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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,082
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    You’re still backing the guy who couldn’t come up with a new party platform four years later and you’re criticizing Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden? Still digging coal, professor? Or all those FoxCON inspired manufacturing jobs. Talk about intellectual dishonesty.
    Who needs a new party platform? The current one is fine. 
    Good to know that you’re fine with a party platform that resulted in 215,000+ American deaths, many of which could have been avoided, the highest unemployment rate since the Great Recession and the slowest economic growth since Obama left office and never did produce the 4% GDP growth, quarter over quarter, year over year, to pay for that tax cut. Yea, nothing’s changed in four years. 
    The party platform resulted in 215,000+ American deaths?! 
  • mrussel1 said:
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
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  • BS44325 said:
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    You’re still backing the guy who couldn’t come up with a new party platform four years later and you’re criticizing Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden? Still digging coal, professor? Or all those FoxCON inspired manufacturing jobs. Talk about intellectual dishonesty.
    Who needs a new party platform? The current one is fine. 
    Good to know that you’re fine with a party platform that resulted in 215,000+ American deaths, many of which could have been avoided, the highest unemployment rate since the Great Recession and the slowest economic growth since Obama left office and never did produce the 4% GDP growth, quarter over quarter, year over year, to pay for that tax cut. Yea, nothing’s changed in four years. 
    The party platform resulted in 215,000+ American deaths?! 
    It certainly didn’t do a damn thing to address it.
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    BS44325 said:
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    He is an embarrassment and a vile human being. I said that when he ran against Hillary. You make it sound like you’re telling me something i just don’t comprehend. What I am telling you is that he is necessary. That has not changed. And it’s not surprising that a “connected Maine political family” disagrees. This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Yeah, who is it for?  I'm the "job creator".  I'm the one propagating the youth of America.  My brother in law is the one training the next generation of military leaders.  So who's it for? Is it for someone more important than me?  Someone who generates more economic activity?  Is that the Trump voter?  I don't fucking think so.  You say it's necessary.  Why is it necessary?  What did he correct in his four years?  Trade?  North Korea? Iran? Deficit?  Debt? What issue is in better position today than four years ago?  Not fucking one.  His presidency has been a sick joke.  
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
  • BS44325 said:
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    More hilarious than the Woodward tapes.
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    He is an embarrassment and a vile human being. I said that when he ran against Hillary. You make it sound like you’re telling me something i just don’t comprehend. What I am telling you is that he is necessary. That has not changed. And it’s not surprising that a “connected Maine political family” disagrees. This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Yeah, who is it for?  I'm the "job creator".  I'm the one propagating the youth of America.  My brother in law is the one training the next generation of military leaders.  So who's it for? Is it for someone more important than me?  Someone who generates more economic activity?  Is that the Trump voter?  I don't fucking think so.  You say it's necessary.  Why is it necessary?  What did he correct in his four years?  Trade?  North Korea? Iran? Deficit?  Debt? What issue is in better position today than four years ago?  Not fucking one.  His presidency has been a sick joke.  
    Careful. Cons don’t like too many questions all at once. Particularly ones they can’t answer. What’s the quote? “Shhhhh, slow and steady?” Better to ask one at a time and be mindful of the number that you ask.
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    He is an embarrassment and a vile human being. I said that when he ran against Hillary. You make it sound like you’re telling me something i just don’t comprehend. What I am telling you is that he is necessary. That has not changed. And it’s not surprising that a “connected Maine political family” disagrees. This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Yeah, who is it for?  I'm the "job creator".  I'm the one propagating the youth of America.  My brother in law is the one training the next generation of military leaders.  So who's it for? Is it for someone more important than me?  Someone who generates more economic activity?  Is that the Trump voter?  I don't fucking think so.  You say it's necessary.  Why is it necessary?  What did he correct in his four years?  Trade?  North Korea? Iran? Deficit?  Debt? What issue is in better position today than four years ago?  Not fucking one.  His presidency has been a sick joke.  
    You don’t like peace in the middle east?
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    He is an embarrassment and a vile human being. I said that when he ran against Hillary. You make it sound like you’re telling me something i just don’t comprehend. What I am telling you is that he is necessary. That has not changed. And it’s not surprising that a “connected Maine political family” disagrees. This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Yeah, who is it for?  I'm the "job creator".  I'm the one propagating the youth of America.  My brother in law is the one training the next generation of military leaders.  So who's it for? Is it for someone more important than me?  Someone who generates more economic activity?  Is that the Trump voter?  I don't fucking think so.  You say it's necessary.  Why is it necessary?  What did he correct in his four years?  Trade?  North Korea? Iran? Deficit?  Debt? What issue is in better position today than four years ago?  Not fucking one.  His presidency has been a sick joke.  
    You don’t like peace in the middle east?
    There's no peace until Palestine and West Bank is solved.  And the Yemeni War ends.  And Iran stops enriching.  And Syria.  But right,  peace. 
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    I'm sorry, you must not understand America middle/suburbia.  If you think for one minute that women and mothers in this country are ambivalent about militias or people walking around the streets with AR's and camos, you're crazy.  And then suburban women hear about a plan by these idiots to abduct the female democratic governor?  Yeah, no.  It's not a wash for Trump.

