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tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
edited December 2017 in A Moving Train
This guy needs his own thread. He's either going to get elected or disappear after next week, but based on everything that is going on I am not too optimistic the judge will get his justice.

Recent headlines, while not damning against the accusers, does allow the GOP and Moore wiggle room and you know they will feast on this little tidbit:

Beverly Young Nelson, one of several women accusing Alabama Republican senate candidate Roy Moore of sexual misconduct, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Friday that she amended notes to what she says is Moore's inscription in her high school yearbook.

Nelson came forward in an appearance alongside her attorney, Gloria Allred, in a press conference last month to accuse Moore of assaulting her when she was a teenager and he was 30. Nelson claimed that Moore had attempted to force her to perform a sex act on him when she was in high school, and offered what she said was a note Moore left in her yearbook by way of proof.

The message in question reads: "To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say Merry Christmas. Christmas 1977. Love, Roy Moore, D.A. 12-22-77 Olde Hickory House."

Moore's campaign quickly pushed back on the allegation and insisted that it was not his handwriting. They also noted that Moore was not a district attorney – or D.A. – at the time, and was actually an assistant district attorney.

"I've got a question for Gloria Allred and Ms. Nelson," Moore's lawyer, Phillip L. Jauregui, said in a November press conference. "Do you still hold that everything written in that yearbook was written by Judge Moore? Or was it written by somebody else? That's not an allegation, it's a question."

Jauregui called on Allred and Nelson to release the yearbook to neutral experts who could speak to its authenticity. Allred said at the time that she would release it to an independent investigator if relevant Senate committees opened an investigation into Moore.

While still insisting that Moore signed her yearbook, Nelson now says that she added her own notes. 

"He signed your yearbook?" ABC News' Tom Llamas' asked Nelson in an interview on "Good Morning America." "He did sign it" Nelson she responded.

"And you made some notes underneath?" Llamas asked. "Yes," Nelson said, with Allred sitting next to her. "Good Morning America" did not ask -- and Nelson did not say -- when her notes were added. 


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-moore-accuser-says-she-added-notes-to-his-yearbook-inscription/

But then there's this, which should make it even more obvious he deserves to lose:

At Moore's Florence rally, the former judge outlined all the wrongs he sees in Washington and "spiritual wickedness in high places." He warned of "the awful calamity of abortion and sodomy and perverse behavior and murders and shootings and road rage" as "a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins."

In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last "great" -- Moore acknowledged the nation's history of racial divisions, but said: "I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another.... Our families were strong, our country had a direction." At the same event, Moore referred to Native Americans and Asian Americans as "reds and yellows," and earlier this year he suggested the September 11 terrorist attacks were divine punishment.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/roy-moore-slavery/index.html

This guy is such garbage, it's unbelievable.
It's a hopeless situation...
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    edited December 2017
    For the republican party in general and republicans of Alabama in particular here are his attributes...
    old
    white
    male
    right wing
    conservative
    homophobe
    racist
    anti-semite
    anti-lgbtq people and rights
    anti transgendered people and rights
    pro-slavery
    pro-life
    pro gun
    molester of teen aged girls


  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    tbergs said:
    This guy needs his own thread. He's either going to get elected or disappear after next week, but based on everything that is going on I am not too optimistic the judge will get his justice.

    That's disgraced former judge. He is no longer a judge.
  • KatKat Posts: 4,878
    The more they look, the more they find....

    Roy Moore Slams America, Says ‘Maybe Putin Is Right’
    U.S. Senate candidate says the United States “promotes a lot of bad things.”
    (video)
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,195
    Bentleyspop said:
    For the republican party in general and republicans of Alabama in particular here are his attributes...
    old
    white
    male
    right wing
    conservative
    homophobe
    racist
    anti-semite
    anti-lgbtq people and rights
    anti transgendered people and rights
    pro-slavery
    pro-life
    pro gun
    molester of teen aged girls


