Hey Guys.......I got a cheap LT-LP60 audio technica...people say this can turntable can trash record

JP33JP33 Posts: 1,348
edited July 2017 in The Porch
anybody know about this.....I guess that factory set it up as high tracking force...u cannot change the weight.......will this hurt your records?........Thanks.....Joshua
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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,134
    edited July 2017
    Heavy tracking force won't necessarily damage your records as long as the stylus is designed accordingly. 

    Every stylus should have published specs with a minimum and maximum tracking force. As a rule of thumb, don't exceed the maximum and all should be well. Also be careful not to go below the minimum. Doing so might cause the stylus to come out of the groove and skid across the record.

    You should be able to find the recommended tracking force for your stylus pretty easily. If it's not mentioned in the paperwork that came with your turntable, calling Audio-Technica is the next step. 

    Good luck and congrats on your new turntable.

    Edit: As mentioned below, it looks like your turntable has no tracking force adjustment. What I wrote above doesn't apply to the AT LP-60 but it's appropriate for turntables with adjustable tracking force.  My bad. 
    Post edited by dudeman on
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  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,066
    You shouldn't have any problems. AT is a good company and puts out a decent product. Could you go bigger and better yes, but at the end of the day you have nothing to worry about. Your records are not in any danger or risk of damage. These turntable's are a p-mount and are already pre set and adjusted for weight and balance. This is why your turntable is not set up for weight adjustment. Hopefully this brings a little piece of mind while you are spinning and enjoying your records. 
  • JP33JP33 Posts: 1,348
    dudeman said:
    Heavy tracking force won't necessarily damage your records as long as the stylus is designed accordingly. 

    Every stylus should have published specs with a minimum and maximum tracking force. As a rule of thumb, don't exceed the maximum and all should be well. 

    You should be able to find the recommend tracking force for your stylus pretty easily. If it's not mentioned in the paperwork that came with your turntable, calling Audio-Technica is the next step. 

    Good luck and congrats on your new turntable. 
    Ray J. T. said:
    You shouldn't have any problems. AT is a good company and puts out a decent product. Could you go bigger and better yes, but at the end of the day you have nothing to worry about. Your records are not in any danger or risk of damage. These turntable's are a p-mount and are already pre set and adjusted for weight and balance. This is why your turntable is not set up for weight adjustment. Hopefully this brings a little piece of mind while you are spinning and enjoying your records. 

    dudeman said:
    Heavy tracking force won't necessarily damage your records as long as the stylus is designed accordingly. 

    Every stylus should have published specs with a minimum and maximum tracking force. As a rule of thumb, don't exceed the maximum and all should be well. 

    You should be able to find the recommend tracking force for your stylus pretty easily. If it's not mentioned in the paperwork that came with your turntable, calling Audio-Technica is the next step. 

    Good luck and congrats on your new turntable. 

    dudeman said:
    Heavy tracking force won't necessarily damage your records as long as the stylus is designed accordingly. 

    Every stylus should have published specs with a minimum and maximum tracking force. As a rule of thumb, don't exceed the maximum and all should be well. 

    You should be able to find the recommend tracking force for your stylus pretty easily. If it's not mentioned in the paperwork that came with your turntable, calling Audio-Technica is the next step. 

    Good luck and congrats on your new turntable. 


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  • EB218946EB218946 Posts: 3,999
    I bought this model like 5 years ago and it's been great.  No issues or damage to any of my vinyl.  
  • disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    I have this same model in my office and I'm not too worried. 

    I've noticed that people claim sub-300 dollar turntables will damage records but I have never seen any proof of this.

    Also remember that back in the day when vinyl was the only game in town, people didn't care about all of this stuff and those records are still going strong today. 

    My two cents anyway.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Wow I'm thinking of getting this exact same thing but people say these entry level Vinyl's are crap? What's better a cheap vinyl player + expensive speakers or shit speakers but 500 dollar vinyl player?
  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,066
    Brisk. said:
    Wow I'm thinking of getting this exact same thing but people say these entry level Vinyl's are crap? What's better a cheap vinyl player + expensive speakers or shit speakers but 500 dollar vinyl player?

