10 questions for those who feel the US should be out of the Mideast

pjhawks

so every time there is a terrorist attack the discussions always end up placing blame on the US and our role in the Mideast.  So I am curious as how people would answer the questions i have posed below.   Admittedly I don't fully grasp what would happen if we pulled out but i'm curious to know what some of you think, especially about question 5.  so if the US pulled completely out of the Mideast and was to stay out of any conflicts there...

1 - how many countries would a civil war and/or coup occur in?
2 - how many more atrocities would certain leaders inflict on their own people there?
3 - how may countries would be safe from the neighbors?
4 - if the region was to become more unstable how many more refugees would look to leave and where would they go?
5 - If the US pulled out wouldn't it be safe to assume one of the other of the world's military powers would move to have their strength and control there instead of US?
6 - if you believe the answer to question 5 is Yes, and you'd have to be really naive to not think the answer is yes, which country and leader would you prefer to have that power? Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, one of the current Mideast countries and it's leader, or someone else?
7 - if one of the countries above had control of the Mideast how would the region be better off on a humanitarian level?  would their people be better or worse off?
8 - Knowing how important the Mideast oil is to the world economy how would one of those countries and it's leader being in charge affect the global economy? more positive, more negative, no change?
9 - if the US was not there who and what would the islamic terrorists use as the scapegoat for their attacks?
10 - how long would it take before the world asked us to come back to help strengthen the region? 

HughFreakingDillon

if the US pulled out completely all of the above would result in pure chaos. the problem was the US government meddling for supposed humanitarian reasons in the first place when we all know that was all economics and global control. 

unsung

11.  Where in the Constitution is the Federal government authorized to be World Police?

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

11.  Where is the Constitution is the Federal government authorized to be World Police?

wow. we agree. 

PJfanwillneverleave1

That is a lot of questions to be answered by a country who wholeheartedly in the press despises their President.

As to your number 5, allies are strong.

brianlux

Not to dabble too much on the train's political car, but I do believe (not feel) that we won't pull out until the resources are depleted at which all of those concerns become moot.

rgambs

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

That is a lot of questions to be answered by a country who wholeheartedly in the press despises their President.

As to your number 5, allies are strong.

Councillor: Objection, irrelevant trolling.
Judge: Objection Sustained.

unsung

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

11.  Where is the Constitution is the Federal government authorized to be World Police?

wow. we agree. 

Coming to your senses I see.  

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

11.  Where is the Constitution is the Federal government authorized to be World Police?

wow. we agree. 

Coming to your senses I see.  

That didn't last long. 

unsung

LOL

pjhawks

so no one can answer the questions i posed?  so much said about the consequences of the US being there but no one wants to give thoughts or opinions on what  happens if we are not?  interesting....

HughFreakingDillon

pjhawks said:

so no one can answer the questions i posed?  so much said about the consequences of the US being there but no one wants to give thoughts or opinions on what  happens if we are not?  interesting....

none of them are answerable questions. most, if not all, are based on so many variables, one can't possibly conclude anything. 

except 9 and 10. both of those are silly. 

tbergs

pjhawks said:

so no one can answer the questions i posed?  so much said about the consequences of the US being there but no one wants to give thoughts or opinions on what  happens if we are not?  interesting....

Honestly, it would take a lot to pin down answers to so many questions, especially the ones you posed. It's easy for me to send back a few lengthy answers a day on here, but looking at you're list is like a HS student looking at the homework for the day and seeing they have 10 optional essay questions to answer. Ain't gonna happen. I can spend my time far better ways.

mcgruff10

1 - how many countries would a civil war and/or coup occur in? 1
2 - how many more atrocities would certain leaders inflict on their own people there? 3
3 - how may countries would be safe from the neighbors? 6
4 - if the region was to become more unstable how many more refugees would look to leave and where would they go? 200, djibouti 
5 - If the US pulled out wouldn't it be safe to assume one of the other of the world's military powers would move to have their strength and control there instead of US? no
6 - if you believe the answer to question 5 is Yes, and you'd have to be really naive to not think the answer is yes, which country and leader would you prefer to have that power? Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, one of the current Mideast countries and it's leader, or someone else? no one is that dumb.
7 - if one of the countries above had control of the Mideast how would the region be better off on a humanitarian level?  would their people be better or worse off? worse
8 - Knowing how important the Mideast oil is to the world economy how would one of those countries and it's leader being in charge affect the global economy? more positive, more negative, no change? no change
9 - if the US was not there who and what would the islamic terrorists use as the scapegoat for their attacks? israel
10 - how long would it take before the world asked us to come back to help strengthen the region?   tuesday


