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  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  
    This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.
    MY phoniness?  What is my phoniness?  And your bullshit spin is just another example of a right winger seeking to twist every event into a validation of their fucked up, racist, xenophobic, uber-"masculine" worldview.  But I'm not buying that shit.  Trump's base elected him AFTER the allegations.  Alabama will elect Moore (likely) AFTER the allegations.  What do we see on the D side?  Oh right.. Franken and Conyers resigning.  That's the reality. One side is holding their officials accountable.  The other is doubling down. 
    Alabama Republicans stayed home or chose the write in a candidate. They proved you wrong. They proved all of you wrong. They sized up Moore for what he was and rejected him. Point for the deplorables in the reddest of states. They are not the caricature you all make them out to be. 

    ummm
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    WHATABOUT this WHATABOUT that?
    sad
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,737
    Tiki said:
    WHATABOUT this WHATABOUT that?
    sad
    *squawk* what about Clinton *squawk*
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    the attempt to change the SUBJECT is a weak tactic.  Always will be.


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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Tiki said:
    the attempt to change the SUBJECT is a weak tactic.  Always will be.


    Yes. Nobody should change the subject of sexual assault to sexual assault.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,861
    BS44325 said:
    Have to ask again.....

    What's  scarier?
    The currently elected president?
    Or......

    His advisors and supporters?
    HIs supporters. Or at least the 30% of them that are bat shit crazy. They're gullible and stubborn enough to vote for another unqualified clown who simply says the things they want to hear. This is why a child molester can come within 1.5% of the vote from getting into the senate.
    There already is a child molester in the senate

    http://www.latimes.com/sd-me-menendez-case-20171012-story.html

    If only the refined democrats of New Jersey could learn from their deploable brethren of Alabama and toss this guy to the wolves. I have no idea why the dems try to resurrect every Anthony Weiner.
    Sorry.....that's not remotely the same thing. Bob Menedez is a scum bag and should not run again....but, yeah, not the same thing as what those dopes in Alabama were overlooking earlier this week.

    48% of voters in Alabama voted for Roy Moore. Nothing you've spouted here this morning makes any sense....except the Stern stuff. Nothing wrong Howard Stern.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,861
    Tiki said:
    WHATABOUT this WHATABOUT that?
    sad
    Well when you don't have a coherent argument, you have to deflect. 
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  • This is what authoritarianism looks like. Along with the constant bashing of the press. Hello, 1984? We want our constitution back.

    CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity - The Washington Post https://apple.news/AWm3ZO2xSQWqtIYM1ZceT0A
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    This is what authoritarianism looks like. Along with the constant bashing of the press. Hello, 1984? We want our constitution back.

    CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity - The Washington Post https://apple.news/AWm3ZO2xSQWqtIYM1ZceT0A
    Hello 1939.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    BS44325 said:
    Tiki said:
    the attempt to change the SUBJECT is a weak tactic.  Always will be.


    Yes. Nobody should change the subject of sexual assault to sexual assault.
    STILL MAD WEAK.
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  • Tiki said:
    This is what authoritarianism looks like. Along with the constant bashing of the press. Hello, 1984? We want our constitution back.

    CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity - The Washington Post https://apple.news/AWm3ZO2xSQWqtIYM1ZceT0A
    Hello 1939.
    Ah, you one upped me.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    This is what authoritarianism looks like. Along with the constant bashing of the press. Hello, 1984? We want our constitution back.

    CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity - The Washington Post https://apple.news/AWm3ZO2xSQWqtIYM1ZceT0A
    So, the top health organization can not use the word "fetus" in documents because the very idea of talking about a fetus is too controversial. 

    Maybe I'll come up with a better response to that after some thought. At this point I can only shake my head and walk away. 
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  • This is what authoritarianism looks like. Along with the constant bashing of the press. Hello, 1984? We want our constitution back.

    CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity - The Washington Post https://apple.news/AWm3ZO2xSQWqtIYM1ZceT0A
    So, the top health organization can not use the word "fetus" in documents because the very idea of talking about a fetus is too controversial. 

