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I think I got some emails about thatHalifax2TheMax said:Anyone remember Benghazi?0 -
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!0 -
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped.._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?0 -
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...www.myspace.com0 -
tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
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Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.0 -
Don't edit other people's posts. It's shitty and a violation of the policy. Perhaps you think you're clever. Oh wait.. I mean "your clever".Out of My Mind and Time said:tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?Post edited by Kat on0 -
Oh stop, let him have his fun.mrussel1 said:
Don't edit other people's posts. It's shitty and a violation of the policy. Perhaps you think you're clever. Oh wait.. I mean "your clever".Out of My Mind and Time said:tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:The Juggler said:mrussel1 said:The Juggler said:
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?Post edited by Kat on0 -
It seems he was denied bail for being a dick.
A Trump supporter who was seen sitting at the desk of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi during the U.S. Capitol riots has been denied bond. Judge Beryl Howell announced the ruling on Thursday (Jan. 28). Richard Barnett will remain behind bars in a federal prison pending trial, according to KNWA.
“This was not a peaceful protest. Hundreds of people came to Washington, D.C. to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power,” Judge Howell said during the hearing. “We’re still living here in Washington, D.C. with the consequences of the violence that this defendant is alleged to have participated in,” she added.
Barnett is facing several charges, including unlawfully entering a restricted area with a weapon, theft of public property and violent entry.
On Jan. 6, images of Barnett inside of Pelosi’s office went viral on social media. In one of the photos, he sat at her desk and had his feet propped up on her important documents. He also left a threatening note on one of her folders, which read, “WE WILL NOT BACK DOWN.”
After he left the Capitol building, the 60-year-old from Gravette, Arkansas was later seen outside holding an envelope that he had taken from Pelosi’s office. In a video, he bragged about taking the mail, but claims he didn’t steal it. “I left a quarter on her desk,” he told a news outlet.
The mayor of Gravette said Barnett’s actions have brought threats and unwanted attention to their small community. “It’s a shame something like this is what puts you in the public eye,” Mayor Kurt Maddox said. “This is not the city of Gravette. This one person is not who Gravette is and not who the people are.”
Barnett’s next court date is scheduled for Tuesday (Feb. 2) at 2 p.m. EST. If convicted, he faces more than 11 years in prison.
Capitol rioter who broke into Nancy Pelosi’s office denied bail - REVOLT
A DC federal judge admonished the Capitol rioter who was pictured smirking with his feet up on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s desk, repeatedly calling him “entitled” and questioning his intelligence, before she ordered him held without bail Thursday.
Chief Judge Beryl Howell laid into accused rioter Richard Barnett, calling his actions at the siege “brazen, entitled and dangerous” in a lengthy speech before handing down the ruling in the virtual court hearing.
Barnett allegedly stormed the Capitol with hundreds of other supporters of then-President Donald Trump, making it all the way to Pelosi’s office, where he lounged and left with a piece of her mail.
He then spoke to the media about what he did and admitted to law enforcement that he was inside the Capitol building during the riot.
Howell seethed that his conduct in the Capitol showed a “total disregard for the law … total disregard for the US Constitution,” as she agreed with prosecutors that Barnett could not be released before he faces a trial for the riot.
Howell highlighted that at the time of his arrest, Barnett told law enforcement that they wouldn’t find evidence linking him to the siege because he is “smart.”
“I don’t know how smart Mr. Barnett is, but he’s certainly a bragger. Bragging to law enforcement about what he’s done to cover his tracks … is not a smart thing to do,” she said.
Barnett, of Arkansas, faces up to more than a decade behind bars for his role in the riot. He’ll be tried in Washington, DC.
Judge orders Capitol rioter Richard Barnett held without bail (nypost.com)
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And an armed dick at that. Held in DC jail until his next court appearance scheduled for May 4th. Poor, poor guy. His attorneys plan to appeal the revocation of his previous bond of $5K and home confinement and his current held without bond status. Guess he wasn't too smart?
The 60-year-old Arkansas man is facing several charges, including theft, after posing for an infamous photo in Pelosi’s office and arming himself with a stun gun as a MAGA mob attacked the Capitol while Congress met to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. Barnett was one of the first of at least 300 people to be arrested for participating in the riots and is among the few to remain in jail.Dozens of rioters have been released pending trial, a result of lower-level offenses that federal judges have said are non-violent and therefore not worthy of detention. That fact seems to irk Barnett, who unloaded on Thursday about how “everyone else who did things much worse are already home” before accusing prosecutors of delaying his hearings.
“They can't keep pushing me out month by month!” he yelled, pleading that he does not want to remain in a D.C. prison for “another month” while others are “already home.”
