Antifa Communists at Berkeley...again

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I say we take all these idiots down to Pasadena, put them in the Colosseum with a bunch of weapons, and let them have an Anchorman-style battle to the death. No touching of the hair, of course.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451
    Jason P said:

    I say we take all these idiots down to Pasadena, put them in the Colosseum with a bunch of weapons, and let them have an Anchorman-style battle to the death. No touching of the hair, of course.

    "Of course"
  • unsung said:

    Jason P said:

    If only they had cans of Pepsi to hand out, this all could have been adverted.

    What is the Pepsi thing?
    jeffbr said:

    unsung said:

    Jason P said:

    If only they had cans of Pepsi to hand out, this all could have been adverted.

    What is the Pepsi thing?
    Pepsi came out with this Kendall Jenner commercial, but pulled it immediately due to backlash:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA5Yq1DLSmQ
    Geez. I hope the day arrives when people care about things that matter. It is a kardashian, they don't matter.
    the backlast has zero to do with WHO is in the commercial. it's the absurdity of the commercial itself.
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  • dmaradona10dmaradona10 Posts: 915
    edited April 2017
    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


    I don't think you got it.
  • dmaradona10dmaradona10 Posts: 915
    dignin said:

    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


    I don't think you got it.
    That a fact?
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    dignin said:

    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


    I don't think you got it.
    That a fact?
    Fact, no. I guess you can take this like PJ's music. Eddie may have a certain intention when he writes a song but the listener has a totally different interpretation of what the song was about.

    You are the listener who has a different interpretation. Who am I to say you are wrong.
  • dmaradona10dmaradona10 Posts: 915
    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


    I don't think you got it.
    That a fact?
    Fact, no. I guess you can take this like PJ's music. Eddie may have a certain intention when he writes a song but the listener has a totally different interpretation of what the song was about.

    You are the listener who has a different interpretation. Who am I to say you are wrong.
    Ok, what's your interpretation?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


    I don't think you got it.
    That a fact?
    Fact, no. I guess you can take this like PJ's music. Eddie may have a certain intention when he writes a song but the listener has a totally different interpretation of what the song was about.

    You are the listener who has a different interpretation. Who am I to say you are wrong.
    Ok, what's your interpretation?
    Did you watch the video where that still came from?

    If you haven't I will help you out. I posted it earlier in the thread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3uhKxNPNg
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    Having had contact with black hooded Oregonians in the wto days, I'm curious how you connect them to the direct action network?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    Having had contact with black hooded Oregonians in the wto days, I'm curious how you connect them to the direct action network?
    http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~polletta/Articles and Book Chapters_files/This_is_what_demo_looks_like.pdf
    http://flag.blackened.net/global/aaconvergence.htm
    https://www.indypendent.org/2011/12/05/seattle-wto-shutdown-’99-occupy-organizing-win-12-years-later
    https://books.google.com/books?id=-SUdDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA284&lpg=PA284&dq=direct+action+network+WTO&source=bl&ots=zGHkcwp6vl&sig=qLTMKNkz5gwvjieYlBB1T0SZgYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiClvDilMXTAhUQyGMKHaGEAGsQ6AEIVzAH#v=onepage&q=direct action network WTO&f=false
    http://archive.seattleweekly.com/2000-08-02/news/the-new-movement/
    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/purple-america/the-battle-for-reality
    etc...
    etc...
    etc...
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    Having had contact with black hooded Oregonians in the wto days, I'm curious how you connect them to the direct action network?
    http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~polletta/Articles and Book Chapters_files/This_is_what_demo_looks_like.pdf
    http://flag.blackened.net/global/aaconvergence.htm
    https://www.indypendent.org/2011/12/05/seattle-wto-shutdown-’99-occupy-organizing-win-12-years-later
    https://books.google.com/books?id=-SUdDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA284&lpg=PA284&dq=direct+action+network+WTO&source=bl&ots=zGHkcwp6vl&sig=qLTMKNkz5gwvjieYlBB1T0SZgYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiClvDilMXTAhUQyGMKHaGEAGsQ6AEIVzAH#v=onepage&q=direct action network WTO&f=false
    http://archive.seattleweekly.com/2000-08-02/news/the-new-movement/
    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/purple-america/the-battle-for-reality
    etc...
    etc...
    etc...
    Thanks for the links. After reading them, they're reinforcing my position, though. Nowhere was DAN claiming window smashers as part of their organization. Just because an opportunist sees an opportunity, does not mean they're an extension of the group.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    Jason P said:

    I say we take all these idiots down to Pasadena, put them in the Colosseum with a bunch of weapons, and let them have an Anchorman-style battle to the death. No touching of the hair, of course.

