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brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
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I didn't think so. I don't either.

Carry on.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    I like this thread.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
    Seriously- not trying to be a smart-ass. I really have no clue what's going on.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,872
    Marvin Gaye knew. Oh yea.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,284
    I know that I don't know.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,872
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2iDj1D2OimM

    Oh yea
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,207
    I don't know either, however I get the feeling of what appears to a rather simple missile launch on a distant airbase is going to lead to something far more disastrous than we could ever imagine. It's a brutal world we live where it's so very hard to live in........

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,466
    The fact of the matter is that Syrian civilians have/are dying by the hundreds of thousands, wether we bomb their airfields or Russian forces bomb them or Assad gases them they are the victims and the world is sitting by watching , and here we are 2017 and nothing is being done about it ! This administration putting on a sympathy show is pathetic bafoon had the nerve to say he was shocked by images of kids chocking to death yet his administration has closed its doors to them is a god damn shame fuck you orange bafoon!
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  • Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys Earth Posts: 357
    The real worry, for me, is that us schmucks that type our thoughts on a band's webpage probably don't know that much less than our 'leaders'.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    josevolution said:

    The fact of the matter is that Syrian civilians have/are dying by the hundreds of thousands, wether we bomb their airfields or Russian forces bomb them or Assad gases them they are the victims and the world is sitting by watching , and here we are 2017 and nothing is being done about it ! This administration putting on a sympathy show is pathetic bafoon had the nerve to say he was shocked by images of kids chocking to death yet his administration has closed its doors to them is a god damn shame fuck you orange bafoon!

    There's no question help is necessary. Exactly what that help is? I'm not sure.

    Do we rescue every Syrian by pulling them from Syria and relocating them to a more peaceful place? Or do we help Syrians in Syria? I don't know.

    And I'm waiting to see what this tactic results in: grace's concern is similar to mine. The missile strike seems like a Jenga move that has the structure wobbling (does it settle or does it come tumbling down)?
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,460
    This is happening Brian..

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  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,098
    I know what's going on but I'm keeping my damn mouth shut.

    Have a great day!
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I said hey, what's going on!?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I said hey yay, yeah yeah
    Hey yay yeah yeah, what's going on?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
    g under p said:

    I don't know either, however I get the feeling of what appears to a rather simple missile launch on a distant airbase is going to lead to something far more disastrous than we could ever imagine. It's a brutal world we live where it's so very hard to live in........

    PEACE

    I'm reading Pat Frank's Alas Babylon. Last night's chapter runs a discomforting parallel to what you mention here, g. Great reading just before hitting the pillow. NOT!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
    Marvin Gaye to put a better spin on this. Halifax, you da man! :smiley:
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
    You guys are right on track here. Syria is exactly what prompted my thought in the first place. Of course, it extends far beyond that one event to the GWC- Great Worldwide Clusterfvck.

    So not knowing much at all is about all I know. I don't even know how to discuss politics any more. A feeling of apathetic ennui has settled into my old bones. It's now up to the young to carry on.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    It all feels like uncharted territory with a complete disregard for facts and consequences. That's how I feel about it today & it's not a good feeling.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:

    You guys are right on track here. Syria is exactly what prompted my thought in the first place. Of course, it extends far beyond that one event to the GWC- Great Worldwide Clusterfvck.

    So not knowing much at all is about all I know. I don't even know how to discuss politics any more. A feeling of apathetic ennui has settled into my old bones. It's now up to the young to carry on.

    brianlux said:

    You guys are right on track here. Syria is exactly what prompted my thought in the first place. Of course, it extends far beyond that one event to the GWC- Great Worldwide Clusterfvck.

    So not knowing much at all is about all I know. I don't even know how to discuss politics any more. A feeling of apathetic ennui has settled into my old bones. It's now up to the young to carry on.

    Not sure it's about age or generation, B. More like mindset - and that exhaustion of trying to make sense of what IS going on...what we see, hear, take in. I'm actually ok knowing I know shit about a shitload of things.