Barnett’s outburst was futile. After a five-minute recess, his lawyers told the judge they intended to file a new bail motion. The judge said he would rule on whether to release Barnett after that is filed, then abruptly ending the hearing. His next court date is May 4.
Federal prosecutor Neama Rahman told The Daily Beast on Thursday that prosecutors prefer to keep accused criminals in custody pending trial but most of the Capitol riot participants have been released on bond because they’re not “a risk of flight or a danger to the community.”
But in Barnett’s case, he was seen carrying a weapon into the Capitol, so it could be argued that he is dangerous.
“The Magistrate Judge on his case originally wanted to place him on home confinement, but the Government appealed, and Chief District Judge Beryl Howell ruled that he was a danger to the community,” Rahman said in an email, adding that the judge “used to work in the Capitol on the Senate Judiciary Committee, so she may have been more offended by the assault than others.”
Prosecutors allege that during the Jan. 6 siege that forced lawmakers to hide for hours, Barnett was photographed carrying a stun gun and walking into Pelosi’s office. He posed for photographs sitting in Pelosi’s office with his feet propped on a desk, according to a criminal complaint.
Another photo shows Barnett, who previously described himself as a white nationalist who was prepared for a violent death, holding an envelope addressed to Pelosi. Once outside the Capitol, he appeared to brag about his behavior, all while still holding the personalized envelope he stole from Pelosi’s office.
‘It’s Not Fair!’: Rioter Who Posed in Pelosi’s Office Loses It in Court (thedailybeast.com)
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I'm still not sold on not giving him bail. We had this huge debate about bail reform and here is someone who can't get it.Halifax2TheMax said:And an armed dick at that. Held in DC jail until his next court appearance scheduled for May 4th. Poor, poor guy. His attorneys plan to appeal the revocation of his previous bond of $5K and home confinement and his current held without bond status. Guess he wasn't too smart?
The 60-year-old Arkansas man is facing several charges, including theft, after posing for an infamous photo in Pelosi’s office and arming himself with a stun gun as a MAGA mob attacked the Capitol while Congress met to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s victory. Barnett was one of the first of at least 300 people to be arrested for participating in the riots and is among the few to remain in jail.Dozens of rioters have been released pending trial, a result of lower-level offenses that federal judges have said are non-violent and therefore not worthy of detention. That fact seems to irk Barnett, who unloaded on Thursday about how “everyone else who did things much worse are already home” before accusing prosecutors of delaying his hearings.
“They can't keep pushing me out month by month!” he yelled, pleading that he does not want to remain in a D.C. prison for “another month” while others are “already home.”
Barnett’s outburst was futile. After a five-minute recess, his lawyers told the judge they intended to file a new bail motion. The judge said he would rule on whether to release Barnett after that is filed, then abruptly ending the hearing. His next court date is May 4.
Federal prosecutor Neama Rahman told The Daily Beast on Thursday that prosecutors prefer to keep accused criminals in custody pending trial but most of the Capitol riot participants have been released on bond because they’re not “a risk of flight or a danger to the community.”
But in Barnett’s case, he was seen carrying a weapon into the Capitol, so it could be argued that he is dangerous.
“The Magistrate Judge on his case originally wanted to place him on home confinement, but the Government appealed, and Chief District Judge Beryl Howell ruled that he was a danger to the community,” Rahman said in an email, adding that the judge “used to work in the Capitol on the Senate Judiciary Committee, so she may have been more offended by the assault than others.”
Prosecutors allege that during the Jan. 6 siege that forced lawmakers to hide for hours, Barnett was photographed carrying a stun gun and walking into Pelosi’s office. He posed for photographs sitting in Pelosi’s office with his feet propped on a desk, according to a criminal complaint.
Another photo shows Barnett, who previously described himself as a white nationalist who was prepared for a violent death, holding an envelope addressed to Pelosi. Once outside the Capitol, he appeared to brag about his behavior, all while still holding the personalized envelope he stole from Pelosi’s office.
‘It’s Not Fair!’: Rioter Who Posed in Pelosi’s Office Loses It in Court (thedailybeast.com)
Personally I would make him an Enemy Combatant. You can hold him for as long as you want and he doesn't get any Miranda rights. I would have no problem with that.0 -
But there are plenty of reasons for them to have a "hard on" for him. I do not understand your point. So, because other politicians don't have clean backgrounds, Trump should get a pass? Nobody should be above the law.tempo_n_groove said:
Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.
He has a long and sordid history of bending and breaking the rules/laws and it might just finally be catching up to him. This investigation is in his home state because that is also where his business is located. Incidentally, it is also where his fraudulent charity organization was located before it was forced to shut down. Oh, also, it was where his fraudulent university was located before it was forced to shut down.