    Can you go better on the turntable? Sure. However I would not be worried about this TT putting your record collection at any risk of damage. If your concern is to get the most out of your sound, then I would suggest first looking into a quality amp and or pre-amp if needed and quality speakers. There are always a few things that you can modify on this turntable to optimize your output. First and most important being a good quality stylus. You can later worry about upgrading the TT itself, but I think for the most part you will be satisfied with what you will get out of your record collection with this. Hope this helps.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Ray J. T. said:
    Brisk. said:
    Wow I'm thinking of getting this exact same thing but people say these entry level Vinyl's are crap? What's better a cheap vinyl player + expensive speakers or shit speakers but 500 dollar vinyl player?

    Can you go better on the turntable? Sure. However I would not be worried about this TT putting your record collection at any risk of damage. If your concern is to get the most out of your sound, then I would suggest first looking into a quality amp and or pre-amp if needed and quality speakers. There are always a few things that you can modify on this turntable to optimize your output. First and most important being a good quality stylus. You can later worry about upgrading the TT itself, but I think for the most part you will be satisfied with what you will get out of your record collection with this. Hope this helps.

    Thank you. I also have a Fiio X3ii. This is a 'high res' music player with a built in DAC/AMP. Can it be used at all with a Vinyl?
  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,066
    Brisk. said:
    Ray J. T. said:
    Brisk. said:
    Wow I'm thinking of getting this exact same thing but people say these entry level Vinyl's are crap? What's better a cheap vinyl player + expensive speakers or shit speakers but 500 dollar vinyl player?

    Can you go better on the turntable? Sure. However I would not be worried about this TT putting your record collection at any risk of damage. If your concern is to get the most out of your sound, then I would suggest first looking into a quality amp and or pre-amp if needed and quality speakers. There are always a few things that you can modify on this turntable to optimize your output. First and most important being a good quality stylus. You can later worry about upgrading the TT itself, but I think for the most part you will be satisfied with what you will get out of your record collection with this. Hope this helps.

    Thank you. I also have a Fiio X3ii. This is a 'high res' music player with a built in DAC/AMP. Can it be used at all with a Vinyl?

    To what capacity?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I have this same model in my office and I'm not too worried. 

    I've noticed that people claim sub-300 dollar turntables will damage records but I have never seen any proof of this.

    Also remember that back in the day when vinyl was the only game in town, people didn't care about all of this stuff and those records are still going strong today. 

    My two cents anyway.
    Can confirm. I'm an old guy and was in high school in the 70's, and vinyl had little to do with being an audiophile, and everything to do with it being the primary medium for music distribution. Unless every other component of your system is high end, the AT turntable is just fine. Growing up, my friends and I played records every day all day, sometimes on pretty shitty equipment, and the records kept on playing. This new era of 180g, colored, limited edition, multiple LP, blah blah blah releases is fun for collectors and may get you thinking about $$$ for a turntable, but if you're just trying to play the records and enjoy the music, do it on whatever equipment you have and don't get caught up in the turntable or component race. There's plenty of enjoyment to be had with sub-$300 turntables, audio snobs notwithstanding. Let the records play!
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,303
    edited July 2017
    I have this same model in my office and I'm not too worried. 

    I've noticed that people claim sub-300 dollar turntables will damage records but I have never seen any proof of this.

    Also remember that back in the day when vinyl was the only game in town, people didn't care about all of this stuff and those records are still going strong today. 

    My two cents anyway.
    I mostly agree with that, but there are a few SUPER low-end TTs that have been shown to actually do damage. But I'm talking about some of those all-in-one portable things with speakers built in, like those Crosleys that cost $100 or whatever. I've never heard of an actual turntable that you hook up to a receiver doing any damage, assuming it's set up properly (and there are some all-in-one TTs that don't do damage either. It depends on the model).
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Ray J. T. said:
    Brisk. said:
    Ray J. T. said:
    Brisk. said:
    Wow I'm thinking of getting this exact same thing but people say these entry level Vinyl's are crap? What's better a cheap vinyl player + expensive speakers or shit speakers but 500 dollar vinyl player?

