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4/20/02- "All You Fools, Who Sing Just Like Him". Who is Ed referring to?

HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,907
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in this Layne tribute, who is Ed talking about? I kind of assumed it might be Scott Stapp, but he always got compared to Ed. Maybe Travis Meeks (Days of the New)?
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,907
    edited August 2017
    forgot the obvious......Sully Erna. Band name from a AIC song, stole their logo.........even did an acoustic EP like Sap. I actually liked it when it came out, but it just seemed so contrived. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited August 2017
    I always figured days of the new

    i wish 4/20/02 was a better tribute but the "in the moment" feel it captures is incredible 

    edit--forgot godsmack existed
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  • BlredyellowBlredyellow Posts: 843
    A lot of lame, fake ripoff bands from that era. 
  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,835
    Blredyellow said:
    A lot of lame, fake ripoff bands from that era. 
    I believe this as well
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,972
    Barry Manilow and Engelbert Humperdinck.
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  • EchoesOnMarsEchoesOnMars Reading, Pennsylvania Posts: 422
    Bands like Godsmack 
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    Philadelphia 2016 (Night 2)
    Upper Darby 2016 (Night 2) (Temple of the Dog)

  • jnikojniko Posts: 305
    I think he's referring to addicts and is calling them losers. Sings is a metaphor not literal.  
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    jniko said:
    I think he's referring to addicts and is calling them losers. Sings is a metaphor not literal.  
    That would be a no
  • D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,953
    Paula Abdul
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    2005.....Hamilton
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    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,554
    He was referring to me. 
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  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric MayhDr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    Isn't Mike playing with Sully in the near future? lol
    looking to hear of the earth
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    I believe during the promotional work for Lost Dogs, that it was heavily suggested that it was intended for the Godsmack singer and not Scott Stapp- who got his lashing during Green Disease.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,164
    ledvedderman said:
    I believe during the promotional work for Lost Dogs, that it was heavily suggested that it was intended for the Godsmack singer and not Scott Stapp- who got his lashing during Green Disease.
    Got his lasjing during Green Disease? What?
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    ledvedderman said:
    I believe during the promotional work for Lost Dogs, that it was heavily suggested that it was intended for the Godsmack singer and not Scott Stapp- who got his lashing during Green Disease.
    Got his lasjing during Green Disease? What?
    "there's a stowaway with my throat" as well as the C-R-E-E-D intro to the song from a couple of shows in 2003.
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  • disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    I member Creed Disease from '03! Good times...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,907
    ledvedderman said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    ledvedderman said:
    I believe during the promotional work for Lost Dogs, that it was heavily suggested that it was intended for the Godsmack singer and not Scott Stapp- who got his lashing during Green Disease.
    Got his lasjing during Green Disease? What?
    "there's a stowaway with my throat" as well as the C-R-E-E-D intro to the song from a couple of shows in 2003.
    wow, never picked up on that. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Yeah man. I'm trying to remember what show it was that it debuted at in 2003. I want to say it was in the southern midwest. Little Rock, OKC, Dallas. Not even sure those cities had shows but that's what's standing out to me. 
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  • TyTy Posts: 1,007
    Wasn't he saying "G.R.E.E.D."? 
    3 Doors Down? Creed and Nickelback, for sure. Matchbox Twenty, defo. Theory Of A Dead Man? Candlebox? Collective Soul were bad at it. Puddle Of Mudd. Lifehouse. Godsmack, of course. 
    Fuck, these bands suck. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,133
    Yes, he says G R E E D but some shows he used a C. 
  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,819
    I think you are all conflating some things.  The stowaway line is an allusion to people who try to speak for you and the use of any "c-r-e-e-d" was about religion, not about afterthought of the century band.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,133
    edited August 2017
    Ed sang at some shows in 2003:  "his band's called creed" in that stowaway section.  It was definitely a reference to the band Creed.
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  • disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    edited August 2017
    https://youtu.be/CvGlaXL6Aog

    About a minute in: "This band's called Creed"

    At the end is without question C-R-E-E-D
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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    ledvedderman said:
    Yeah man. I'm trying to remember what show it was that it debuted at in 2003. I want to say it was in the southern midwest. Little Rock, OKC, Dallas. Not even sure those cities had shows but that's what's standing out to me. 

    He did it at the Charlotte 2003 show. not sure if that was the first time.

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  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,819
    disilluzion said:
    https://youtu.be/CvGlaXL6Aog

    About a minute in: "This band's called Creed"

    At the end is without question C-R-E-E-D
    Well, there is really no disputing that, I had blacked that out.  I still think overall, the song and the line stow-away have nothing to do with this, it was just a riff in the moment.  I think this was perhaps around the same time that Scott Stapp was having his first break down and rambling stuff about Ed.  So in that light it would make sense. 

    But overall green disease is about something entirely different.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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