Posts: 259
    Maybe someone should start a political thread.
    There's a lot of shit being spewed around on this one.
    Not that anyone cares of my opinion, but I like the new song.
    Catchy ..and I'm excited for more new stuff!  

  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    Cool, so we all agree that the song is pretty good and that Trump is a joke and Hilary was a great lawyer. I’m glad we could all finally put our differences aside so we could focus on the music. 
    Happy Monday everyone!!
  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    OMG!! The amount of critics in this community is laughable! The song rocks! If you don’t think it does, keep it to yourself, don’t try to force it down anyone else’s throat, and write/recording a better song yourself! 

    The “doesn’t sound like 10” crap was old 20 years ago!! Lol.
    So you want to deny those of us who don't think the song rocks a place to voice our opinion, on the fan club message board? That's like me saying that those of you that do like it shouldn't try to force it down anyone's else's throat. 

    See how ridiculous that looks?


    NYPJ
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    "Yeah, but, Hillary..." is the weakest reason for supporting Trump. You had other choices on that ballot. We all did. Your hatred of Hillary doesn't change what Trump is now and didn't change what you knew him to be then.

    If you voted for Trump, you chose Trump.

    If you chose Trump, you own Trump.

    History is not going to be kind to those who enabled this President.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    JimmyV said:
    "Yeah, but, Hillary..." is the weakest reason for supporting Trump. You had other choices on that ballot. We all did. Your hatred of Hillary doesn't change what Trump is now and didn't change what you knew him to be then.

    If you voted for Trump, you chose Trump.

    If you chose Trump, you own Trump.

    History is not going to be kind to those who enabled this President.
    True but those who enabled this President go beyond just the people that voted for him. Hillary and the entire DNC are accountable. Liberals that have created this PC world that Trump supporters have rebelled against are accountable. Republican leaders that didn't take him seriously at the start of all this are accountable.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    JimmyV said:
    "Yeah, but, Hillary..." is the weakest reason for supporting Trump. You had other choices on that ballot. We all did. Your hatred of Hillary doesn't change what Trump is now and didn't change what you knew him to be then.

    If you voted for Trump, you chose Trump.

    If you chose Trump, you own Trump.

    History is not going to be kind to those who enabled this President.
    True but those who enabled this President go beyond just the people that voted for him. Hillary and the entire DNC are accountable. Liberals that have created this PC world that Trump supporters have rebelled against are accountable. Republican leaders that didn't take him seriously at the start of all this are accountable.
    Democrats and liberals absolutely played a role in creating the environment in which Trump won. It's true and I harp on it all the time.

    BUT...that will never, ever excuse someone for knowingly and willingly choosing to support Donald Trump.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    october22 said:
    It’s a protest song, not a camp fire sing along. It’s a delivery that expresses his frustration and anger with the racist biggot clown who stole and lied his way into the White House. It’s a great cadence for how pissed off we all are.
    Lol 

    How pissed off we all are? I'm not pissed. Millions of us aren't pissed. I will say that it has been sweet, sweet music watching all of you leftist maniacs wear pink hats and scream and cry into the air over nothing. Fake social justice outrage is annoying but hilarious. What was that women's march about? A wage gap that doesn't exist? Or pussies or something? I still haven't gotten an explanation. You have to love a women's march for social justice organized in large part by a conservative Muslim lol

    And what about Black Lives Matter? A movement that began under the proven-false "hands up, don't shoot" narrative that never actually happened. Or how about the violence of antifa? Why doesn't Pearl Jam write a song about the restricted speech on America's campuses?Because it's not trendy to speak the truth about all of this bullshit and call it out for what it is, that's why.

    I've disagreed with Pearl Jam's politics for a long time, but I've always loved their music, including their political songs because the music and lyrics were great and they were actually about something real. It's sad to see them go from anti-war songs, personal songs about suicide or an actually case of police brutality, to generic social justice whining. Read the lyrics to CDM. It's a grown man bitching about nothing. It's pathetic and beneath the talents of this band. 
    my god. the last 8 years of the right pissing and moaning about the "muslim kenyan" has scrambled their fucking brains. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    "Yeah, but, Hillary..." is the weakest reason for supporting Trump. You had other choices on that ballot. We all did. Your hatred of Hillary doesn't change what Trump is now and didn't change what you knew him to be then.

    If you voted for Trump, you chose Trump.

    If you chose Trump, you own Trump.

    History is not going to be kind to those who enabled this President.
    True but those who enabled this President go beyond just the people that voted for him. Hillary and the entire DNC are accountable. Liberals that have created this PC world that Trump supporters have rebelled against are accountable. Republican leaders that didn't take him seriously at the start of all this are accountable.
    Democrats and liberals absolutely played a role in creating the environment in which Trump won. It's true and I harp on it all the time.

    BUT...that will never, ever excuse someone for knowingly and willingly choosing to support Donald Trump.

    I dunno. Many people were manipulated or bought into the crazy notion that he's a good businessman. If they can see their mistake now, I'm not going to hold it against them. It's the people that still think his presidency is good that are inexcusable.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    JimmyV said:
    JimmyV said:
    "Yeah, but, Hillary..." is the weakest reason for supporting Trump. You had other choices on that ballot. We all did. Your hatred of Hillary doesn't change what Trump is now and didn't change what you knew him to be then.

    If you voted for Trump, you chose Trump.

    If you chose Trump, you own Trump.

    History is not going to be kind to those who enabled this President.
    True but those who enabled this President go beyond just the people that voted for him. Hillary and the entire DNC are accountable. Liberals that have created this PC world that Trump supporters have rebelled against are accountable. Republican leaders that didn't take him seriously at the start of all this are accountable.
    Democrats and liberals absolutely played a role in creating the environment in which Trump won. It's true and I harp on it all the time.

    BUT...that will never, ever excuse someone for knowingly and willingly choosing to support Donald Trump.

    I dunno. Many people were manipulated or bought into the crazy notion that he's a good businessman. If they can see their mistake now, I'm not going to hold it against them. It's the people that still think his presidency is good that are inexcusable.
    How many times has he declared bankruptcy? He's not a good businessman and he never has been. No one gets to pretend now they got fooled then. They didn't. They chose to believe casting a ballot for a wildly unqualified candidate would have no repercussions. They were incredibly wrong, but just admitting their "mistake" now doesn't undo the damage they did with that vote.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    I hope this song (and album?) lose some of the whiny fan base. kind of like No Code did with a lot of the casual fans in the 90’s.