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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    What happened to them?

    Why can't they get anything done despite controlling all branches of government?

    And will they survive the trump impeachment/resignation?

    Discuss.
    This was posted in 2017 now the same could be said about the Democratic party in 2020.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    What happened to them?

    Why can't they get anything done despite controlling all branches of government?

    And will they survive the trump impeachment/resignation?

    Discuss.
    This was posted in 2017 now the same could be said about the Democratic party in 2020.
    democrats control all branches of government?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,000
    What happened to them?

    Why can't they get anything done despite controlling all branches of government?

    And will they survive the trump impeachment/resignation?

    Discuss.
    This was posted in 2017 now the same could be said about the Democratic party in 2020.
    democrats control all branches of government?
    :lol:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,000
    i saw that ivanka officially switched her party affiliation from democrat to republican today. so you guys got that going for ya.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,523
    What happened to them?

    Why can't they get anything done despite controlling all branches of government?

    And will they survive the trump impeachment/resignation?

    Discuss.
    This was posted in 2017 now the same could be said about the Democratic party in 2020.
    You forget the Senate please tell us who rules the senate? Will be here waiting 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,977
    Indiubtly so. Shits flying. Poor Moscow Mitchy Baby doesn’t know what to do without a black or female in the line. So interesting to watch the confusion.


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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,523
    Indiubtly so. Shits flying. Poor Moscow Mitchy Baby doesn’t know what to do without a black or female in the line. So interesting to watch the confusion.


    I really despise this fucking man totally hate him pure evil, I’ll stop there..
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    ireddit
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,048
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?

    For me this is baby steps. 

    You want a revolution or not?

    Revolutions don't happen by voting for losers like Bernie. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,048
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?

    For me this is baby steps. 

    You want a revolution or not?

    Revolutions don't happen by voting for losers like Bernie. 
    I’m all ready for the revolution. I’m just surprised after our exchange where you thought that giving 100% of people in America health care was a radical idea.  Some real shit needs to happen. Things are bad loads of my friends and myself are without work. Some people can’t even register for unemployment and rent is still due amongst other things. It’s like a slow cooker recipe for violent revolution.  Anyone that doesn’t think pausing/forgiving payments  bills, etc and allowing free healthcare to those that need it at this time has no care for other humans. 
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?

    For me this is baby steps. 

    You want a revolution or not?

    Revolutions don't happen by voting for losers like Bernie. 
    I’m all ready for the revolution. I’m just surprised after our exchange where you thought that giving 100% of people in America health care was a radical idea.  Some real shit needs to happen. Things are bad loads of my friends and myself are without work. Some people can’t even register for unemployment and rent is still due amongst other things. It’s like a slow cooker recipe for violent revolution.  Anyone that doesn’t think pausing/forgiving payments  bills, etc and allowing free healthcare to those that need it at this time has no care for other humans. 
    REally?  Burn it all down?  Anarchy?  Bastille Day?  You're cool with a bunch of innocent people dying?  Fascinating.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited March 2020
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?

    For me this is baby steps. 

    You want a revolution or not?

    Revolutions don't happen by voting for losers like Bernie. 
    I’m all ready for the revolution. I’m just surprised after our exchange where you thought that giving 100% of people in America health care was a radical idea.  Some real shit needs to happen. Things are bad loads of my friends and myself are without work. Some people can’t even register for unemployment and rent is still due amongst other things. It’s like a slow cooker recipe for violent revolution.  Anyone that doesn’t think pausing/forgiving payments  bills, etc and allowing free healthcare to those that need it at this time has no care for other humans. 
    You need to learn about the law that just passed. You need to learn about the pause that AG's and regulators are putting on collections.  Learn about the re-age rules and TDR's that the OCC has just implemented.  Learn about rent abatements.  Learn about the SBA getting ready to distribute billions in no interest, practically note free loans to businesses under 500 employees who don't furlough.  
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?

    For me this is baby steps. 

    You want a revolution or not?