    Maybe I'll come up with a better response to that after some thought. At this point I can only shake my head and walk away. 
    It’s the administration and party of ignorance. Ignorance is bliss. Pick the issue and try to find the honest debate or presentation of facts. You can fool a lot of dumb people all the time.
     
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    Tiki said:, 
    This is what authoritarianism looks like. Along with the constant bashing of the press. Hello, 1984? We want our constitution back.

    CDC gets list of forbidden words: fetus, transgender, diversity - The Washington Post https://apple.news/AWm3ZO2xSQWqtIYM1ZceT0A
    Hello 1939.
    Ah, you one upped me.
    follow the $$ bro...follow the $$. 
    As this is 2017-8, I'm also for following the allegations of sexual misconduct by Supreme Leader, whether they are PTAPE related, or coming from the women who have accused him of being a total letch.

    Rachel Crooks
    Karena Virginia
    Cassandra Searles
    Kristin Anderson
    Ninni Laaksonen
    Temple Taggart
    Jessica Leeds
    Natasha Stoynoff
    Summer Zervos
    Cathy Heller
    Lisa Boyne
    Samantha Holvey
    Jessica Drake

    PLUS at least FOUR others.

      
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  • BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  
    This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.
    MY phoniness?  What is my phoniness?  And your bullshit spin is just another example of a right winger seeking to twist every event into a validation of their fucked up, racist, xenophobic, uber-"masculine" worldview.  But I'm not buying that shit.  Trump's base elected him AFTER the allegations.  Alabama will elect Moore (likely) AFTER the allegations.  What do we see on the D side?  Oh right.. Franken and Conyers resigning.  That's the reality. One side is holding their officials accountable.  The other is doubling down. 
    Alabama Republicans stayed home or chose the write in a candidate. They proved you wrong. They proved all of you wrong. They sized up Moore for what he was and rejected him. Point for the deplorables in the reddest of states. They are not the caricature you all make them out to be. 
    Umm actually they voted their asses off for the guy and he barely lost. 
    What universe do you live in?  Did you not see the demographic breakdown for this election?
    They are exactly the caricature they've been made out to be, and the vote totals prove that beyond a doubt.
    Hashish man you must have the good stuff!
    No. They did not “vote their asses off” for the guy. He got half the vote that Trump did. The data can’t be disputed. The science is settled.
    So did Jeff Session in 2014, and he didn't even have an opponent. Fewer people vote in statewide and special elections than in Presidential general elections.
  • BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  
    This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.
    MY phoniness?  What is my phoniness?  And your bullshit spin is just another example of a right winger seeking to twist every event into a validation of their fucked up, racist, xenophobic, uber-"masculine" worldview.  But I'm not buying that shit.  Trump's base elected him AFTER the allegations.  Alabama will elect Moore (likely) AFTER the allegations.  What do we see on the D side?  Oh right.. Franken and Conyers resigning.  That's the reality. One side is holding their officials accountable.  The other is doubling down. 
    Alabama Republicans stayed home or chose the write in a candidate. They proved you wrong. They proved all of you wrong. They sized up Moore for what he was and rejected him. Point for the deplorables in the reddest of states. They are not the caricature you all make them out to be. 
    Umm actually they voted their asses off for the guy and he barely lost. 
    What universe do you live in?  Did you not see the demographic breakdown for this election?
    They are exactly the caricature they've been made out to be, and the vote totals prove that beyond a doubt.
    Hashish man you must have the good stuff!
    No. They did not “vote their asses off” for the guy. He got half the vote that Trump did. The data can’t be disputed. The science is settled.
    So did Jeff Session in 2014, and he didn't even have an opponent. Fewer people vote in statewide and special elections than in Presidential general elections.
    BS is laying the ground for his excuse when the repubes get drummed in the midterms. It’ll be because the “good, decent” repubes stayed home. It’s excuse making after claiming Team Trump Treason’s brilliance would create a wave of Repube victories across the land, ensuring Team Trump Treason’s re-election in 2020 and cementing repubes’ orthodoxy for a generation, or some such BS. Remember, it’s all necessary to save the world (or at least Israel).
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  
    This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.
    MY phoniness?  What is my phoniness?  And your bullshit spin is just another example of a right winger seeking to twist every event into a validation of their fucked up, racist, xenophobic, uber-"masculine" worldview.  But I'm not buying that shit.  Trump's base elected him AFTER the allegations.  Alabama will elect Moore (likely) AFTER the allegations.  What do we see on the D side?  Oh right.. Franken and Conyers resigning.  That's the reality. One side is holding their officials accountable.  The other is doubling down. 
    Alabama Republicans stayed home or chose the write in a candidate. They proved you wrong. They proved all of you wrong. They sized up Moore for what he was and rejected him. Point for the deplorables in the reddest of states. They are not the caricature you all make them out to be. 
    Umm actually they voted their asses off for the guy and he barely lost. 
    What universe do you live in?  Did you not see the demographic breakdown for this election?
    They are exactly the caricature they've been made out to be, and the vote totals prove that beyond a doubt.
    Hashish man you must have the good stuff!
    No. They did not “vote their asses off” for the guy. He got half the vote that Trump did. The data can’t be disputed. The science is settled.
    Haha right, because a special election in December with a single ballot item should be drawing similar numbers to a POTUS vote total?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    BS44325 said:
    rgambs said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  
    This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.
    MY phoniness?  What is my phoniness?  And your bullshit spin is just another example of a right winger seeking to twist every event into a validation of their fucked up, racist, xenophobic, uber-"masculine" worldview.  But I'm not buying that shit.  Trump's base elected him AFTER the allegations.  Alabama will elect Moore (likely) AFTER the allegations.  What do we see on the D side?  Oh right.. Franken and Conyers resigning.  That's the reality. One side is holding their officials accountable.  The other is doubling down. 
    Alabama Republicans stayed home or chose the write in a candidate. They proved you wrong. They proved all of you wrong. They sized up Moore for what he was and rejected him. Point for the deplorables in the reddest of states. They are not the caricature you all make them out to be. 
    Umm actually they voted their asses off for the guy and he barely lost. 
    What universe do you live in?  Did you not see the demographic breakdown for this election?
    They are exactly the caricature they've been made out to be, and the vote totals prove that beyond a doubt.
    Hashish man you must have the good stuff!
    No. They did not “vote their asses off” for the guy. He got half the vote that Trump did. The data can’t be disputed. The science is settled.
    Sure the data can be disputed, because you aren't comparing like to like. 
     