    You're cherry picking polls a bit here.  I think it's tight, but Peters has a consistent lead.  You can throw out Trafalgar.  I generally think you can throw out any poll less than 1000 as well, so I don't know how useful any of these are.  

    Reuters/Ipsos10/7 - 10/13620 LV4.55244Peters +8
    NY Times/Siena*10/6 - 10/11614 LV4.64342Peters +1
    CBS News/YouGov10/6 - 10/91190 LV3.34744Peters +3
    Emerson10/6 - 10/7716 LV3.65141Peters +10
    CNBC/Change Research (D)10/2 - 10/4676 LV--5143Peters +8
    Detroit News/WDIV-TV9/30 - 10/3600 LV4.04540Peters +5
    Trafalgar Group (R)9/23 - 9/251047 LV3.04747Tie
    NBC News/Marist9/19 - 9/22799 LV4.34944Peters +5
    Ummm. Ok. Throw out any poll with less than 1000. Which leaves you with CBS and Trafalgar. Peters +3 to a tie. Basically margin of error race. Either way your suburban women ain’t dumb. They know these anarchists aren’t Trump voters while antifa are Biden voters. Pretty sure they can figure out on their own who to vote for...which like I said may not be Trump...but it won’t be this issue that sways them. It’s the 2016 voters who stayed home the dems need to move in Michigan because the ones who voted Trump ain’t switching. It’s too bad they refuse to knock on doors.
    Like I said, throw them basically out, it's close.  But that's not even the point.  You're talking about Peters, I'm talking about whether these idiots helped or hurt Trump.  They hurt him, again.  I love your false statement though in particular.  Right wing crazies aren't voters but "Antifa" votes?  How the fuck do you know that?  Did you look at Antifa Inc.'s 10-k statement of key shareholders and then check the voting rolls?  Just curious.  Or did you totally pull that out of your ass?
    Odds he’s a Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat voter?