    I'm indie so I'm with PBS. No commercials! No mercy!
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    Having had contact with black hooded Oregonians in the wto days, I'm curious how you connect them to the direct action network?
    http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~polletta/Articles and Book Chapters_files/This_is_what_demo_looks_like.pdf
    http://flag.blackened.net/global/aaconvergence.htm
    https://www.indypendent.org/2011/12/05/seattle-wto-shutdown-’99-occupy-organizing-win-12-years-later
    https://books.google.com/books?id=-SUdDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA284&lpg=PA284&dq=direct+action+network+WTO&source=bl&ots=zGHkcwp6vl&sig=qLTMKNkz5gwvjieYlBB1T0SZgYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiClvDilMXTAhUQyGMKHaGEAGsQ6AEIVzAH#v=onepage&q=direct action network WTO&f=false
    http://archive.seattleweekly.com/2000-08-02/news/the-new-movement/
    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/purple-america/the-battle-for-reality
    etc...
    etc...
    etc...
    Thanks for the links. After reading them, they're reinforcing my position, though. Nowhere was DAN claiming window smashers as part of their organization. Just because an opportunist sees an opportunity, does not mean they're an extension of the group.
    Fair enough. But when DAN is involved in something, you can surely count on those window smashers to be there with them, whether they are part of the group, invited to join in, or just "happen" to be there. My point is that if DAN is protesting, accompanying violence or vandalism is anticipated by me, by the media and by law enforcement. If DAN has a problem with that perception (which may be wildly inaccurate, but is the perception nonetheless), then DAN should actually speak out against it, and police their own demonstrations. I believe they're complicit. Perhaps it was unfair of me to say that the window smashers and violent assholes are officially part of DAN, but I don't think it is unfair to say that I expect violence and vandalism at DAN events.

    I will point out that early on, right after WTO, there was a bit of a backlash against the Eugene douchebags by the DAN folks, but that seemed to fall on deaf ears, and ultimately amounted to very little, since they continue to show up. I expect some of them to be back in Seattle on Monday for the annual Seattle May Day shit show.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • dmaradona10dmaradona10 Posts: 915
    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


    I don't think you got it.
    That a fact?
    Fact, no. I guess you can take this like PJ's music. Eddie may have a certain intention when he writes a song but the listener has a totally different interpretation of what the song was about.

    You are the listener who has a different interpretation. Who am I to say you are wrong.
    Ok, what's your interpretation?
    Did you watch the video where that still came from?

    If you haven't I will help you out. I posted it earlier in the thread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3uhKxNPNg
    Yeah, the dude was trolling everybody, but mostly Antifa.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    This is the best pic. Antifa trolled at Berkely.


    I don't think you got it.
    That a fact?
    Fact, no. I guess you can take this like PJ's music. Eddie may have a certain intention when he writes a song but the listener has a totally different interpretation of what the song was about.

    You are the listener who has a different interpretation. Who am I to say you are wrong.
    Ok, what's your interpretation?
    Did you watch the video where that still came from?

    If you haven't I will help you out. I posted it earlier in the thread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3uhKxNPNg
    Yeah, the dude was trolling everybody, but mostly Antifa.

