Is America the greatest country in the world?

HughFreakingDillon

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Plenty of Canadians and politicians in Canada walk saying Canada is number 1...

every nation does it to a degree. but honestly in the US it's simply not on the same level as anywhere else. 

How does one make that assertion?  What is it based on?  Is this just a typical generalization around the world that America thinks it is the best in everything?  
America has pluses and minuses just like every other country in the world.  

just growing up over the years and observing the differences in culture between the US and everyone else, both in entertainment and in real life. ask anyone who has traveled anywhere else. there's no other nation that just erupts into chants of their country's name spontaneously, even when it makes zero sense. 

As an American, I cannot prove it, but I feel it as well.  We seem a bit more devoted to talking about how we're #1 than others.  Then again, maybe people sit around over beers in Norway and talk about how they're the greatest country in the world.  I'm pretty much only privy to what's going on in the USA. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Well I know people in Sweden like to post how awesome they are on the internet.

Honestly I don’t get either side of this. Posting over and over about how awesome the USA is or posting over and over what’s wrong with the USA.

I thought this thread was about if the USA is the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD or not... or am I in the wrong thread?

Ummm yeah.  And to do so wouldn't you need to compare to the world? Is Sweden in the world? 

Sweden is in "the world". Yes. It's a country located in the north of Europe, neighbouring Norway, Denmark and Finland. And the monkey wrench was invented there.

Yeah, there it is! I thought it was!  Kinda looks like it could use some Cialis.

well, you can probably get it for free under your Swedish medical plan. so there's that. 

Meltdown99

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Plenty of Canadians and politicians in Canada walk saying Canada is number 1...

every nation does it to a degree. but honestly in the US it's simply not on the same level as anywhere else. 

How does one make that assertion?  What is it based on?  Is this just a typical generalization around the world that America thinks it is the best in everything?  
America has pluses and minuses just like every other country in the world.  

just growing up over the years and observing the differences in culture between the US and everyone else, both in entertainment and in real life. ask anyone who has traveled anywhere else. there's no other nation that just erupts into chants of their country's name spontaneously, even when it makes zero sense. 

As an American, I cannot prove it, but I feel it as well.  We seem a bit more devoted to talking about how we're #1 than others.  Then again, maybe people sit around over beers in Norway and talk about how they're the greatest country in the world.  I'm pretty much only privy to what's going on in the USA. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Well I know people in Sweden like to post how awesome they are on the internet.

Honestly I don’t get either side of this. Posting over and over about how awesome the USA is or posting over and over what’s wrong with the USA.

The thing is, I don't think he is looking at what is right in America, 

Name a few things.

Music...plenty of great music
Hollywood...never short of great movies and TV shows.
Cannabis...US states started legalizing it, which I'm sure made it easier for our government to legalize it
Climate...there is pretty much any climate you could ask for in the US...so depending what your climate of choice is, I am sure you can find.
30 minutes from my door is downtown Detroit, I can attend all 4 major sports, farther down the road UM has world class college sports, pretty much all bands hit up Detroit when touring.
National Parks...
Route 66
The Pacific Coast HWY
Lifestyle...you can live pretty much live any lifestyle you want
Affordability

just off the top of my head.

Name some things that are important for peoples actual health, rights or lives.

Most of the stuff you listed can be answered with "...most countries have (something similar to) that".

So you do not like the answers, so now you change the question.

What are you asking me to comment on should be commented on by Americans?  

I am just listing what I like.

I could never provide an appropriate answer to their health or rights...because I have never had to deal with those issues.

I never had a bad experience in the US...I have been going to events for 35 years in Detroit, I'm still alive...and many of those years Detroit was a rough town.

I am assuming the US Constitution protects Americans rights.  

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Plenty of Canadians and politicians in Canada walk saying Canada is number 1...

every nation does it to a degree. but honestly in the US it's simply not on the same level as anywhere else. 

How does one make that assertion?  What is it based on?  Is this just a typical generalization around the world that America thinks it is the best in everything?  
America has pluses and minuses just like every other country in the world.  

just growing up over the years and observing the differences in culture between the US and everyone else, both in entertainment and in real life. ask anyone who has traveled anywhere else. there's no other nation that just erupts into chants of their country's name spontaneously, even when it makes zero sense. 