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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    If someone dies from covid you kinda have to blame covid. I mean at least that’s how it works up in Canada. We don’t blame Trudeau for each Canadian death. We don’t blame Ford for each Ontario death. We sort of understand how viruses work. We also know that Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is incredible and we will most likely benefit from your R&D...we always do. So if I lost a loved one I would be devastated but I wouldn’t play politics with it. It’s just gross.
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    He is an embarrassment and a vile human being. I said that when he ran against Hillary. You make it sound like you’re telling me something i just don’t comprehend. What I am telling you is that he is necessary. That has not changed. And it’s not surprising that a “connected Maine political family” disagrees. This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Yeah, who is it for?  I'm the "job creator".  I'm the one propagating the youth of America.  My brother in law is the one training the next generation of military leaders.  So who's it for? Is it for someone more important than me?  Someone who generates more economic activity?  Is that the Trump voter?  I don't fucking think so.  You say it's necessary.  Why is it necessary?  What did he correct in his four years?  Trade?  North Korea? Iran? Deficit?  Debt? What issue is in better position today than four years ago?  Not fucking one.  His presidency has been a sick joke.  
    You don’t like peace in the middle east?
    There's no peace until Palestine and West Bank is solved.  And the Yemeni War ends.  And Iran stops enriching.  And Syria.  But right,  peace. 
    And we’re getting closer...
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    If someone dies from covid you kinda have to blame covid. I mean at least that’s how it works up in Canada. We don’t blame Trudeau for each Canadian death. We don’t blame Ford for each Ontario death. We sort of understand how viruses work. We also know that Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is incredible and we will most likely benefit from your R&D...we always do. So if I lost a loved one I would be devastated but I wouldn’t play politics with it. It’s just gross.
    Considering only 20% of Canadians approve of Trump, pretty safe to say this guy doesn’t speak for his fellow countrymen as much as he thinks he does





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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    If someone dies from covid you kinda have to blame covid. I mean at least that’s how it works up in Canada. We don’t blame Trudeau for each Canadian death. We don’t blame Ford for each Ontario death. We sort of understand how viruses work. We also know that Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is incredible and we will most likely benefit from your R&D...we always do. So if I lost a loved one I would be devastated but I wouldn’t play politics with it. It’s just gross.
    If your political leaders and politically intimidated science community and a certain percentage of your populace, egged on by the political leadership, stormed your legislatures, with firearms strapped to their persons, and generally dismissed the science that you look down your nose at me with, I think you’d be singing a completely different tune. So, when are you immigrating and taking a chair at one of our far superior universities? Maybe in Tejas, Flo Rida, Wisconsin, Michigan or North or South Dakota, professor? Surely the grass is greener, eh?
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    If someone dies from covid you kinda have to blame covid. I mean at least that’s how it works up in Canada. We don’t blame Trudeau for each Canadian death. We don’t blame Ford for each Ontario death. We sort of understand how viruses work. We also know that Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is incredible and we will most likely benefit from your R&D...we always do. So if I lost a loved one I would be devastated but I wouldn’t play politics with it. It’s just gross.
    Considering only 20% of Canadians approve of Trump, pretty safe to say this guy doesn’t speak for his fellow countrymen as much as he thinks he does





