I dont get this (about tickets)

Bryant

I dont understand all this I here about how the 10c should change the senority so the people with higher numbers can sit up front. I dont get this I am not saying I am a bigger fan than anyone else, but the rules are the longer you have been in the fan club the better your seats are. that should be the end of it. I think all this talk is coming from people that have high numbers, so I say to you get over it and thank god that the 10c does this for us and be happy with what you get. You dont see me in here crying because someone has a lower number than me. I have been in the fan club since 1995 and I have met a bunch of fans with lower numbers than me and we are all greatfull for that chance to see the best band in the world up close. Us oldtimers have no envy with each other and maybe you new guys can do the same. Just enjoy that you get a first crack at tickets.

Cosmo

Bryant wrote:

I dont understand all this I here about how the 10c should change the senority so the people with higher numbers can sit up front. I dont get this I am not saying I am a bigger fan than anyone else, but the rules are the longer you have been in the fan club the better your seats are. that should be the end of it. I think all this talk is coming from people that have high numbers, so I say to you get over it and thank god that the 10c does this for us and be happy with what you get. You dont see me in here crying because someone has a lower number than me. I have been in the fan club since 1995 and I have met a bunch of fans with lower numbers than me and we are all greatfull for that chance to see the best band in the world up close. Us oldtimers have no envy with each other and maybe you new guys can do the same. Just enjoy that you get a first crack at tickets.

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I hear ya. Seniority is a good thing.
Unless you are a whiney little bitch with a stong belief in entitlement.
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Basically, if you don't believe your higher numbered seat is worth the price of the membership fee... simply quit renewing. And if you say you can get better seats from TicketMaster or scalper... then just fucking do it and quit complaining, right?
Personally, I'd like to see a modification in the procedure that will give everyone a better chance at those great seats... but, I do not believe tantrums and crying should be rewarded.

Poncier

More importantly than seniorty rewarding long time members, it helps keep scalpers/brokers from being 10club members. I think that may be the key reason the club maintains it. A scalper would have had to have maintained active membership for 13 or more years to guarantee first 10 row seats.

Anon

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StickmanJam

Easy for one to critisize those who want better seats, when you yourself have been in the club since '95.

I've never complained about my 10c seating (hell, I had floor seats in Boston 06). But don't critisize those who just want a closer peak at the band, especially if you yourself have had that chance since 1995.

Pegasus

well.. I listen to the boot for Grand Rapid, or the GA shows...and that makes the argument for at least introducing some non-seniority element to the seating.

sorry but there's too many complacent people in front that feel THEY are entitled just for paying $10 once a year (though I met some that earned their way at GAs too and I have no doubt rock out in their front row seats!).

the minority that have great seats on seniority might not like it (and they ARE a minority), but I have no doubts the Grand Rapids 'error' was intentional, and the last 2 years GA shows might encourage the mixing up (I don't think it is necessary to get completely rid of seniority).

we'll see..

Pegasus

Poncier wrote:

More importantly than seniorty rewarding long time members, it helps keep scalpers/brokers from being 10club members. I think that may be the key reason the club maintains it. A scalper would have had to have maintained active membership for 13 or more years to guarantee first 10 row seats.

if the non-seniority allocation is random, the scalpers can't know before the day where they are anyway...making it very difficult to scalp..

homeratbat

well i have a friend who has been in since '92! i joined in '98...she gets 2nd row i am more toward the middle...i dont cry cause i get tix further back! she has been in since '92 after all...and we live in a city that didnt get a pj concert for a few years due to the ticketmaster deal..people who suffered through a lot of those no tour years and STILL paid each and every year out of loyality to the band SHOULD be rewarded plain and simple!

JD Sal

Poncier wrote:

More importantly than seniorty rewarding long time members, it helps keep scalpers/brokers from being 10club members. I think that may be the key reason the club maintains it. A scalper would have had to have maintained active membership for 13 or more years to guarantee first 10 row seats.

Scalping is not an issue with 10c seats, regardless of how seating is allocated because you are forced to pick up tickets at the venue on the day of the show. This is not conducive to most scalping practices.

