Is technology taking over our lives?!?

tempo_n_groove

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

bbiggs

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

Exactly. That ship has sailed. Plus, you can’t fix stupidity. 

brianlux

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

bbiggs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

Exactly. That ship has sailed. Plus, you can’t fix stupidity. 

Anarchists, right winger and libertarians will disagree with this but, in my opinion, since so many people don't seem to be able to practice safe driving while using their cell phones, I would be in favor of a law that, using technology, makes it difficult to impossible to use a cell phone while a vehicle is in operation.    I don't see self-driving vehicles as an answer.  It would be cheaper to make vehicles non-op when a cell phone is on and visa versa.

tempo_n_groove

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

bbiggs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

Exactly. That ship has sailed. Plus, you can’t fix stupidity. 

Anarchists, right winger and libertarians will disagree with this but, in my opinion, since so many people don't seem to be able to practice safe driving while using their cell phones, I would be in favor of a law that, using technology, makes it difficult to impossible to use a cell phone while a vehicle is in operation.    I don't see self-driving vehicles as an answer.  It would be cheaper to make vehicles non-op when a cell phone is on and visa versa.

They have an option like that in newer cars.  Parents can control the car not to work if their kids' cell phone isn't off or something like that.

brianlux

tempo_n_groove said:

brianlux said:

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

bbiggs said:

tempo_n_groove said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

You know people aren't putting down their devices so I say let the cars drive themselves.

Exactly. That ship has sailed. Plus, you can’t fix stupidity. 

Anarchists, right winger and libertarians will disagree with this but, in my opinion, since so many people don't seem to be able to practice safe driving while using their cell phones, I would be in favor of a law that, using technology, makes it difficult to impossible to use a cell phone while a vehicle is in operation.    I don't see self-driving vehicles as an answer.  It would be cheaper to make vehicles non-op when a cell phone is on and visa versa.

They have an option like that in newer cars.  Parents can control the car not to work if their kids' cell phone isn't off or something like that.

Excellent!

PJ_Soul

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Why many Canadians don't love self-checkout
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/self-checkout-grocery-retail-survey-1.4926545?fbclid=IwAR3gjcFalJG0pgV-dUhobTWD87CJomImGdE8F1tSSXn61DfQXiswKbEQ98s

That's my experience too.  Almost every time I got through check out the machine dings and tells me to wait for assistance.  I prepare to be dropped through a trap door.  I've tried arguing with the damn dumb machine to no avail.  So I  wait, do the eye roll, wait some more. 

But this rarely happens though because I usually allow myself enough time to get in "the real person behind the register" line.  I like seeing real people employed.  Besides that, the machine is always right.  You can't win.  With the real person cashier, you are almost always right or a least you can come to an agreement.  The machines though, they are tyrannical. 

This is why the cashierless stores are going to be the future. No checkout at all. Just walk in, pick up whatever you want, walk out.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Why many Canadians don't love self-checkout
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/self-checkout-grocery-retail-survey-1.4926545?fbclid=IwAR3gjcFalJG0pgV-dUhobTWD87CJomImGdE8F1tSSXn61DfQXiswKbEQ98s

That's my experience too.  Almost every time I got through check out the machine dings and tells me to wait for assistance.  I prepare to be dropped through a trap door.  I've tried arguing with the damn dumb machine to no avail.  So I  wait, do the eye roll, wait some more. 

But this rarely happens though because I usually allow myself enough time to get in "the real person behind the register" line.  I like seeing real people employed.  Besides that, the machine is always right.  You can't win.  With the real person cashier, you are almost always right or a least you can come to an agreement.  The machines though, they are tyrannical. 

This is why the cashierless stores are going to be the future. No checkout at all. Just walk in, pick up whatever you want, walk out.

where I live, that's called shoplifting. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Why many Canadians don't love self-checkout
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/self-checkout-grocery-retail-survey-1.4926545?fbclid=IwAR3gjcFalJG0pgV-dUhobTWD87CJomImGdE8F1tSSXn61DfQXiswKbEQ98s

That's my experience too.  Almost every time I got through check out the machine dings and tells me to wait for assistance.  I prepare to be dropped through a trap door.  I've tried arguing with the damn dumb machine to no avail.  So I  wait, do the eye roll, wait some more. 

But this rarely happens though because I usually allow myself enough time to get in "the real person behind the register" line.  I like seeing real people employed.  Besides that, the machine is always right.  You can't win.  With the real person cashier, you are almost always right or a least you can come to an agreement.  The machines though, they are tyrannical. 

This is why the cashierless stores are going to be the future. No checkout at all. Just walk in, pick up whatever you want, walk out.

where I live, that's called shoplifting. 

Well yeah, it is everywhere in Canada so far. We don't have these kinds of stores yet, lol. But they're coming soon enough. I bet in 30 years most or all major stores (at least) will be cashierless.

brianlux

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Why many Canadians don't love self-checkout
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/self-checkout-grocery-retail-survey-1.4926545?fbclid=IwAR3gjcFalJG0pgV-dUhobTWD87CJomImGdE8F1tSSXn61DfQXiswKbEQ98s

That's my experience too.  Almost every time I got through check out the machine dings and tells me to wait for assistance.  I prepare to be dropped through a trap door.  I've tried arguing with the damn dumb machine to no avail.  So I  wait, do the eye roll, wait some more. 

