'The Home Shows' X 'The Away Shows'

sunvalleylaw

So I want to go to Missoula.  I was there in 2012, and it will be the easiest one to get to and take my kid.  I would love to be up in the front GA. Looks like there is an option to enter for both GA (two sections in Missoula, one front, one back) and reserved, 100 level most likely.  You can enter for both but will be picked to buy just one set of 2 tix.  At least by my read.  Any suggestions?  I was just thinking I would enter for both and hope to get the best set I can.  

PJNB

sunvalleylaw said:

So I want to go to Missoula.  I was there in 2012, and it will be the easiest one to get to and take my kid.  I would love to be up in the front GA. Looks like there is an option to enter for both GA (two sections in Missoula, one front, one back) and reserved, 100 level most likely.  You can enter for both but will be picked to buy just one set of 2 tix.  At least by my read.  Any suggestions?  I was just thinking I would enter for both and hope to get the best set I can.  

GA is two sections but the front section is 10 club only and the only one that will be available on the draw. If you are bringing your kid I think that is awesome but unless you have rail they will not see a thing and maybe seats would be a better option. That or sit at the back of the 10 club GA and have some room to see. 

Lerxst1992

Is there a current odds topic yet?

PJNB

Lerxst1992 said:

Is there a current odds topic yet?

Maybe combine it with the strategy topic? Pretty much go together. 

sunvalleylaw

PJNB said:

sunvalleylaw said:

So I want to go to Missoula.  I was there in 2012, and it will be the easiest one to get to and take my kid.  I would love to be up in the front GA. Looks like there is an option to enter for both GA (two sections in Missoula, one front, one back) and reserved, 100 level most likely.  You can enter for both but will be picked to buy just one set of 2 tix.  At least by my read.  Any suggestions?  I was just thinking I would enter for both and hope to get the best set I can.  

GA is two sections but the front section is 10 club only and the only one that will be available on the draw. If you are bringing your kid I think that is awesome but unless you have rail they will not see a thing and maybe seats would be a better option. That or sit at the back of the 10 club GA and have some room to see. 

Thanks.  My kid turns 18 tomorrow and we were fine rushing up to the "Pier" stage at the Gorge for the Foos a couple years ago.  He will want to try for that again, and if we are a bit back, we can deal.  We did that, in the crowd, for Wilco a couple years ago at SV also.  We could still see Nels playing just fine.   So, I entered for GA first, reserved second.  I just didn't want to be in the second GA section.  Way pricier than the Fieldhouse in 2012!  But it will be worth it. 

YourDirtisMyfood

That was easy.  Thanks 10C.  Fingers crossed now on securing tickets.

mattsavard

Went very smoothly... thanks guys! 
CHI N1 GA > CHI N1 RES > CHI N2 GA > CHI N2 RES in that order. Fingers crossed! 

varty yo

Hmmm i think i entered. Filled out info and hit submit. No confirmation email or anything saying so

lfitzpatrick9

So If I have three choices to enter say Boston night 1, Boston night 2 and then Seattle Night 2 can I cancel one of them or two of them once the odds go down/ I just dont want to win 3 and then have to pay 800 bucks and only to be able to sell one ticket :(  Please help.... I am new to the lottery

jeffbr

lfitzpatrick9 said:

So If I have three choices to enter say Boston night 1, Boston night 2 and then Seattle Night 2 can I cancel one of them or two of them once the odds go down/ I just dont want to win 3 and then have to pay 800 bucks and only to be able to sell one ticket :(  Please help.... I am new to the lottery

Yup. You can cancel anytime before the drawing is held.

lfitzpatrick9

jeffbr said:

lfitzpatrick9 said:

So If I have three choices to enter say Boston night 1, Boston night 2 and then Seattle Night 2 can I cancel one of them or two of them once the odds go down/ I just dont want to win 3 and then have to pay 800 bucks and only to be able to sell one ticket :(  Please help.... I am new to the lottery

Yup. You can cancel anytime before the drawing is held.

Wouldnt cancelling effect the final drawing though since I am sure it starts over if you submit later?  No?

twmills

lfitzpatrick9 said:

jeffbr said:

lfitzpatrick9 said:

So If I have three choices to enter say Boston night 1, Boston night 2 and then Seattle Night 2 can I cancel one of them or two of them once the odds go down/ I just dont want to win 3 and then have to pay 800 bucks and only to be able to sell one ticket :(  Please help.... I am new to the lottery

Yup. You can cancel anytime before the drawing is held.

Wouldnt cancelling effect the final drawing though since I am sure it starts over if you submit later?  No?