And I'd love to see the seniority system tweaked. It doesn't mean that the person with the lowest # will have a nosebleed seat up in the rafters, but maybe they'll have 5th row instead of 1st. Anyone remember the Grand Rapids show ticket mixup? The energy from that show was unbelievable. Hard to fathom that the band doesn't get tired of the same faces up front for every show, some just standing there all lackluster since they've been to multiple shows on the tour and probably heard every song. It'd be a refreshing change to get some new blood up front.

homeratbat

Pegasus wrote:

if the non-seniority allocation is random, the scalpers can't know before the day where they are anyway...making it very difficult to scalp..

harder but not as hard as you may think! these people have a lot of contacts at venues this would make it a lot easier to call in those contacts...crazy idea but leave well enough alone!

PJfanPA

Another rumored tour and the bitching has already begun!

homeratbat

JD Sal wrote:

Scalping is not an issue with 10c seats, regardless of how seating is allocated because you are forced to pick up tickets at the venue on the day of the show. This is not conducive to most scalping practices.

And I'd love to see the seniority system tweaked. It doesn't mean that the person with the lowest # will have a nosebleed seat up in the rafters, but maybe they'll have 5th row instead of 1st. Anyone remember the Grand Rapids show ticket mixup? The energy from that show was unbelievable. Hard to fathom that the band doesn't get tired of the same faces up front for every show, some just standing there all lackluster since they've been to multiple shows on the tour and probably heard every song. It'd be a refreshing change to get some new blood up front.

but what about the long time fan club member who goes his/her local show(s) only and gets those great seats! they should pay some sort of penalty cause some people have been there over 10 times?! again i believe just leave well enough alone!

hakhead

No complaints; I've been in the tenclub since 99. I've been having great tickets and sometimes shitty ones.

I think that after the 20th row, they should request the tickets at the side of the stage instead of having people going all the way in the back. Trust me, 26th row, when there's a 6,5 feet tall guy in front of you, it kind of suck!!!

NewJPage

they're probably clinton supporters...

skere26

I think the main argument for mixing it up is that we have reached a point of capacity in that if you were to join today, (and 4 years ago for that matter) you will never get to see pearl jam up close with the current system; just too many people.

Fighting Hellfish

There is no way to make everyone happy. No matter what they do, people will bitch.

manhattan

Why don't people with higher numbers make friends with the low-number people. Then they would probably get invited to sit up front once in a while...

just a thought...

LeilaMoonTurtle

wow
u r the prophet!

manhattan wrote:

Why don't people with higher numbers make friends with the low-number people. Then they would probably get invited to sit up front once in a while...

just a thought...

Kraven

I think the best way to do it is by proximity to the venue and then by seniority, have like the first whatever amount of rows for the people who are within a certain mileage and then after that restart the seniority. It makes sense that if you're from Chicago, then you should get the best seats in Chicago, its your town, but if your from Chicago and go to San Diego, the San Diego people should have first knock at the first couple of rows. Its complicated but it would solve a lot of bitching, and its pretty even, unless of course you are from the south and haven't seen a show in 5 years...

wazzukick

What about a system where you are allowed up to say 3-5 shows using ticketing w/ seniority the way it currently is? This satisfies the diehards who have been a member since the early 90's. At the same time it isn't the same people in the front row for EVERY show and allows those who haven't had the opportunity to see PJ up close the chance to move up 5-10 rows.
Also with this system if a person so chooses to go to more than 5 shows, they will still be allowed 10 club privileges with their tickets issued in seniority order after the above mentioned system of ticketing has been fulfilled.
I have been a member since '98 so my seats are usually pretty good, but I can see where a member from 1992 can bitch as well as a member from 2007 can bitch. I think my idea is a fair compromise to all and would definitely lead to less bitching. As we all know there will always be people that aren't happy no matter what you do unless you are sitting on a stool next to Eddie on the stage.

Speakers

skere26 wrote:

I think the main argument for mixing it up is that we have reached a point of capacity in that if you were to join today, (and 4 years ago for that matter) you will never get to see pearl jam up close with the current system; just too many people.

I invested in gold yesterday. My grandpa invested a long time ago. I deserve to have as much money as him. It isn't fair!!! Waaahhhhhhhhhh

Poncier

JD Sal wrote:

Scalping is not an issue with 10c seats, regardless of how seating is allocated because you are forced to pick up tickets at the venue on the day of the show. This is not conducive to most scalping practices.