    Ummm...I know I don’t. But we’re talking about Covid so please try and keep up. Only 20% of Canadians approved of him pre-covid! The 80% who never approved are the same ones who can’t stop talking about Trump now as our case counts shoot up. Ontario is going back into phase 2 lockdown and yet we know it’s not really our leader’s fault. We get the virus has a say. Yet the 80% will rag on Trump’s management yet say nothing about Cuomo shipping covid bombs into nursing homes. Believe me I get it. It’s Orange Man Bad all day everyday up here. 
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    If someone dies from covid you kinda have to blame covid. I mean at least that’s how it works up in Canada. We don’t blame Trudeau for each Canadian death. We don’t blame Ford for each Ontario death. We sort of understand how viruses work. We also know that Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is incredible and we will most likely benefit from your R&D...we always do. So if I lost a loved one I would be devastated but I wouldn’t play politics with it. It’s just gross.
    If your political leaders and politically intimidated science community and a certain percentage of your populace, egged on by the political leadership, stormed your legislatures, with firearms strapped to their persons, and generally dismissed the science that you look down your nose at me with, I think you’d be singing a completely different tune. So, when are you immigrating and taking a chair at one of our far superior universities? Maybe in Tejas, Flo Rida, Wisconsin, Michigan or North or South Dakota, professor? Surely the grass is greener, eh?
    I’m actually considering moving to South Dakota as a “lockdown refugee”. I think I have a good case to make. 
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    If someone dies from covid you kinda have to blame covid. I mean at least that’s how it works up in Canada. We don’t blame Trudeau for each Canadian death. We don’t blame Ford for each Ontario death. We sort of understand how viruses work. We also know that Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is incredible and we will most likely benefit from your R&D...we always do. So if I lost a loved one I would be devastated but I wouldn’t play politics with it. It’s just gross.
    If your political leaders and politically intimidated science community and a certain percentage of your populace, egged on by the political leadership, stormed your legislatures, with firearms strapped to their persons, and generally dismissed the science that you look down your nose at me with, I think you’d be singing a completely different tune. So, when are you immigrating and taking a chair at one of our far superior universities? Maybe in Tejas, Flo Rida, Wisconsin, Michigan or North or South Dakota, professor? Surely the grass is greener, eh?
    I’m actually considering moving to South Dakota as a “lockdown refugee”. I think I have a good case to make. 
    Sure, sure you are.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    If someone dies from covid you kinda have to blame covid. I mean at least that’s how it works up in Canada. We don’t blame Trudeau for each Canadian death. We don’t blame Ford for each Ontario death. We sort of understand how viruses work. We also know that Trump’s Operation Warp Speed is incredible and we will most likely benefit from your R&D...we always do. So if I lost a loved one I would be devastated but I wouldn’t play politics with it. It’s just gross.
    Considering only 20% of Canadians approve of Trump, pretty safe to say this guy doesn’t speak for his fellow countrymen as much as he thinks he does





    Ummm...I know I don’t. But we’re talking about Covid so please try and keep up. Only 20% of Canadians approved of him pre-covid! The 80% who never approved are the same ones who can’t stop talking about Trump now as our case counts shoot up. Ontario is going back into phase 2 lockdown and yet we know it’s not really our leader’s fault. We get the virus has a say. Yet the 80% will rag on Trump’s management yet say nothing about Cuomo shipping covid bombs into nursing homes. Believe me I get it. It’s Orange Man Bad all day everyday up here. 
    Uh huh, sure. They know it’s not the leaders fault..when the leader constantly contradicts his public health officials on a daily basis. 

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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    He is an embarrassment and a vile human being. I said that when he ran against Hillary. You make it sound like you’re telling me something i just don’t comprehend. What I am telling you is that he is necessary. That has not changed. And it’s not surprising that a “connected Maine political family” disagrees. This is not for you. Never was for you.
    Yeah, who is it for?  I'm the "job creator".  I'm the one propagating the youth of America.  My brother in law is the one training the next generation of military leaders.  So who's it for? Is it for someone more important than me?  Someone who generates more economic activity?  Is that the Trump voter?  I don't fucking think so.  You say it's necessary.  Why is it necessary?  What did he correct in his four years?  Trade?  North Korea? Iran? Deficit?  Debt? What issue is in better position today than four years ago?  Not fucking one.  His presidency has been a sick joke.  
    You don’t like peace in the middle east?
    There's no peace until Palestine and West Bank is solved.  And the Yemeni War ends.  And Iran stops enriching.  And Syria.  But right,  peace. 
    And we’re getting closer...
    So that's the argument for a second term.  Not impressive. 
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    It would have been necessary.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,704
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    dignin said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Haaa. You think Biden’s caregivers let him use email? Dude still hasn’t upgraded from dial-up. He’s still trying to figure out why he can’t access the Rumor Pit. He’s still F5 ing for Alpine Valley for fuck sakes!
    It's sad that Trump got smoked in the debate by that guy.

    You thought that was a debate?
    Well that was the title in my TV Guide.  