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,023
    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    Having had contact with black hooded Oregonians in the wto days, I'm curious how you connect them to the direct action network?
    http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~polletta/Articles and Book Chapters_files/This_is_what_demo_looks_like.pdf
    http://flag.blackened.net/global/aaconvergence.htm
    https://www.indypendent.org/2011/12/05/seattle-wto-shutdown-’99-occupy-organizing-win-12-years-later
    https://books.google.com/books?id=-SUdDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA284&lpg=PA284&dq=direct+action+network+WTO&source=bl&ots=zGHkcwp6vl&sig=qLTMKNkz5gwvjieYlBB1T0SZgYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiClvDilMXTAhUQyGMKHaGEAGsQ6AEIVzAH#v=onepage&q=direct action network WTO&f=false
    http://archive.seattleweekly.com/2000-08-02/news/the-new-movement/
    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/purple-america/the-battle-for-reality
    etc...
    etc...
    etc...
    Thanks for the links. After reading them, they're reinforcing my position, though. Nowhere was DAN claiming window smashers as part of their organization. Just because an opportunist sees an opportunity, does not mean they're an extension of the group.
    Fair enough. But when DAN is involved in something, you can surely count on those window smashers to be there with them, whether they are part of the group, invited to join in, or just "happen" to be there. My point is that if DAN is protesting, accompanying violence or vandalism is anticipated by me, by the media and by law enforcement. If DAN has a problem with that perception (which may be wildly inaccurate, but is the perception nonetheless), then DAN should actually speak out against it, and police their own demonstrations. I believe they're complicit. Perhaps it was unfair of me to say that the window smashers and violent assholes are officially part of DAN, but I don't think it is unfair to say that I expect violence and vandalism at DAN events.

    I will point out that early on, right after WTO, there was a bit of a backlash against the Eugene douchebags by the DAN folks, but that seemed to fall on deaf ears, and ultimately amounted to very little, since they continue to show up. I expect some of them to be back in Seattle on Monday for the annual Seattle May Day shit show.
    You mean like Trump at his rallies?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    Having had contact with black hooded Oregonians in the wto days, I'm curious how you connect them to the direct action network?
    http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~polletta/Articles and Book Chapters_files/This_is_what_demo_looks_like.pdf
    http://flag.blackened.net/global/aaconvergence.htm
    https://www.indypendent.org/2011/12/05/seattle-wto-shutdown-’99-occupy-organizing-win-12-years-later
    https://books.google.com/books?id=-SUdDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA284&lpg=PA284&dq=direct+action+network+WTO&source=bl&ots=zGHkcwp6vl&sig=qLTMKNkz5gwvjieYlBB1T0SZgYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiClvDilMXTAhUQyGMKHaGEAGsQ6AEIVzAH#v=onepage&q=direct action network WTO&f=false
    http://archive.seattleweekly.com/2000-08-02/news/the-new-movement/
    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/purple-america/the-battle-for-reality
    etc...
    etc...
    etc...
    Thanks for the links. After reading them, they're reinforcing my position, though. Nowhere was DAN claiming window smashers as part of their organization. Just because an opportunist sees an opportunity, does not mean they're an extension of the group.
    Fair enough. But when DAN is involved in something, you can surely count on those window smashers to be there with them, whether they are part of the group, invited to join in, or just "happen" to be there. My point is that if DAN is protesting, accompanying violence or vandalism is anticipated by me, by the media and by law enforcement. If DAN has a problem with that perception (which may be wildly inaccurate, but is the perception nonetheless), then DAN should actually speak out against it, and police their own demonstrations. I believe they're complicit. Perhaps it was unfair of me to say that the window smashers and violent assholes are officially part of DAN, but I don't think it is unfair to say that I expect violence and vandalism at DAN events.

    I will point out that early on, right after WTO, there was a bit of a backlash against the Eugene douchebags by the DAN folks, but that seemed to fall on deaf ears, and ultimately amounted to very little, since they continue to show up. I expect some of them to be back in Seattle on Monday for the annual Seattle May Day shit show.
    You mean like Trump at his rallies?
    Yup. And Trump is now being sued for inciting this behavior, which I fully support (the suit, not the behavior).
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,085
    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Looks like those smelly antifa kids have cancelled the Rose Parade in Portland due to their threats of violence. Sounds fascist to me.