As an American, I cannot prove it, but I feel it as well.  We seem a bit more devoted to talking about how we're #1 than others.  Then again, maybe people sit around over beers in Norway and talk about how they're the greatest country in the world.  I'm pretty much only privy to what's going on in the USA. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Well I know people in Sweden like to post how awesome they are on the internet.

Honestly I don’t get either side of this. Posting over and over about how awesome the USA is or posting over and over what’s wrong with the USA.

The thing is, I don't think he is looking at what is right in America, 

Name a few things.

Music...plenty of great music
Hollywood...never short of great movies and TV shows.
Cannabis...US states started legalizing it, which I'm sure made it easier for our government to legalize it
Climate...there is pretty much any climate you could ask for in the US...so depending what your climate of choice is, I am sure you can find.
30 minutes from my door is downtown Detroit, I can attend all 4 major sports, farther down the road UM has world class college sports, pretty much all bands hit up Detroit when touring.
National Parks...
Route 66
The Pacific Coast HWY
Lifestyle...you can live pretty much live any lifestyle you want
Affordability

just off the top of my head.

Name some things that are important for peoples actual health, rights or lives.

Pearl Jam.
National parks are great.
State Parks.
County Parks.
National Scenic Rivers.
Our coastline up and down the Atlantic and Pacific.
Hawaii.  There is no place like Hawaii.
Constitution.  Bill of Rights.
We have some of the best doctors, nurses and nurse practitioners in the world.
We have some of the best hospitals in the world.
Our higher education is definitely the best.
Our military protects us and many around the world.
Music.
Pearl Jam
Craft beer.
California wines.
The Mississippi is one bad ass river.
Alaska.
Baseball.
Football.
Pearl Jam.
The Grand Canyon.  Wow.
Martin and Fender guitars.
Fishing and hunting.

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

cincybearcat said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Plenty of Canadians and politicians in Canada walk saying Canada is number 1...

every nation does it to a degree. but honestly in the US it's simply not on the same level as anywhere else. 

How does one make that assertion?  What is it based on?  Is this just a typical generalization around the world that America thinks it is the best in everything?  
America has pluses and minuses just like every other country in the world.  

just growing up over the years and observing the differences in culture between the US and everyone else, both in entertainment and in real life. ask anyone who has traveled anywhere else. there's no other nation that just erupts into chants of their country's name spontaneously, even when it makes zero sense. 

As an American, I cannot prove it, but I feel it as well.  We seem a bit more devoted to talking about how we're #1 than others.  Then again, maybe people sit around over beers in Norway and talk about how they're the greatest country in the world.  I'm pretty much only privy to what's going on in the USA. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Well I know people in Sweden like to post how awesome they are on the internet.

Honestly I don’t get either side of this. Posting over and over about how awesome the USA is or posting over and over what’s wrong with the USA.

I thought this thread was about if the USA is the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD or not... or am I in the wrong thread?

Ummm yeah.  And to do so wouldn't you need to compare to the world? Is Sweden in the world? 

Sweden is in "the world". Yes. It's a country located in the north of Europe, neighbouring Norway, Denmark and Finland. And the monkey wrench was invented there.

Yeah, there it is! I thought it was!  Kinda looks like it could use some Cialis.

well, you can probably get it for free under your Swedish medical plan. so there's that. 

Hahahah nice!

cincybearcat

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

I hear you. A bit different with the scale of the countries. But yeah I wish we’d move towards something better

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

Well, first of all, most classic cars owners don't take their cars out of the garage very much and when they do it's usually to a car show.  I have no attention to changing.  I'm not walking or biking in -15 or colder weather.  And most of rural Canada does not have public transportation, including where I am at.  If you are disappointed, be disappointed at Canada's large cities.  They have plenty of public transit, but the highways in all major cities are crammed packed with cars...and they have other options.  

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/101wrif/status/1104079476248465409

How could I forget this place 

mcgruff10

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

I hear you. A bit different with the scale of the countries. But yeah I wish we’d move towards something better

I wish that too however America and Canada are just too big to have a comparable mass transit system like they have in Europe.  

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

I hear you. A bit different with the scale of the countries. But yeah I wish we’d move towards something better

I wish that too however America and Canada are just too big to have a comparable mass transit system like they have in Europe.  