    I'll tell you a story about the debate, and this is a microcosm of why Trump's support has plummeted since that Tuesday.  My wife's sister and her husband were over for dinner tonight.  He's a full bird Colonel and a professor at the Naval Academy.  They are both life long Republicans.  In fact, he got his bird from Susan Collins personally, as his family is a connected Maine political family.  Anyway, they watched the [sic] debate and he told me tonight that he was going to vote for Jorgenson but after that he said, I have to vote for Biden.  Trump cannot be president any longer.  That's exactly why the numbers fell apart for Trump after that travesty.  Now they live in MD and it won't make a difference there, but that exact thing happened all over the country.  You can mock and say "Orange Man Bad", but for most of America, he's an embarrassment and a vile human being. 
    Figure in the 215,000 Americans that died of covid and they each have 20 friends and family and 49% of them had voted Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat and they flip this cycle. That’s 2.1 million votes that aren’t going to Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat. Add his abhorrent rhetoric directed at the military and intelligence agencies? Both coupled with historic dem turnout? Can you say, “Blue Tsunami?”
    This is hilarious math.
    If you had a family member or friend that died from covid19, would you vote for Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat? Be honest.
    It would have been necessary.
    Like being Putin on the ritz’s stooge was necessary. Just read pages 250-285 of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s Report, volume V and there’s a whole lot of redactions of information regarding the Aglarov’s, the Putin on the ritz mobbed up money launderers. CYA Barr could release an unredacted version of that and the Team Mueller report but it might result in that 4 page spiked football bouncing back for a safety. And on page 258 Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat, the guy with a perfect memory, is reported as telling Team Mueller in his sworn written testimony that he had no recollection of conversations with Rodger Dodger Stoned regarding Wikileaks and Clinton/Podesta email dumps, despite overwhelming electronic and phone records to the contrary. The committee and report, a repub tool, begs to differ. Fancy that? Me thinks there’s going to be money laundering indictments coming down the pike seeing how the GAO pegged the Aglarovs as known money launderers, among other criminal enterprises. So much winning of brilliant brilliance in all its brilliancy.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,082
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
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    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Oh oh. It looks like someone did...

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
  • BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Oh oh. It looks like someone did...

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    You’re putting your faith in Ruddy Ghouliani, the NY Post and a story of a laptop “dropped off” at  a repair shop in Delaware in 2019, professor? I suppose you still believe Roger Dodger Stoned’s claims of “bombshell Hillary emails” that will lead her to being “locked up?” CYA Barr should immediately start an investigation. As should Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy Graham’s senate committee. Tsk, tsk.
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  • BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Oh oh. It looks like someone did...

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    And, meanwhile:

    https://apple.news/AglnOITyURayqWfFbwtMQIA
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,739
    edited October 2020
    Sure is a lot of hard trollin' going on
    Some from north of the border
    Some from near the southern border 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 24,733
    Sure is a lot of hard trollin' going on
    Some from north of the border
    Some from near the southern border 
    Both are to be laughed at! 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,607
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So they're pushing the Durham report back to after the election (spoiler alert--there's not a whole lot there) and now they quietly announce they found no evidence of wrong doing regarding the masking nonsense?

    Where art thou, devout Trumpists? You, who were clinging to these conspiracies to swing the election? Why so silent?
    @BS44325
    @RoleModelsinBlood31

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html


    This is faaaar from over, we all know that.  Unlike democrats, republicans hold these things close to the chest and don’t leak (even falsities) to the media to “help” them.  His investigation has gotten much bigger than was originally expected, that much is obvious.

    If I was leading this investigation, I would want to run those down before I started to “show my cards” to my targets by making indictments public.  I expect when an indictment is filed — and I believe one will be filed — it will include an extraordinarily detailed conspiracy count — maybe more than one conspiracy count — laying out the evidence against named and unnamed co-conspirators.  A conspiracy charge includes a section describing the “manner and means” of the conspiracy — how the group planned and executed the objectives of the conspiracy — and a lengthy factual statement of the “overt acts” committed by individual co-conspirators “in furtherance of the objectives” of the conspiracy.