    I've bolded the things that make the American right uncomfortable.
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  • riley540riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    edited December 2017
    Roy Moore is scum. He should step down. 
    I don’t think this man and his supporters should be clumped into the same category as every right leaning person though. 
    I lean right and think all predators should step down or be removed from public office. This isn’t a party based issue. There’s sick people from all walks of life. Al Franken, Roy Moore, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Oreilly, Bill Cosby... seems more like a fame and power issue 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,930
    riley540 said:
    Roy Moore is scum. He should step down. 
    I don’t think this man and his supporters should be clumped into the same category as every right leaning person though. 
    I lean right and think all predators should step down or be removed from public office. This isn’t a party based issue. There’s sick people from all walks of life. Al Franken, Roy Moore, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Oreilly, Bill Cosby... seems more like a game and power issue 
    Agreed but but you failed to mention that your GOP party has failed to distance themselves from the sexual predator and child molester unlike the Democratic party has drawn the line zero tolerance on any sexual issues pertaining to their party , the GOP has gone full in for Moore & Orange bafoon ....
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,304
    OK, let's so let's see:

    Chases after teenage girls.  Check.
    Refers to Asians as "yellow".  Check.
    Refers to Native Americans as "reds". Check.
    Thoughts times were great when they included slavery.  Check.
    9-11 attacks were "divine punishments".  Check.
    Makes aggressive statements against gays and racial groups.  Check.

    Yeah, we got a winner here.  A real "winner".
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,376
    edited December 2017
    Double post
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,376
    brianlux said:
    OK, let's so let's see:

    Chases after teenage girls.  Check.
    Refers to Asians as "yellow".  Check.
    Refers to Native Americans as "reds". Check.
    Thoughts times were great when they included slavery.  Check.
    9-11 attacks were "divine punishments".  Check.
    Makes aggressive statements against gays and racial groups.  Check.
    Says ‘Maybe Putin Is Right’ Check

    Yeah, we got a winner here.  A real "winner".
    Fixed
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    brianlux said:
    OK, let's so let's see:

    Chases after teenage girls.  Check.
    Refers to Asians as "yellow".  Check.
    Refers to Native Americans as "reds". Check.
    Thoughts times were great when they included slavery.  Check.
    9-11 attacks were "divine punishments".  Check.
    Makes aggressive statements against gays and racial groups.  Check.

    Yeah, we got a winner here.  A real "winner".

    You forgot:
    America is a christian country and other religions should not be able to serve in public office

    MUSLIM ELLISON SHOULD NOT SIT IN CONGRESS
    Our Constitution states, “Each House [of Congress] shall be the judge … of the qualifications of its own members.” Enough evidence exists for Congress to question Ellison’s qualifications to be a member of Congress as well as his commitment to the Constitution in view of his apparent determination to embrace the Quran and an Islamic philosophy directly contrary to the principles of the Constitution. But common sense alone dictates that in the midst of a war with Islamic terrorists we should not place someone in a position of great power who shares their doctrine. In 1943, we would never have allowed a member of Congress to take their oath on “Mein Kampf,” or someone in the 1950s to swear allegiance to the “Communist Manifesto.” Congress has the authority and should act to prohibit Ellison from taking the congressional oath today!
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    The gop supports Moore
    Moore is evil, hateful, and ignorant
    When you support evil you are evil as well
  • riley540riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    josevolution said:
    riley540 said:
    Roy Moore is scum. He should step down. 
    I don’t think this man and his supporters should be clumped into the same category as every right leaning person though. 
    I lean right and think all predators should step down or be removed from public office. This isn’t a party based issue. There’s sick people from all walks of life. Al Franken, Roy Moore, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Oreilly, Bill Cosby... seems more like a game and power issue 
    Agreed but but you failed to mention that your GOP party has failed to distance themselves from the sexual predator and child molester unlike the Democratic party has drawn the line zero tolerance on any sexual issues pertaining to their party , the GOP has gone full in for Moore & Orange bafoon
    Agreed. I think the democratic party did the right thing this week in having franken step down. I was hoping it would be a wake up call for the Republican Party... keep in mind there are a lot of people on the right, myself included that thinks Roy Moore is trash. It’s sickening seeing people back him still. And I didn’t vote for trump, just to clarify! I promise I’m not a crazy 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,304
    Good grief, it just keeps getting worse.  WTF happened to this country?  WTF happened to all my boomer generation's "we're going to change the world" viewpoints.?  No wonder Abbie Hoffman killed himself.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,930
    riley540 said:
    josevolution said:
    riley540 said:
    Roy Moore is scum. He should step down. 
    I don’t think this man and his supporters should be clumped into the same category as every right leaning person though. 
    I lean right and think all predators should step down or be removed from public office. This isn’t a party based issue. There’s sick people from all walks of life. Al Franken, Roy Moore, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Oreilly, Bill Cosby... seems more like a game and power issue 
    Agreed but but you failed to mention that your GOP party has failed to distance themselves from the sexual predator and child molester unlike the Democratic party has drawn the line zero tolerance on any sexual issues pertaining to their party , the GOP has gone full in for Moore & Orange bafoon
    Agreed. I think the democratic party did the right thing this week in having franken step down. I was hoping it would be a wake up call for the Republican Party... keep in mind there are a lot of people on the right, myself included that thinks Roy Moore is trash. It’s sickening seeing people back him still. And I didn’t vote for trump, just to clarify! I promise I’m not a crazy 
    yes i'm not stating that every republican voter is like Moore or his supporters , i'm pointing out the GOP stablishment they are now believing Moore will win so to them that's another vote on their side no matter how corrupt or dangerous that politician might be they put their party 1st country or morals nowhere to be found ....
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    Bentleyspop said:
    For the republican party in general and republicans of Alabama in particular here are his attributes...
    old
    white
    male
    right wing
    conservative
    homophobe
    racist
    anti-semite
    anti-lgbtq people and rights
    anti transgendered people and rights
    pro-slavery
    pro-life
    pro gun
    molester of teen aged girls