How many politicians do you know have refused to release their tax returns?
Why do you think Trump is the only president since Nixon to not release his?
Do you think it might have something to do with what they are investigating?
Equating Trump to other politicians in regards to corruption is comical.
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Add the fact as a "legitimate" billionaire, POOTWH has 600+ shell companies and ran the NYC ice rinks as cash only businesses. While its not illegal to do either of those things, why is he? To what end? POOTWH may very well be involved in money laundering, tax evasion and tax and insurance fraud. Releasing his tax returns will show that he hasn't given shit to charity and may not be as wealthy as he claims. I think he's heavily leveraged and comprised, and as such, is a criminal.The Juggler said:
I do not understand your point. So, because other politicians don't have clean backgrounds, Trump should get a pass? Nobody should be above the law.tempo_n_groove said:
Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.
He has a long and sordid history of bending and breaking the rules/laws and it might just finally be catching up to him. This investigation is in his homeostat because that is also where his business is located. Incidentally, it is also where his fraudulent charity organization was located before it was forced to shut down. Oh, also, it was where his fraudulent university was located before it was forced to shut down.
How many politicians do you know have refused to release their tax returns?
Why do you think Trump is the only president since Nixon to not release his?
Do you think it might have something to do with what they are investigating?
Equating Trump to other politicians in regards to corruption is comical.
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1- Nixon, like you said. I know Howard Stern dropped out of the Governors race because he didn't want to reveal his holdings.The Juggler said:
But there are plenty of reasons for them to have a "hard on" for him. I do not understand your point. So, because other politicians don't have clean backgrounds, Trump should get a pass? Nobody should be above the law.tempo_n_groove said:
Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.
He has a long and sordid history of bending and breaking the rules/laws and it might just finally be catching up to him. This investigation is in his home state because that is also where his business is located. Incidentally, it is also where his fraudulent charity organization was located before it was forced to shut down. Oh, also, it was where his fraudulent university was located before it was forced to shut down.
How many politicians do you know have refused to release their tax returns?
Why do you think Trump is the only president since Nixon to not release his?
Do you think it might have something to do with what they are investigating?
Equating Trump to other politicians in regards to corruption is comical.
2-Trump didn't release them because I don't think he is really a billionaire or that he has a ton of shell companies but not sure how that would come up in the taxes?
3- I'm pretty sure when they investigated under impeachment they found everything they needed to know to go this route.
4-Trump is comical, yes. NY definitely has it out for anything Trump. I never equated Trump to anyone, I just mentioned that everyone is dirty. You are putting words in my mouth.
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I agree with this except the charities thing. Doesn't it help on your returns if you are charitable?Halifax2TheMax said:
Add the fact as a "legitimate" billionaire, POOTWH has 600+ shell companies and ran the NYC ice rinks as cash only businesses. While its not illegal to do either of those things, why is he? To what end? POOTWH may very well be involved in money laundering, tax evasion and tax and insurance fraud. Releasing his tax returns will show that he hasn't given shit to charity and may not be as wealthy as he claims. I think he's heavily leveraged and comprised, and as such, is a criminal.The Juggler said:
I do not understand your point. So, because other politicians don't have clean backgrounds, Trump should get a pass? Nobody should be above the law.tempo_n_groove said:
Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.
He has a long and sordid history of bending and breaking the rules/laws and it might just finally be catching up to him. This investigation is in his homeostat because that is also where his business is located. Incidentally, it is also where his fraudulent charity organization was located before it was forced to shut down. Oh, also, it was where his fraudulent university was located before it was forced to shut down.
How many politicians do you know have refused to release their tax returns?
Why do you think Trump is the only president since Nixon to not release his?
Do you think it might have something to do with what they are investigating?
Equating Trump to other politicians in regards to corruption is comical.
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Right. He is the only president since Nixon to not release them, despite saying he would. There is likely a reason more cynical than just not being a billionaire. So then you look at the fraud that he's already committed among other things and it's not hard to put two and two together.tempo_n_groove said:
1- Nixon, like you said. I know Howard Stern dropped out of the Governors race because he didn't want to reveal his holdings.The Juggler said:
But there are plenty of reasons for them to have a "hard on" for him. I do not understand your point. So, because other politicians don't have clean backgrounds, Trump should get a pass? Nobody should be above the law.tempo_n_groove said:
Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.
He has a long and sordid history of bending and breaking the rules/laws and it might just finally be catching up to him. This investigation is in his home state because that is also where his business is located. Incidentally, it is also where his fraudulent charity organization was located before it was forced to shut down. Oh, also, it was where his fraudulent university was located before it was forced to shut down.