    To be legally sufficient, an indictment only needs to describe one overt act.  Historically there was a “practice” of minimizing the number of overt acts set forth in the indictment so as to not provide more information to the defense than the law required.  In the past couple decades the practice has changed, and federal prosecutors now draft what are called “speaking indictments” which are sometimes wildly “over-inclusive” in describing the overt acts.  The reason for doing this is the indictment is a “public record”, and anything in the indictment can be discussed in a press release or at a press conference announcing the case. A classic example of this was the Troll Farm and Russian GRU indictments announced by the Special Counsel’s Office. 

    They have all learned how the democrats operate, and it is to lie, cheat, and use any means necessary to attain political power: the US media, foreign assets, their own FBI, DOJ, etc.  republicans are much smarter at this game, and we’ll see indictments come

    December or early January, just before the inauguration of Trump.

    You really should cite your sources. Maybe provide a link?
    To you? Lmao, you’re the biggest clown shoe here, and that’s saying a lot, seeing as this is the most misinformed “political” discussion group I tread!  Pee-tape? Russia? I owe you nothing, fool.  I told you all along.

    I only just scratched the surface in this pathetic echo chamber this last hour, but idiots here are talking about “right wing” dudes involved in the MI kidnapping? Jesus Christ you fools lap up everything you’re told.  It’s already come out that one of the guys was a BLM activist who denounced Trump in videos in front of an anarchist flag of all things. didn’t take long to look that up, you just have to finally acknowledge that the candy you’ve been sucking on has been fed to you like a baby because you slurp it all up without question.  Another of the goons? Pardoned by DE governor a few years back, only to return to attempt a shitty plot to kidnap someone.  These weren’t right wingers, they were boogaloos, who may as well be left wing since their anti-gov’t beliefs fall more in line with Antifa and BLM than anyone on the right who supports their gov’t/country and doesn’t want to overthrow it.

    i haven’t seen it yet, but what kind of spun filth is floating around this forum about the “security” clown in Denver who shot and killed the conservative hat maker at the march?  You realize he was far left? Again, apologies if it’s been covered, but holy shit you all are so far off base with reality and just spoon fed anti-govt, anti-country bile that I just have to assume you’ve been fed it again with that news.


    Where's the video of them denouncing Trump?  
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/09/man-accused-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot-ripped-trump-as-tyrant/amp/
    "every single person that works for gov't is your enemy".  Okay fine, he's a militia man.  That doesn't make him left wing.  He planned to abduct Whitmer and Northam, two Democratic governors.  These are the same jokers that invaded the State house in Michigan.  You think they vote Democrat or something?
    Didn’t say that. I said their views more align with anti-govt. to
    say they’re white supramacists it right wing is just as untruthful.  They’re anarchists, whichever wing you want them on is your choice.
    Do you think the news that Whitmer was the target of an abduction helped or hurt Trump's cause in Michigan?
    Neither. Just like a Bernie Bro shooting up a baseball field full of Republicans makes no difference. 
    This is big local news in Michigan, not happening in DC.  You'll see another little bump or solidified D numbers in the polls in Michigan coming up.  Then you'll start seeing Trump pulling ads, if that hasn't already happened. 
    Except John James is now only running a point behind Peters. The “decides” have decided and this shit won’t move them. Trump voters get that these bastards aren’t Trump people. Biden voters will claim they are regardless. The “middle” if they still exist might hate the insanity but won’t make there end decision based on the actions of domestic terrorists. My understanding is that Americans are made of sterner stuff. 
    What’s your Electoral College prediction professor, ye of such faith?
    Not there yet but it’s still feeling very 2016. Four years ago at this time we were talking about Access Hollywood and y’all were calling me crazy. Good times. Good times.


    why, have you found Biden’s email server?
    Oh oh. It looks like someone did...

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
    uh oh...more chum to be easily forgotten
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 24,733
    Thread started 2018 has there been any indictments? What could they be waiting for surely two years into this they must have a detailed report to rival Muller’s no? 
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