    Revolutions don't happen by voting for losers like Bernie. 
    I’m all ready for the revolution. I’m just surprised after our exchange where you thought that giving 100% of people in America health care was a radical idea.  Some real shit needs to happen. Things are bad loads of my friends and myself are without work. Some people can’t even register for unemployment and rent is still due amongst other things. It’s like a slow cooker recipe for violent revolution.  Anyone that doesn’t think pausing/forgiving payments  bills, etc and allowing free healthcare to those that need it at this time has no care for other humans. 

    I'm not referring to our current medical emergency. I'm talking about healthcare as a political platform.  I'm all for universal healthcare,  healthcare is a basic human right imho. 

    Universal Healthcare != M4A

    M4A is DOA
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,048
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?

    For me this is baby steps. 

    You want a revolution or not?

    Revolutions don't happen by voting for losers like Bernie. 
    I’m all ready for the revolution. I’m just surprised after our exchange where you thought that giving 100% of people in America health care was a radical idea.  Some real shit needs to happen. Things are bad loads of my friends and myself are without work. Some people can’t even register for unemployment and rent is still due amongst other things. It’s like a slow cooker recipe for violent revolution.  Anyone that doesn’t think pausing/forgiving payments  bills, etc and allowing free healthcare to those that need it at this time has no care for other humans. 
    You need to learn about the law that just passed. You need to learn about the pause that AG's and regulators are putting on collections.  Learn about the re-age rules and TDR's that the OCC has just implemented.  Learn about rent abatements.  Learn about the SBA getting ready to distribute billions in no interest, practically note free loans to businesses under 500 employees who don't furlough.  
    A pause is not forgiveness.  So what when this is all over people will have 4,6,8 months etc of back bills to make up before they can even begin getting ahead again.  Sounds fair to me but hey at least the wealthy and business class will get their payments.  I’m not gonna pretend I know any of the acronyms you are using.  Will any of those keep a person who is forced out of work from losing everything and going into further debt while this crisis goes on.  I mean is a rent abatement going to keep people from having to back pay months of rent when they had no income?
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited March 2020
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    ireddit
    Pretty drastic.  I thought we were supposed to be about taking baby steps in the right direction?

    For me this is baby steps. 

    You want a revolution or not?

    Revolutions don't happen by voting for losers like Bernie. 
    I’m all ready for the revolution. I’m just surprised after our exchange where you thought that giving 100% of people in America health care was a radical idea.  Some real shit needs to happen. Things are bad loads of my friends and myself are without work. Some people can’t even register for unemployment and rent is still due amongst other things. It’s like a slow cooker recipe for violent revolution.  Anyone that doesn’t think pausing/forgiving payments  bills, etc and allowing free healthcare to those that need it at this time has no care for other humans. 
    You need to learn about the law that just passed. You need to learn about the pause that AG's and regulators are putting on collections.  Learn about the re-age rules and TDR's that the OCC has just implemented.  Learn about rent abatements.  Learn about the SBA getting ready to distribute billions in no interest, practically note free loans to businesses under 500 employees who don't furlough.  
    A pause is not forgiveness.  So what when this is all over people will have 4,6,8 months etc of back bills to make up before they can even begin getting ahead again.  Sounds fair to me but hey at least the wealthy and business class will get their payments.  I’m not gonna pretend I know any of the acronyms you are using.  Will any of those keep a person who is forced out of work from losing everything and going into further debt while this crisis goes on.  I mean is a rent abatement going to keep people from having to back pay months of rent when they had no income?
    That doesn't make any sense.  A person that is unemployed is slated to receive 100% of their income (assuming it's calculated by 2018) for at least 4 months, along with the $1200 check plus $500 for each child.  Why should their debt be forgiven?  Have you read the relief act at all?
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,048
    edited March 2020
    Yes I have read the relief act.  Not everyone will get relief.  Unfortunately I don’t have a financial cushion to help anyone else out or I would.  I do have like 4 rolls of TP that I would like to donate. Additionally that money isn’t going to be available by rent day.  Again this bailout is enamoring people  because there is a very small individual benefit to some, all the while the financial tricksters will get their hands on those interest free loans through loop holes and come out ahead when and if we ever go back to normal.  Loads of real estate that is defaulted and small businesses will be snapped up by predatory investors looking at this crisis as a business opportunity.  This isn’t the first time this type of financial crisis has happened in my lifetime.  Judging by the fact that the last one was less severe I am predicting that we will probably see at least double the corporate shenanigans as 2008. I mean I’m not gonna spend my 1200 to build a guillotine like CM189 suggested above but if the going gets bad Im not going to be on the side of the “let them eat cake” crowd.
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    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    Yes I have read the relief act.  Not everyone will get relief.  Unfortunately I don’t have a financial cushion to help anyone else out or I would.  I do have like 4 rolls of TP that I would like to donate. Additionally that money isn’t going to be available by rent day.  Again this bailout is enamoring people  because there is a very small individual benefit to some, all the while the financial tricksters will get their hands on those interest free loans through loop holes and come out ahead when and if we ever go back to normal.  Loads of real estate that is defaulted and small businesses will be snapped up by predatory investors looking at this crisis as a business opportunity.  This isn’t the first time this type of financial crisis has happened in my lifetime.  Judging by the fact that the last one was less severe I am predicting that we will probably see at least double the corporate shenanigans as 2008.
    Can you explain how the financial tricksters that qualify for the SBA (businesses under 500 people) will screw you on this one?  Just curious.  And are you saying 2% of them will screw you, or all of them? 