I don' think it matters when you submit your order. Just as long as you do so before Monday. So if you cancel to rerank, it shouldn't effect your chances.

Sprunkn7

I know they charge $ 1 to the card but say I put in for 4 shows, like Chi1 GA, Chi2 GA, CHi1 Res , Chi 2 Res.  Do they put a hold on the total amount on my cc?  All 4 shows even though I can only win 2?

I'm asking be/c it says they check to see if you have the funds in there.

Ricsard

I would like to go to both shows to Seattle. 
I am a little bit confused. 
 I need only a pair of tickets to both shows by all means, I can accept either type.
Can I add Seattle 1 reserved + GA + Seattle 2 reserved + GA?
Or should I choose only one option in both cases?

PJNB

Ricsard said:

I would like to go to both shows to Seattle. 
I am a little bit confused. 
 I need only a pair of tickets to both shows by all means, I can accept either type.
Can I add Seattle 1 reserved + GA + Seattle 2 reserved + GA?
Or should I choose only one option in both cases?

Put in for all 4 picks for Seattle. You can only win 1 pair per show anyway. Most people put GA first since those are going to be the harder tickets to get but if reserved odds drop down a lot and you just want to get in the building put them first and you will have a lot better odds. 

Ricsard

PJNB said:

Ricsard said:

I would like to go to both shows to Seattle. 
I am a little bit confused. 
 I need only a pair of tickets to both shows by all means, I can accept either type.
Can I add Seattle 1 reserved + GA + Seattle 2 reserved + GA?
Or should I choose only one option in both cases?

Put in for all 4 picks for Seattle. You can only win 1 pair per show anyway. Most people put GA first since those are going to be the harder tickets to get but if reserved odds drop down a lot and you just want to get in the building put them first and you will have a lot better odds. 

Thanks mate for the comprehensive answer and advice!!! Cheers

mattsavard

PJNB said:

 Most people put GA first since those are going to be the harder tickets to get but if reserved odds drop down a lot and you just want to get in the building put them first and you will have a lot better odds. 

Huh... do we have any confirmation/details anywhere about how the algorythm works? 

So you're saying if I put Reserved as my 2nd choice, and whiff on first choice of GA, I have a lower chance of getting in the building via Reserved ticket, than if I had put Reserved 1st? That somehow doesn't seem right... but If it's been shown to be the case I'd love to know that for sure. 

PJNB

mattsavard said:

PJNB said:

 Most people put GA first since those are going to be the harder tickets to get but if reserved odds drop down a lot and you just want to get in the building put them first and you will have a lot better odds. 

Huh... do we have any confirmation/details anywhere about how the algorythm works? 

So you're saying if I put Reserved as my 2nd choice, and whiff on first choice of GA, I have a lower chance of getting in the building via Reserved ticket, than if I had put Reserved 1st? That somehow doesn't seem right... but If it's been shown to be the case I'd love to know that for sure. 

Yes you will have worse odds if you have reserved as second choice  compared those that have reserved as first choice. This is how it works. All numbers I am using are for examples only.

Lets say there are 10000 GA tickets available. That means since they are sold in pairs only 5000 people can get this as a win. The way they do the draw is they start with 1 city. Lets say Seattle. Lets also say 7500 people put in for GA Night 1 making the odds 5000/7500 = 66.6% which is what we would see on the odds page. Of those 7500 people that put in for it, 4500 put it in as their first pick, 2000 as a second pick, and 1000 as a third. First picks are drawn. Since there is 5000 people that can win tickets and only 4500 people put it in as a first pick they all won their GA picks. So there odds where not 66% but in fact 100%. Now there are 500 spots left so the draw carries over to second priorities. 500/2000 = 25% chance of winning. Once the second draw ends and 500 people get selected it does not carry over to the third round since there are no tickets left to draw for making there true odds 0%.

GA is always done first. Now we do reserved. You now have to factor in all of the people that won GA as there first picks and are now ineligible for the reserved draw making your reserved odds even better then shown.  Also you put it in the first couple picks instead of 3rd and 4th with GA in front of it you are going to be pretty much guaranteed to win your reserved since you are going to be among the first people drawn. It is a gamble to GA first usually but with 10 club securing more seats then ever it may be worth the gamble this time around. Just watch the reserved odds and if they drop a lot(I do not expect this to happen) and you just want to get in the building and not worry about ticketmaster put them up front.

Jbarker

Good job PJNB

trees

Put in for Chicago for GA on august 18th and 20th 3rd choice seating 18th 4th choice seating on the 20th for Amanda and me hope everyone gets thiers as well good luck jamly