    And I'm ok distancing myself from any and all clusterfucks when needed, whether they be political, work-related, personal, etc. I'd rather swim than sink in those (metaphorical) shark-infested waters.

    To the original question, I think some do know what's going on but are mum.

    Then again, I'm watching an episode of Homeland, so go figure :)
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,284
    Naval strike group en route to the Korean peninsula. Trump says the US is prepared to act alone. Woot?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,872
    Go Beavers said:

    Naval strike group en route to the Korean peninsula. Trump says the US is prepared to act alone. Woot?

    Just more brown people dying, no consequence for 'Murcia. What's the diff? Just need to beat Barry.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,313
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,313
    ^^^^^in other words. SNAFU.......

    Situation Normal, All Fucked Up.

    Carry on.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    Go Beavers said:

    Naval strike group en route to the Korean peninsula. Trump says the US is prepared to act alone. Woot?

    He has no clue what he's doing & how it will affect so many people around the world & I don't think he cares at all.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,982
    mickeyrat said:

    ^^^^^in other words. SNAFU.......

    Situation Normal, All Fucked Up.

    Carry on.

    You sure it's not FUBAR?

    Fucked Up Beyond All Repair
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,313
    Bentleyspop said:

    mickeyrat said:

    ^^^^^in other words. SNAFU.......

    Situation Normal, All Fucked Up.

    Carry on.

    You sure it's not FUBAR?

    Fucked Up Beyond All Repair
    that too.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,466
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    josevolution said:

    The fact of the matter is that Syrian civilians have/are dying by the hundreds of thousands, wether we bomb their airfields or Russian forces bomb them or Assad gases them they are the victims and the world is sitting by watching , and here we are 2017 and nothing is being done about it ! This administration putting on a sympathy show is pathetic bafoon had the nerve to say he was shocked by images of kids chocking to death yet his administration has closed its doors to them is a god damn shame fuck you orange bafoon!

    There's no question help is necessary. Exactly what that help is? I'm not sure.

    Do we rescue every Syrian by pulling them from Syria and relocating them to a more peaceful place? Or do we help Syrians in Syria? I don't know.

    And I'm waiting to see what this tactic results in: grace's concern is similar to mine. The missile strike seems like a Jenga move that has the structure wobbling (does it settle or does it come tumbling down)?
    Assad has to go he will never change for the better he's responsible for hundreds of thousands civilians dead , how can he continue to be in charge the country is wrecked...
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    I don't know everything that is going on but I do know that Donald Trump is the President of the United States of America and he launched 59 missiles into Syria!
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
    Bentleyspop said:

    mickeyrat said:

    ^^^^^in other words. SNAFU.......

    Situation Normal, All Fucked Up.

    Carry on.

    You sure it's not FUBAR?

    Fucked Up Beyond All Repair
    Both!

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,655
    Feels a little bit like Mr. Kunstler is reading my mind:

    "There are times in the course of events when a society cannot tell what the fuck is going on, or what to do about it, and this is one of those moments in history here in the USA. The quandaries of life on the home front — how to make a living, how to care for ourselves and loved ones — get shoved aside by misadventures in foreign lands with their own quandaries. One delusion leads to another until you enter a zero gravity of the mind. Case in point du jour: Syria."

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/wonderland/
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,284
    brianlux said:

    Feels a little bit like Mr. Kunstler is reading my mind:

    "There are times in the course of events when a society cannot tell what the fuck is going on, or what to do about it, and this is one of those moments in history here in the USA. The quandaries of life on the home front — how to make a living, how to care for ourselves and loved ones — get shoved aside by misadventures in foreign lands with their own quandaries. One delusion leads to another until you enter a zero gravity of the mind. Case in point du jour: Syria."

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/wonderland/

    That's something that has trickled down: trump's style of management and policy that is based on chaos and impulsivity. And people say the government is ineffective!
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