How many politicians do you know have refused to release their tax returns?
Why do you think Trump is the only president since Nixon to not release his?
Do you think it might have something to do with what they are investigating?
Equating Trump to other politicians in regards to corruption is comical.
2-Trump didn't release them because I don't think he is really a billionaire or that he has a ton of shell companies but not sure how that would come up in the taxes?
3- I'm pretty sure when they investigated under impeachment they found everything they needed to know to go this route.
4-Trump is comical, yes. NY definitely has it out for anything Trump. I never equated Trump to anyone, I just mentioned that everyone is dirty. You are putting words in my mouth.
Regarding impeachment, they most certainly did not go this route. Not following the money (I believe Rosenstein limited their scope) was one of the biggest disappointments of the Mueller investigation.
So they have it out for him for good reason. He's likely the most corrupt politician this country has ever seen.
Also, no. Not everyone is dirty.www.myspace.com0 -
His own charity foundation was forced to shutter because he was dipping into his own charity funds. Why would some sleaze ball like that donate to an actual charity foundation?tempo_n_groove said:
I agree with this except the charities thing. Doesn't it help on your returns if you are charitable?Halifax2TheMax said:
Add the fact as a "legitimate" billionaire, POOTWH has 600+ shell companies and ran the NYC ice rinks as cash only businesses. While its not illegal to do either of those things, why is he? To what end? POOTWH may very well be involved in money laundering, tax evasion and tax and insurance fraud. Releasing his tax returns will show that he hasn't given shit to charity and may not be as wealthy as he claims. I think he's heavily leveraged and comprised, and as such, is a criminal.The Juggler said:
I do not understand your point. So, because other politicians don't have clean backgrounds, Trump should get a pass? Nobody should be above the law.tempo_n_groove said:
Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.
He has a long and sordid history of bending and breaking the rules/laws and it might just finally be catching up to him. This investigation is in his homeostat because that is also where his business is located. Incidentally, it is also where his fraudulent charity organization was located before it was forced to shut down. Oh, also, it was where his fraudulent university was located before it was forced to shut down.
How many politicians do you know have refused to release their tax returns?
Why do you think Trump is the only president since Nixon to not release his?
Do you think it might have something to do with what they are investigating?
Equating Trump to other politicians in regards to corruption is comical.
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He is double dipping!The Juggler said:
His own charity foundation was forced to shutter because he was dipping into his own charity funds. Why would some sleaze ball like that donate to an actual charity foundation?tempo_n_groove said:
I agree with this except the charities thing. Doesn't it help on your returns if you are charitable?Halifax2TheMax said:
Add the fact as a "legitimate" billionaire, POOTWH has 600+ shell companies and ran the NYC ice rinks as cash only businesses. While its not illegal to do either of those things, why is he? To what end? POOTWH may very well be involved in money laundering, tax evasion and tax and insurance fraud. Releasing his tax returns will show that he hasn't given shit to charity and may not be as wealthy as he claims. I think he's heavily leveraged and comprised, and as such, is a criminal.The Juggler said:
I do not understand your point. So, because other politicians don't have clean backgrounds, Trump should get a pass? Nobody should be above the law.tempo_n_groove said:
Where Trump lived too which kind of proves my point.The Juggler said:
Well that is where he has lived his entire life up until recently. Seems as if GA also has a stiffy for him as well.tempo_n_groove said:
NY has an absolute hard on for anything Trump.mickeyrat said:
not from state charges......tempo_n_groove said:
He was pardoned though. I don't see how he gets prosecuted? That is how shit works. You go to bat for the president, you get caught then you get pardoned.The Juggler said:
Couple news bulletins today. Don was deposed for defrauding Inauguration funds and Bannon's investigation is heating up in NYC.mrussel1 said:
? Can you elaborate?The Juggler said:Don Jr and Steve Bannon.......COME ON DOWN!!!fed charges were effectively dropped..
Would it set a precedent if he gets convicted?
Perhaps if he didn't spend his life skirting the laws, he wouldn't have anything to worry about...
I don't think any politician living today has a clean background.
He has a long and sordid history of bending and breaking the rules/laws and it might just finally be catching up to him. This investigation is in his homeostat because that is also where his business is located. Incidentally, it is also where his fraudulent charity organization was located before it was forced to shut down. Oh, also, it was where his fraudulent university was located before it was forced to shut down.
How many politicians do you know have refused to release their tax returns?
Why do you think Trump is the only president since Nixon to not release his?
Do you think it might have something to do with what they are investigating?
Equating Trump to other politicians in regards to corruption is comical.
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