But this rarely happens though because I usually allow myself enough time to get in "the real person behind the register" line.  I like seeing real people employed.  Besides that, the machine is always right.  You can't win.  With the real person cashier, you are almost always right or a least you can come to an agreement.  The machines though, they are tyrannical. 

This is why the cashierless stores are going to be the future. No checkout at all. Just walk in, pick up whatever you want, walk out.

That's right, and it's because we're all a bunch of commies down here who want everything to be free! 

rgambs

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

Because this is a country (species) of morons and you can't teach 'em a damn thing besides how to eat Doritos and drink Mountain Dew lol

hedonist

rgambs said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

Because this is a country (species) of morons and you can't teach 'em a damn thing besides how to eat Doritos and drink Mountain Dew lol

So we'll create a whole new system of extra-smart (ha) vehicles to transport everyone because of some extra-stupid people?  Let people pay for their own ineptness; I want no part!

(I do love me the occasional classic Doritos, by the way )

rgambs

hedonist said:

rgambs said:

hedonist said:

Why not teach people to be responsible when operating a potential killing machine, instead of catering to their stupidity?

No thanks to cars that drive themselves; I doubt it would be as idyllic as many seem to envision.

Because this is a country (species) of morons and you can't teach 'em a damn thing besides how to eat Doritos and drink Mountain Dew lol

So we'll create a whole new system of extra-smart (ha) vehicles to transport everyone because of some extra-stupid people?  Let people pay for their own ineptness; I want no part!

(I do love me the occasional classic Doritos, by the way )

Yeah, but they take casualties with them.  People pay for the idiots one way or another, whether it's a few people paying with their lives or everyone paying with inconvenience.

Everyone loves Doritos!

brianlux

Me...

ow.

Thoughts_Arrive

I refuse to use self check-out. I'd rather keep young people in jobs.

Meltdown99

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

Why many Canadians don't love self-checkout
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/self-checkout-grocery-retail-survey-1.4926545?fbclid=IwAR3gjcFalJG0pgV-dUhobTWD87CJomImGdE8F1tSSXn61DfQXiswKbEQ98s

That's my experience too.  Almost every time I got through check out the machine dings and tells me to wait for assistance.  I prepare to be dropped through a trap door.  I've tried arguing with the damn dumb machine to no avail.  So I  wait, do the eye roll, wait some more. 

But this rarely happens though because I usually allow myself enough time to get in "the real person behind the register" line.  I like seeing real people employed.  Besides that, the machine is always right.  You can't win.  With the real person cashier, you are almost always right or a least you can come to an agreement.  The machines though, they are tyrannical. 

I rarely use self-checkout for the same reasons.  I also like to keep people employed...

Meltdown99

In Ontario starting January 1, distracted driving will be a $1000 fine and a 3-day roadside suspension of your DL, on top of the fine you get a $300-$400 tow fee, and a $200 per night impound fee.  If you get busted knowing this, you should get a 10 grand fine for stupidity.

brianlux

Meltdown99 said:

In Ontario starting January 1, distracted driving will be a $1000 fine and a 3-day roadside suspension of your DL, on top of the fine you get a $300-$400 tow fee, and a $200 per night impound fee.  If you get busted knowing this, you should get a 10 grand fine for stupidity.

I frequently see people texting while driving, often in plain view.  The fine here  in California for driving while texting is only $150.  I'd like to see them bump that up for the first violation and then even great er fee and suspended drivers license for the second.  But I honestly don't think California is serious about stopping it from happening.  Yes, in some ways, The Golden State is rather flaky.

PJ_Soul

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I refuse to use self check-out. I'd rather keep young people in jobs.

Great. Unfortunately it's not going to do any good in the long run. At some point you're not going to have an option. Businesses aren't going to keep employing people when they don't need to.

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I refuse to use self check-out. I'd rather keep young people in jobs.

Great. Unfortunately it's not going to do any good in the long run. At some point you're not going to have an option. Businesses aren't going to keep employing people when they don't need to.

I will wait for the day that I can just roll my cart to the check and it somehow figures out what's in my cart and bills me accurately...

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

I refuse to use self check-out. I'd rather keep young people in jobs.

Great. Unfortunately it's not going to do any good in the long run. At some point you're not going to have an option. Businesses aren't going to keep employing people when they don't need to.

I will wait for the day that I can just roll my cart to the check and it somehow figures out what's in my cart and bills me accurately...

Yeah. That will be soon, since that technology already exists, and is reliable, and you don't even have to roll to a check out at all. You just walk out the door. Amazon already opened its second store like this in Seattle. It actually reads what you have when you take it off the shelf. And it's all tabulated via an app on your smartphone, which you scan when you walk in the door. It works by using the same types of technologies found in self-driving cars. It can detect when products are taken or returned to the shelves and keeps track of them in your virtual cart. When you walk out of the store, you're automatically charged electronically.