    Can you go better on the turntable? Sure. However I would not be worried about this TT putting your record collection at any risk of damage. If your concern is to get the most out of your sound, then I would suggest first looking into a quality amp and or pre-amp if needed and quality speakers. There are always a few things that you can modify on this turntable to optimize your output. First and most important being a good quality stylus. You can later worry about upgrading the TT itself, but I think for the most part you will be satisfied with what you will get out of your record collection with this. Hope this helps.

    Thank you. I also have a Fiio X3ii. This is a 'high res' music player with a built in DAC/AMP. Can it be used at all with a Vinyl?

    To what capacity?
    As an AMP?
  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,066
    Brisk. said:
    Ray J. T. said:
    Brisk. said:
    Ray J. T. said:
    Brisk. said:
    Wow I'm thinking of getting this exact same thing but people say these entry level Vinyl's are crap? What's better a cheap vinyl player + expensive speakers or shit speakers but 500 dollar vinyl player?

    Can you go better on the turntable? Sure. However I would not be worried about this TT putting your record collection at any risk of damage. If your concern is to get the most out of your sound, then I would suggest first looking into a quality amp and or pre-amp if needed and quality speakers. There are always a few things that you can modify on this turntable to optimize your output. First and most important being a good quality stylus. You can later worry about upgrading the TT itself, but I think for the most part you will be satisfied with what you will get out of your record collection with this. Hope this helps.

    Thank you. I also have a Fiio X3ii. This is a 'high res' music player with a built in DAC/AMP. Can it be used at all with a Vinyl?

    To what capacity?
    As an AMP?
    I don't think so.
  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,066
    If you already have a receiver, then you should be fine. Look to see if your receiver is equipped to play "phono" if not you may want to look into a quality preamp to connect to your reciever and turntable. 
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Ah ok thanks.

    What is the point of the USB ports on a vinyl? My Fiio I could plug in there and the sound would run out of it or it's not that smart and only sound will come out of the RCA?
  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,066
    Brisk. said:
    Ah ok thanks.

    What is the point of the USB ports on a vinyl? My Fiio I could plug in there and the sound would run out of it or it's not that smart and only sound will come out of the RCA?
    I know some turntable's are equipped with USB cables or ports. I know that you can connect these to your PC/Mac and with recording software you can record your collection on to digital files. Take your music with you. 
  • epieepie Posts: 297
    I have had this model for a few years now. No frills basic model of good quality.  I have been very happy with the performance.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,365
    I mean, your records are degrading a little at a time anyway, even if you're all set up nicely. 
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    I'm looking at getting some new speakers. Nothing fancy mind you. I've done a stack of research and got 2 recommendations. One passive setup and the other active.

    The costing for the 2 setups are more or less the same (approximately $160). Any ideas if Passive speaker + amp is going to sound way better than Active? For my laptop and vinyl player?
  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,066
    Brisk. said:
    I'm looking at getting some new speakers. Nothing fancy mind you. I've done a stack of research and got 2 recommendations. One passive setup and the other active.

    The costing for the 2 setups are more or less the same (approximately $160). Any ideas if Passive speaker + amp is going to sound way better than Active? For my laptop and vinyl player?

    I personally have played and own all types of setups and can tell you that I personally prefer going the passive route.
    At the end of the day this is going to come down to personal preference and budget. This is by no means to say that there are not some very good active setups available. Hope this helps.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    edited July 2017
    Ray J. T. said:
    Brisk. said:
    I'm looking at getting some new speakers. Nothing fancy mind you. I've done a stack of research and got 2 recommendations. One passive setup and the other active.

    The costing for the 2 setups are more or less the same (approximately $160). Any ideas if Passive speaker + amp is going to sound way better than Active? For my laptop and vinyl player?

    I personally have played and own all types of setups and can tell you that I personally prefer going the passive route.
    At the end of the day this is going to come down to personal preference and budget. This is by no means to say that there are not some very good active setups available. Hope this helps.

    I seem to be getting this impression....I've decided when I got some spare £££ to get Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers with SMSL SA-36A amp with an AT LP-60
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