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That was instituted to aid in scalping prevention, pre-2000 your tix were mailed to you.
But its quite easy for a scalper to pick up his tix at will call, head out to the street and scalp them, so will call does not prevent scalping, it hampers it to an extent.

pjl44

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

If a person who joins today has as much a chance at front row as someone who's been in the 10C 3, 5, 10, or 20 years...
The number of memberships skyrocket (scalpers or otherwise)...
Thus making it exponentially more difficult to get 10C tickets AT ALL (it's become more difficult as it is)...
And you're left fighting with TM and scalpers for marginal seats (the sheer volume of tickets the 10C gets blocked off is just insane)...

The point...careful what you wish for.

pjfan31

I only just joined 10c about 2months ago and by no means do I expect favours. Do I want front row seats???? hell yeah, but when some of you guys were joining up in 1995 i was in year 4 learning about triangles.....

Now I thought for years (before i had a visa or anything) that 10c was a random lottery, buy your tickets, turn up and you may have goodies you may have baddies. Then I found out it was seniority and I was hesitant because of course I want good sets so I was weighing up whether I should be purchasing mine through 10c or ticketek.

So In conclusion, while I would like good seats, those who have been with 10c the longest should be rewarded with good seats, while with me, who was 9 in 1995 should be exempt and given front row sets as well (jokes:D)

pjfan31

wazzukick wrote:

What about a system where you are allowed up to say 3-5 shows using ticketing w/ seniority the way it currently is? This satisfies the diehards who have been a member since the early 90's. At the same time it isn't the same people in the front row for EVERY show and allows those who haven't had the opportunity to see PJ up close the chance to move up 5-10 rows.
Also with this system if a person so chooses to go to more than 5 shows, they will still be allowed 10 club privileges with their tickets issued in seniority order after the above mentioned system of ticketing has been fulfilled.
I have been a member since '98 so my seats are usually pretty good, but I can see where a member from 1992 can bitch as well as a member from 2007 can bitch. I think my idea is a fair compromise to all and would definitely lead to less bitching. As we all know there will always be people that aren't happy no matter what you do unless you are sitting on a stool next to Eddie on the stage.

Well said, I agree

simpleman

for a mere $20 a year, you are guaranteed an opportunity to buy tickets. That's fucking awesome.

PearlJain

I just joined 10C in January. Although I have been a fan much longer (like many) - I could have joined earlier - but didn't. I do however, admire those whom have been members from the beginning - or at least much, MUCH longer than myself. I certainly do not think I deserve better seats than you. I just think it would be great if we could all just consider each other friends - even when my future potential 10C seats are really bad! I would just love sharing the same space with Pearl Jam and ALL of their fans!

evenflowman

I dont bithc in 05 i got shitty seats and i was first in line at tm then i joined the 10c and i got about 20 rows back at the next gorge show I LOV THE 10 C

tkepearljamn

hakhead wrote:

No complaints; I've been in the tenclub since 99. I've been having great tickets and sometimes shitty ones.

I think that after the 20th row, they should request the tickets at the side of the stage instead of having people going all the way in the back. Trust me, 26th row, when there's a 6,5 feet tall guy in front of you, it kind of suck!!!

I asked if you wanted me to scoot..!

evenflowman

simpleman wrote:

for a mere $20 a year, you are guaranteed an opportunity to buy tickets. That's fucking awesome.

A FUCKIN men u know ihave been saying that for years I have seen other clubs and u barely get a fcuking newsletter for 60 bucks a year we get tickets limieted vinyls and best of all posters that we could never get other wise QUIT crying everyone

_Hockey_Mom

I have a higher 10C number than most, and yeah, of course I'd love an opportunity to have front row at some point, but in all honesty, I'm just thrilled to get to go and see the greatest band play some tunes. My very first concert I was able to attend was in '05 and although I had been a 10C member for a while, I wasn't able to get any 10C tix... got some from ticketbastard and had the greatest seats, first row on the back corner of the open stage... when Ed came around the back to see those of us back there, he was maybe 8 feet from me and passed my his tambourine... so fu(k... I'm not doing any complaining at all!!! And, hate me or not... Yes, I was one of the lucky few that were able to score 10C EV tix, so I am happy as a pig in s#it!!! Love to all!