I agree that's the case in Canada (but in that case it should simply be focused on in a more regional way, and that isn't being done well either for the most part). But I think that America is populated enough for it to be possible there, if only there was a will to do it. The population isn't that spread out anymore.

OnWis97

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

As do I.  When you think about it, it's kind of a crazy way to get around.  It's the most dangerous thing most of us do every day. 30,000 people in the US die in collisions every year.  It pollutes.  It enables very inefficient and environmentally-unfriendly development patterns (that make it almost impossible to use other modes).  We spend enormous amounts of time in traffic.  People that can't drive (kids, the elderly, people who cannot afford cars, disabled) are often isolated.  We'd have been way better off not going all-in on the personal automobile from day 1 and developing our land and transportation network more thoughtfully. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed. 

If I were ranking countries (something I have no interest in doing) transportation would hurt our rank here in the states.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

I hear you. A bit different with the scale of the countries. But yeah I wish we’d move towards something better

I wish that too however America and Canada are just too big to have a comparable mass transit system like they have in Europe.  

I agree that's the case in Canada (but in that case it should simply be focused on in a more regional way, and that isn't being done well either for the most part). But I think that America is populated enough for it to be possible there, if only there was a will to do it. The population isn't that spread out anymore.

The will and the money. 

rgambs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

rgambs said:

I have no desire to defend America.
That being said, SC is coming off like an insecure dude who's worried about the size of his "country" and can't get "country" size off his mind.

You can be assured, that is not the case.

I find it hard to believe that your negative obsession with America (you can't even admit to a single positive trait??) has nothing to do with your country being a tiny footnote in the history of the world and an even tinier footnote in the current world.
Maybe if you were from Denmark, I might buy it  

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

Classic cars.  Classic cars.  Classic car...the big 3 muscle cars were the best in every way.

I consider America's car obsession a negative myself (most cars are single occupancy on the roads too). I wish America (and Canada) could be more like Europe when it comes to changing that mindset about transportation on a national scale. There are some attempts here and there, but I don't see people's views about it changing, really, there nor here in my country. Almost everyone is absolutely 100% stubbornly addicted to their cars and they have no intention of changing.

I hear you. A bit different with the scale of the countries. But yeah I wish we’d move towards something better

I wish that too however America and Canada are just too big to have a comparable mass transit system like they have in Europe.  

I agree that's the case in Canada (but in that case it should simply be focused on in a more regional way, and that isn't being done well either for the most part). But I think that America is populated enough for it to be possible there, if only there was a will to do it. The population isn't that spread out anymore.

it's such a difficult issue. our local politicians have been trying to get in a better transit system and bike lanes, etc, for years, but there is so much opposition to it from, you guessed it, conservatives."it's a waste of money!' "no one will use it!" they all cry. all progressive and successful larger metro areas have a mass transit system of some kind. it's just so close minded to do anything else. 

Annafalk

cincybearcat said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Plenty of Canadians and politicians in Canada walk saying Canada is number 1...

every nation does it to a degree. but honestly in the US it's simply not on the same level as anywhere else. 

How does one make that assertion?  What is it based on?  Is this just a typical generalization around the world that America thinks it is the best in everything?  
America has pluses and minuses just like every other country in the world.  

just growing up over the years and observing the differences in culture between the US and everyone else, both in entertainment and in real life. ask anyone who has traveled anywhere else. there's no other nation that just erupts into chants of their country's name spontaneously, even when it makes zero sense. 

As an American, I cannot prove it, but I feel it as well.  We seem a bit more devoted to talking about how we're #1 than others.  Then again, maybe people sit around over beers in Norway and talk about how they're the greatest country in the world.  I'm pretty much only privy to what's going on in the USA. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

Well I know people in Sweden like to post how awesome they are on the internet.

Honestly I don’t get either side of this. Posting over and over about how awesome the USA is or posting over and over what’s wrong with the USA.

I’d just like to add that I don’t do that, Sweden has a lot of problems and the suicide levels are high. People in Sweden has recently rated that their belief in democracy is decreasing in our country.  

Meltdown99

What about KISS?

HughFreakingDillon

weak

cincybearcat

HughFreakingDillon said:

weak

Oh ok Mr. Bieber......and Ms NIckelback

HughFreakingDillon

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

weak

Oh ok Mr. Bieber......and Ms NIckelback

huh?

Meltdown99

It obviously went over Hugh's head.  I think SC will get it.