    I didn't read that there were threats of violence. Also, the two protest groups aren't calling themselves antifa. So is antifa the new label for any left leaning group?
    Any left leaning group? Nope. But the two groups involved in this? Yup. The Direct Action Network is certainly antifa, they are an anti-fascist group. They are the shit stirrers from the anti-WTO days, those black hoodie wearing anarchists. They definitely qualify as antifa, and have shown very little restraint when it comes to violence and vandalism. The other group is Oregon Students Empowered, also an anti-fascist group. So yes, antifa.
    Having had contact with black hooded Oregonians in the wto days, I'm curious how you connect them to the direct action network?
    http://www.socsci.uci.edu/~polletta/Articles and Book Chapters_files/This_is_what_demo_looks_like.pdf
    http://flag.blackened.net/global/aaconvergence.htm
    https://www.indypendent.org/2011/12/05/seattle-wto-shutdown-’99-occupy-organizing-win-12-years-later
    https://books.google.com/books?id=-SUdDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA284&lpg=PA284&dq=direct+action+network+WTO&source=bl&ots=zGHkcwp6vl&sig=qLTMKNkz5gwvjieYlBB1T0SZgYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiClvDilMXTAhUQyGMKHaGEAGsQ6AEIVzAH#v=onepage&q=direct action network WTO&f=false
    http://archive.seattleweekly.com/2000-08-02/news/the-new-movement/
    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/purple-america/the-battle-for-reality
    etc...
    etc...
    etc...
    Thanks for the links. After reading them, they're reinforcing my position, though. Nowhere was DAN claiming window smashers as part of their organization. Just because an opportunist sees an opportunity, does not mean they're an extension of the group.
    Fair enough. But when DAN is involved in something, you can surely count on those window smashers to be there with them, whether they are part of the group, invited to join in, or just "happen" to be there. My point is that if DAN is protesting, accompanying violence or vandalism is anticipated by me, by the media and by law enforcement. If DAN has a problem with that perception (which may be wildly inaccurate, but is the perception nonetheless), then DAN should actually speak out against it, and police their own demonstrations. I believe they're complicit. Perhaps it was unfair of me to say that the window smashers and violent assholes are officially part of DAN, but I don't think it is unfair to say that I expect violence and vandalism at DAN events.

    I will point out that early on, right after WTO, there was a bit of a backlash against the Eugene douchebags by the DAN folks, but that seemed to fall on deaf ears, and ultimately amounted to very little, since they continue to show up. I expect some of them to be back in Seattle on Monday for the annual Seattle May Day shit show.
    You mean like Trump at his rallies?
    Yup. And Trump is now being sued for inciting this behavior, which I fully support (the suit, not the behavior).
    trump would actually not compare to DAN. He openly encouraged violence. I couldn't find that DAN has. In fact, they identify as non-violent.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    ....at least they're not astro-turfed like the Tea-Hadists....
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    Yuck, yuck, yuck, hee haw.
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    unsung said:
    Hahaha, hardcore!!!  Capitalists capitalizing off of anti-capitalism.
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    LOL... from Boston antifa


  • riley540riley540 Posts: 1,132
    Antifa is a group that targets events that host people they disagree with. They show up, masked, and ready to fight. I've seen them in person a couple times. They should be treated as terorists and arrested for instigating violence. And Berkeley should be ashamed for not allowing free speech on campus.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    riley540 said:
    Antifa is a group that targets events that host people they disagree with. They show up, masked, and ready to fight. I've seen them in person a couple times. They should be treated as terorists and arrested for instigating violence. And Berkeley should be ashamed for not allowing free speech on campus.  



    doesnt any college have an obligation  to safety as well as promotion of free speech? given what happened with milo's speech isnt it prudent to try and avoid something similar? to move an event to a more safety secure environment isnt prohibiting free speech.

    opting not to attend because the venue wishes all involved to be safe and secure in their persons shows she was hoping to become some kind of martyr or to push this false narrative that free speech of the right is under atrack by institutions.
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    mickeyrat said:
    riley540 said:
    Antifa is a group that targets events that host people they disagree with. They show up, masked, and ready to fight. I've seen them in person a couple times. They should be treated as terorists and arrested for instigating violence. And Berkeley should be ashamed for not allowing free speech on campus.  



    doesnt any college have an obligation  to safety as well as promotion of free speech? given what happened with milo's speech isnt it prudent to try and avoid something similar? to move an event to a more safety secure environment isnt prohibiting free speech.

    opting not to attend because the venue wishes all involved to be safe and secure in their persons shows she was hoping to become some kind of martyr or to push this false narrative that free speech of the right is under atrack by institutions.
    Which is exactly why the Republican students are inviting the most controversial characters they can.  Milo and Ann are not legitimate conservative voices who can add to an adult discussion, they are celebrity shit stirrers that seek to create controversy.

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