seriously, how can anyone answer any of those questions? lol (except for number 9, always blame israel lol)

unsung

pjhawks said:

so no one can answer the questions i posed?  so much said about the consequences of the US being there but no one wants to give thoughts or opinions on what  happens if we are not?  interesting....

My answer is that I don't care.  We are not supposed to be the World Police.

tbergs

mcgruff10 said:

1 - how many countries would a civil war and/or coup occur in? 1
2 - how many more atrocities would certain leaders inflict on their own people there? 3
3 - how may countries would be safe from the neighbors? 6
4 - if the region was to become more unstable how many more refugees would look to leave and where would they go? 200, djibouti 
5 - If the US pulled out wouldn't it be safe to assume one of the other of the world's military powers would move to have their strength and control there instead of US? no
6 - if you believe the answer to question 5 is Yes, and you'd have to be really naive to not think the answer is yes, which country and leader would you prefer to have that power? Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, one of the current Mideast countries and it's leader, or someone else? no one is that dumb.
7 - if one of the countries above had control of the Mideast how would the region be better off on a humanitarian level?  would their people be better or worse off? worse
8 - Knowing how important the Mideast oil is to the world economy how would one of those countries and it's leader being in charge affect the global economy? more positive, more negative, no change? no change
9 - if the US was not there who and what would the islamic terrorists use as the scapegoat for their attacks? israel
10 - how long would it take before the world asked us to come back to help strengthen the region?   tuesday


seriously, how can anyone answer any of those questions? lol (except for number 9, always blame israel lol)

Haha! Got a good chuckle out of this. It's like you were doing a Mad Lib.

pjhawks

mcgruff10 said:

1 - how many countries would a civil war and/or coup occur in? 1
2 - how many more atrocities would certain leaders inflict on their own people there? 3
3 - how may countries would be safe from the neighbors? 6
4 - if the region was to become more unstable how many more refugees would look to leave and where would they go? 200, djibouti 
5 - If the US pulled out wouldn't it be safe to assume one of the other of the world's military powers would move to have their strength and control there instead of US? no
6 - if you believe the answer to question 5 is Yes, and you'd have to be really naive to not think the answer is yes, which country and leader would you prefer to have that power? Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, one of the current Mideast countries and it's leader, or someone else? no one is that dumb.
7 - if one of the countries above had control of the Mideast how would the region be better off on a humanitarian level?  would their people be better or worse off? worse
8 - Knowing how important the Mideast oil is to the world economy how would one of those countries and it's leader being in charge affect the global economy? more positive, more negative, no change? no change
9 - if the US was not there who and what would the islamic terrorists use as the scapegoat for their attacks? israel
10 - how long would it take before the world asked us to come back to help strengthen the region?   tuesday


seriously, how can anyone answer any of those questions? lol (except for number 9, always blame israel lol)

seriously you think if the US pulled out Putin or worse wouldn't try to seize control or influence that region? that's just delusional.

yes I know many of the questions can't be answered but I just get sick of hearing people constantly harp that we meddle there which causes all the world's problems.  That area would be a bigger shit storm and the global economy would suffer worse consequences if we pulled out and ignored that region.  

bootlegger10

For #5, how has it worked out for the USA taking control of the region?  It hasn't made us stronger.   Letting China or Russia take over would probably weaken and distract them like it has done to the USA.

