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Billy Graham (1918-2018)

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/21/obituaries/billy-graham-dead.html

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1995- New Orleans, LA  : New Orleans, LA

1996- Charleston, SC

1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

2006- Cincinnati, OH

2008- Columbia, SC

2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

2010- Bristow, VA

2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

2012- Atlanta, GA

2013- Charlotte, NC

2014- Cincinnati, OH

2015- New York, NY

2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

2020- Nashville, TN 

2022- Smashville 

2023- Austin, TX x2

2024- Baltimore

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,028
    Even though I admired his passion, I never bought into the message.  He was a complex man.  He supported the escalation of the War in Vietnam but later on supported military disarmament.  Earlier on he was an anti-feminist but at the same time he plead for giving attention to AIDS, poverty and environmental concerns.  Imagine what he could have done with his energy and passion if he had focused more on the issues like waging peace and helping environment.  If only.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    His positions changed frequently because he followed the Profit rather than the Prophet.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    of all of the televangelists, I think he was one of the only ones with a somewhat liberal view point on some issues. Plus, I'm not sure he ever had a scandal. Even before the sex scandals in the 80s, Graham was never alone with any woman other than his wife. He also didn't take the donations of his church for a personal salary. He is one of the few that earned the respect of a nation.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    He was the last of the "decent" televangelists. His son sure is a prick. Too bad Billy didn't spend more time raising his son to be an honorable man. Oh well, ashes to ashes and all of that.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,028
    jeffbr said:
    He was the last of the "decent" televangelists. His son sure is a prick. Too bad Billy didn't spend more time raising his son to be an honorable man. Oh well, ashes to ashes and all of that.
    I didn't know that about his son.  What a shame. 

    Even though I never bought the evangelism thing, Graham seemed like a decent guy among a pack of evangelical wolves.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    brianlux said:
    jeffbr said:
    He was the last of the "decent" televangelists. His son sure is a prick. Too bad Billy didn't spend more time raising his son to be an honorable man. Oh well, ashes to ashes and all of that.
    I didn't know that about his son.  What a shame. 

    Even though I never bought the evangelism thing, Graham seemed like a decent guy among a pack of evangelical wolves.
    Yeah, his son Franklin is a preacher, but the super-obnoxious kind. Hates Muslims, hates gays, is a Birther conspiracy theorist, see the Second Coming and Armageddon in natural disasters, etc... The Fox News crowd love him, though.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I heard one of his sermons from the early 70s. He was talking about how Jesus was a human. He was from a land that touched Africa, asia, and Europe. He said Jesus wasn't a white man, he wasn't a black man. He was a man with brown skin. But most of all, he was a man for everyone. 

    As someone who does not believe in a god and thinks religion is the cause of most of the world's problems, I like how he preached. 
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    RIP...99...that’s a damn good life.

    its too bad that sometimes a thread announcing the passing of someone can not just be left for condolences ... people can talk about religion and politics when his funeral is over...flame away...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Meltdown99 said:
    RIP...99...that’s a damn good life.

    its too bad that sometimes a thread announcing the passing of someone can not just be left for condolences ... people can talk about religion and politics when his funeral is over...flame away...
    If that is your desire, AET would be the appropriate place for this thread.
    This is the debate forum.
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    edited February 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    RIP...99...that’s a damn good life.

    its too bad that sometimes a thread announcing the passing of someone can not just be left for condolences ... people can talk about religion and politics when his funeral is over...flame away...
    I don't see where anyone has said a bad word about him. His life was religion. How can you expect that not to be mentioned. As far as politics, Graham purposely wanted to keep region out of politics. But regrets not taking a more vocal stand for the civil rights movement. 


    Edit: I didn't see gambs post, which is negative. But everyone is allowed their opinion. 

    Post edited by Degeneratefk on
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    I am fairly confident that the OP posted this thread here to generate debate and not to eulogize Graham. 
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    Hail Satan.
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  • riley540riley540 Posts: 1,132
    I appreciate people that can spread the love that is the word of god. I’m not religious, but find a lot of beauty in it as a spectator. Lots of crappy religious people. This guy was alright in my book. Rest easy!!
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    rgambs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    RIP...99...that’s a damn good life.

    its too bad that sometimes a thread announcing the passing of someone can not just be left for condolences ... people can talk about religion and politics when his funeral is over...flame away...
    If that is your desire, AET would be the appropriate place for this thread.
    This is the debate forum.
    That’s true ... fair enough.   
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i thought he died years ago.

    i'm not going to bash him, but anybody who becomes rich or famous preaching the reported word of god is still a sinner. rich man going to heaven, camel going through eye of needle, all that jazz.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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