    You said earlier you are out of work now.  Are you saying that you will not qualify for the one time check nor the unemployment insurance?  If your complaint is that it's not in your bank account now, well no one can practically help that.  Three weeks is the estimated time.  And no landlord can evict you in any state that I know of that quickly, especially when basically all of the civil courts right now are closed.  And you can't evict without a civil judgment. 


  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,048
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Yes I have read the relief act.  Not everyone will get relief.  Unfortunately I don’t have a financial cushion to help anyone else out or I would.  I do have like 4 rolls of TP that I would like to donate. Additionally that money isn’t going to be available by rent day.  Again this bailout is enamoring people  because there is a very small individual benefit to some, all the while the financial tricksters will get their hands on those interest free loans through loop holes and come out ahead when and if we ever go back to normal.  Loads of real estate that is defaulted and small businesses will be snapped up by predatory investors looking at this crisis as a business opportunity.  This isn’t the first time this type of financial crisis has happened in my lifetime.  Judging by the fact that the last one was less severe I am predicting that we will probably see at least double the corporate shenanigans as 2008.
    Can you explain how the financial tricksters that qualify for the SBA (businesses under 500 people) will screw you on this one?  Just curious.  And are you saying 2% of them will screw you, or all of them? 

    You said earlier you are out of work now.  Are you saying that you will not qualify for the one time check nor the unemployment insurance?  If your complaint is that it's not in your bank account now, well no one can practically help that.  Three weeks is the estimated time.  And no landlord can evict you in any state that I know of that quickly, especially when basically all of the civil courts right now are closed.  And you can't evict without a civil judgment. 


    “On the plus side, it would force corporations that obtain emergency loans from the federal government to forgo dividends and stock buybacks and limit the compensation of their senior executives. But the bill also contains a clause that allows Steve Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary, to waive these requirements if he deems it “necessary to protect the interests of the Federal Government.” And there is a separate provision of the bill that appears to have been specifically designed to help Boeing, a highly profitable company that brought its financial troubles on itself by building an unsafe airplane, the Boeing 737 Max.

    In another disappointment, the authors of the bill ignored calls for the government to give the taxpayers an equity stake in the companies they rescue, which is what the Reconstruction Finance Corporation did during the Great Depression. The bailouts will be provided in the form of loans rather than stock, and many of these loans will be provided through the Federal Reserve. Supposedly, there will be real-time oversight from an independent board and an Inspector General. But it’s far from clear how this will work in practice.” The New Yorker



    I’m doing more research. Like I’ve said before I am ok to weather the storm for a couple months.  I am more worried about friends and others. And also worried that this is another disaster in which the rich will get richer.


    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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