    You forgot, removed from the bench twice, but he was a warrior for God, by golly.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Been thinking about this. 

    Franken steps down D governor appoints D to fill his seat. 

    Conyers steps down, R governor refuses to fill his vacancy. 

    Presumably Alabama had an R governor, if Moore wins and immediately steps down, Rs keep the seat. 
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Typical Dems, trotting out John Lewis for identity politicking...vote for Jones, not Moore, Jones is bad but Moore is worse and neither will do shit for you, as usual.

    What's the word for the same message over and over and over and over again and expecting a different result.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    He’s a vile worthless piece of shit, just like the current president.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,026
    Bentleyspop said:
    The gop supports Moore
    Moore is evil, hateful, and ignorant
    When you support evil you are evil as well
    I would consider myself a Republican in the past but the way this party is now I want no part of it.   I am not a Democrat but can loudly sing-a-long the next time Eddie sings "Sure as fuck ain't no Republican either" during I am a Patriot.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JC29856 said:
    Typical Dems, trotting out John Lewis for identity politicking...vote for Jones, not Moore, Jones is bad but Moore is worse and neither will do shit for you, as usual.

    What's the word for the same message over and over and over and over again and expecting a different result.
    Troll? Is troll the word you're looking for? Pretty sure it's troll. Troll. 
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    Troll is the word, I believe.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,821
    In Alabama there are people who clearly support this shit stain and they clearly don't  believe in separation of church  and state.......

    Did an Alabama Church Display a Sign Comparing Roy Moore to Jesus?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    Bentleyspop said:
    In Alabama there are people who clearly support this shit stain and they clearly don't  believe in separation of church  and state.......

    Did an Alabama Church Display a Sign Comparing Roy Moore to Jesus?
    The backwards thinking it requires to get to that comparison is just mind boggling. How embarrassing it must be to live in Alabama and not be a Moore supporter. It's embarrassing enough to be a US citizen with Trump, but Alabama and Moore is like being in another inner circle of hell.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,304
    JC29856 said:
    Typical Dems, trotting out John Lewis for identity politicking...vote for Jones, not Moore, Jones is bad but Moore is worse and neither will do shit for you, as usual.

    What's the word for the same message over and over and over and over again and expecting a different result.
    Pick one:

    "Crackers".
    "Bananas"
    "Loopy"
    "Nuts"
    "Crazy"
    "Wackadoo"
    "Bonkers"
    "Flipped"
    "Insane"
    "Barmy"
    "Kooky"
    "Mad"
    "Mental"
    "Deranged"
    "Daft"
    "Screwball"
    "Cuckoo"
    "Maniacal"
    "Psycho"
    "Schizo"
    "Screwy"
    "Demented"
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,305
    Alabama current GOP senator says he cant vote for Moore , so he wrote in "distinguished republican" on his absentee ballot........
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    mickeyrat said:
    Alabama current GOP senator says he cant vote for Moore , so he wrote in "distinguished republican" on his absentee ballot........
    Is there such a thing? Who knew.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    There’s more than one poster on here who agrees with this as well as a majority of voting Alabamans.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/10/politics/kfile-roy-moore-aroostook-watchmen/index.html
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,304
    I was curious about Moore's chances of winning so I checked Real ClearPolitics special election poll consolidations.  Bad idea.  Not surprised, just bummed.
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