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2023 Degenerate Fantasy Baseball League

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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
     Just wanna make sure we set it the way we all want

    Wanna hear from all on these or any other questions
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    Sure thing.
    I like crediting Walks.  Getting on base is one of the most important things (if not THE most important) and Hits or Average does not measure the contributions that patient hitters provide.
    I do know many who things Walks are crap.  :lol:

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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
     I’d be open to that

    Walks vs. OBP?
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    If OBP is in, HIts should be out, right?

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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
    Pros and cons probably

    I am no professor of baseball stats

    i just like hashing it out


    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    You just like hash

    ;)
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
     
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    Wins (W), Complete Games (CG), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)Swap out CG's for quality Starts.  Nobody pitches complete games now.Minimum innings at 18?  That forces you to have 2 starters pretty much.
    Roster Positions:C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
    Batters Stat Categories:Runs (R), Hits (H), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Walks (BB)
    Pitchers Stat Categories
    Not sure what that IF is?  Lineup is 9 or 10 batters?

    How many swaps can you do a week/season?

    Make everyone have 2 catchers?  Wouldn't that be interesting?  

    Love having BB for batters.


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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    I used to roll 2 catchers in the league I have run for 25 years or so.  Everyone bitched for so long I finally agreed to move to 1 C.  I loved having 2 C.

    Open for Min innings being 18.
    CG is a tough thing but they do happen.  We could remove and put Quality Starts, I dont see any reason that would not work well.

    IF is any infielder.  Allows you another 1B or big hitter.
    11 hitters.
    I usually play with 10 man league, if we go 12 we might want to take away the IF and make it 10.  (I always like more, allows for people to pick deeply)

    You can change your lineup daily.  (Or press a button and Yahoo will do the week for you)
    Unlimited trades up until the trade deadline.
    38 is the max # of additions. 
    If a person makes it to the playoffs with their team by making very few moves I guess they can still stream (and thereby fuck up the entire season for people who play correctly) but with injuries, draft misses, and unpredictable performances I think we do need to have a good number of moves available. 

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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
     Sounds good

    Wouldn’t we either wins or QS and not both?
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    I think they are different but am open.  There are certain stats that benefit from being on better clubs, but they still are good ones to count.  (I think, at least)
    Runs is another one.  You can get on base, but do you hit in front of good hitters to drive you in?
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
     #hash!
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    I think they are different but am open.  There are certain stats that benefit from being on better clubs, but they still are good ones to count.  (I think, at least)
    Runs is another one.  You can get on base, but do you hit in front of good hitters to drive you in?
    ed243421 said:
     Sounds good

    Wouldn’t we either wins or QS and not both?
    Leave QS and Wins.

    Leave runs too.  
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
    Why both wins and QS?
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
     Should a pitcher who throws 6.2 innings and gives up 6 runs, but their team scores 11, get the same result as a pitcher who throws 8 innings of 2 run ball and their team scores 1?
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    OK, set up a Yahoo with the basic outlines above...we can always tweak.  Added 2nd catcher as well.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    PM me with email address and I can send invitation
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    maynardsuxmaynardsux Posts: 1,086
    are we doing same fee and payout as usual?  Not liking that 2 catcher option, such a weak position for counting stats, rather see another roster spot filled by pitching.....let me know draft day brothers, thanks
    '93 Toronto
    '94 Detroit
    '10 Columbus
    '11 Detroit (Eddie solo), Toronto 1 and 2, Ottawa, Hamilton
    '13 London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    '14 Detroit
    '16 Ottawa, Toronto 1 and 2, Chicago 1 and 2
    '18 Chicago 1 and 2
    '22 Hamilton, Toronto
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    mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,181
    edited February 2019
    are we doing same fee and payout as usual?  Not liking that 2 catcher option, such a weak position for counting stats, rather see another roster spot filled by pitching.....let me know draft day brothers, thanks
    Not a fan of 2 catchers either.  Makes for a lot of garbage starting in a 12 team league and leaving 6 teams with no legitimate backup option.
    Post edited by mookieblalock on
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    Good input, we can drop catcher and add INF back, or another position...can make changes up until draft day 

    Payout question every year is if we pay for 3rd place or not.
    I always vote Winner Take All but most don't agree.  
    We can split up the pot however people like 
    $25 entry.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    are we doing same fee and payout as usual?  Not liking that 2 catcher option, such a weak position for counting stats, rather see another roster spot filled by pitching.....let me know draft day brothers, thanks
    Not a fan of 2 catchers either.  Makes for a lot of garbage starting in a 12 team league and leaving 6 teams with no legitimate backup option.
    All the years I played with 2c I don't recall anyone ever carrying 3c so they would have a backup.
    Interesting.
    We needed up getting rid as people just didn't like catchers beyond too 10 or so.
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    Pay first and last.

    If you are stinking it up that bad you deserve a prize!
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
     B

    how bout

    runs
    total bases
    hr
    rbi
    walks Or OBP
    sb

    ??

    I like total bases more than hits (hash not included)

    hits seems to equalize singles, doubles, and triples

    thoughts?
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    ed243421 said:
     B

    how bout

    runs
    total bases
    hr
    rbi
    walks Or OBP
    sb

    ??

    I like total bases more than hits (hash not included)

    hits seems to equalize singles, doubles, and triples

    thoughts?
    I'd go for this and drop the AVG.

    Leave Walks in there though.
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    How it sits, now:

    Roster Positions: C, C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, IF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
    Batters Stat Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Walks (BB), Batting Average (AVG)
    Pitchers Stat Categories: Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP), Quality Starts (QS)


    Been requested to remove the 2nd C, which I can do.
    I would like to add in another hitter -- INF is preferred...

    So, swap average out for total bases? 
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    I'd prefer another Util rather than Inf.  You can do more w that.

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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,640
    Just hashing it out

    what do you think?
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    All good suggestions.  We already have a UTIL, which is why I liked an INF inclusion.  Roster makeup is part of the fun, right?  Making it wide open with multiple UTIL also messes with the draft a bit....people take best available more than strategic placement to fill the roster.
    Argument could be made that any IF or UTIL messes with the draft.

    Can continue to #hash it out, see what others think.
    I sent the login in message to a handful that I know wanted in yesterday, happy to send to others as we get confirmation they are back.
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    nuzzer1nuzzer1 New Jersey Posts: 1,432
    How about MI, CI in lieu of INF? Or has that been suggested?
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,798
    Hi.  I think that does certainly make it more strategic, but perhaps too much so?
    Also IN is 1 guy, if we do the other we have 2 more hitters.  (Not that I would be against that)
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