PJ_Soul

pjhawks said:

mcgruff10 said:

1 - how many countries would a civil war and/or coup occur in? 1
2 - how many more atrocities would certain leaders inflict on their own people there? 3
3 - how may countries would be safe from the neighbors? 6
4 - if the region was to become more unstable how many more refugees would look to leave and where would they go? 200, djibouti 
5 - If the US pulled out wouldn't it be safe to assume one of the other of the world's military powers would move to have their strength and control there instead of US? no
6 - if you believe the answer to question 5 is Yes, and you'd have to be really naive to not think the answer is yes, which country and leader would you prefer to have that power? Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, one of the current Mideast countries and it's leader, or someone else? no one is that dumb.
7 - if one of the countries above had control of the Mideast how would the region be better off on a humanitarian level?  would their people be better or worse off? worse
8 - Knowing how important the Mideast oil is to the world economy how would one of those countries and it's leader being in charge affect the global economy? more positive, more negative, no change? no change
9 - if the US was not there who and what would the islamic terrorists use as the scapegoat for their attacks? israel
10 - how long would it take before the world asked us to come back to help strengthen the region?   tuesday


seriously, how can anyone answer any of those questions? lol (except for number 9, always blame israel lol)

seriously you think if the US pulled out Putin or worse wouldn't try to seize control or influence that region? that's just delusional.

yes I know many of the questions can't be answered but I just get sick of hearing people constantly harp that we meddle there which causes all the world's problems.  That area would be a bigger shit storm and the global economy would suffer worse consequences if we pulled out and ignored that region.  

Does that mean  you're happy with the US carrying that responsibility? I personally think that the USA is no longer fit to play "World Police", whether it's interested in the job or not.

bootlegger10

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

mcgruff10 said:

1 - how many countries would a civil war and/or coup occur in? 1
2 - how many more atrocities would certain leaders inflict on their own people there? 3
3 - how may countries would be safe from the neighbors? 6
4 - if the region was to become more unstable how many more refugees would look to leave and where would they go? 200, djibouti 
5 - If the US pulled out wouldn't it be safe to assume one of the other of the world's military powers would move to have their strength and control there instead of US? no
6 - if you believe the answer to question 5 is Yes, and you'd have to be really naive to not think the answer is yes, which country and leader would you prefer to have that power? Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, one of the current Mideast countries and it's leader, or someone else? no one is that dumb.
7 - if one of the countries above had control of the Mideast how would the region be better off on a humanitarian level?  would their people be better or worse off? worse
8 - Knowing how important the Mideast oil is to the world economy how would one of those countries and it's leader being in charge affect the global economy? more positive, more negative, no change? no change
9 - if the US was not there who and what would the islamic terrorists use as the scapegoat for their attacks? israel
10 - how long would it take before the world asked us to come back to help strengthen the region?   tuesday


seriously, how can anyone answer any of those questions? lol (except for number 9, always blame israel lol)

seriously you think if the US pulled out Putin or worse wouldn't try to seize control or influence that region? that's just delusional.

yes I know many of the questions can't be answered but I just get sick of hearing people constantly harp that we meddle there which causes all the world's problems.  That area would be a bigger shit storm and the global economy would suffer worse consequences if we pulled out and ignored that region.  

Does that mean  you're happy with the US carrying that responsibility? I personally think that the USA is no longer fit to play "World Police", whether it's interested in the job or not.

Not with the current administration and Congress.

oftenreading

mcgruff10 said:

1 - how many countries would a civil war and/or coup occur in? 1
2 - how many more atrocities would certain leaders inflict on their own people there? 3
3 - how may countries would be safe from the neighbors? 6
4 - if the region was to become more unstable how many more refugees would look to leave and where would they go? 200, djibouti 
5 - If the US pulled out wouldn't it be safe to assume one of the other of the world's military powers would move to have their strength and control there instead of US? no
6 - if you believe the answer to question 5 is Yes, and you'd have to be really naive to not think the answer is yes, which country and leader would you prefer to have that power? Russia, China, Japan, North Korea, one of the current Mideast countries and it's leader, or someone else? no one is that dumb.
7 - if one of the countries above had control of the Mideast how would the region be better off on a humanitarian level?  would their people be better or worse off? worse
8 - Knowing how important the Mideast oil is to the world economy how would one of those countries and it's leader being in charge affect the global economy? more positive, more negative, no change? no change
9 - if the US was not there who and what would the islamic terrorists use as the scapegoat for their attacks? israel
10 - how long would it take before the world asked us to come back to help strengthen the region?   tuesday


seriously, how can anyone answer any of those questions? lol (except for number 9, always blame israel lol)

Tuesday isn't good for me. Can we do Thursday instead?