    And counting votes isn't science. Now, what the CDC does is science, but it seems Trump's administration is making that even harder to do. 
     
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    "aren't comparing like to like..."

    False equivalency is the Republican/Trumpito/Fox News strategy 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Tiki said:
    "aren't comparing like to like..."

    False equivalency is the Republican/Trumpito/Fox News strategy 
    I'm eager to see what the response will be this time. Will it be of the "could you be more naive?" variety, or will it be more like "you know nothing about this". Or maybe an exciting hybrid model? 
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  • mueller has tens of thousands of emails from 12 accounts. these emails are the basis of questions that mueller is asking people he is interviewing. trump's legal team did not know mueller has them until this week.

    it is now known that pence lied and covered for flynn. he is going to be subject to charges.

    just a matter of time now. the whole thing is coming down.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    mueller has tens of thousands of emails from 12 accounts. these emails are the basis of questions that mueller is asking people he is interviewing. trump's legal team did not know mueller has them until this week.

    it is now known that pence lied and covered for flynn. he is going to be subject to charges.

    just a matter of time now. the whole thing is coming down.
    "His emails...." 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,053
    BS44325 said:
    BS44325 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Now if you say that... People were incensed that Trump got away with his sexual assault history and so Farrow was able to get people to go on the record that otherwise would not have historically.. yeah I'll give you that.  Candidate Trump's sexual assaults cleared the way for Farrow and the #metoo movement.  I'll buy that.  Congratulations on that being the head of your party.  And the most high profile #2 is a child rapist.  Good for you guys.  
    This is what I am saying and it bears out by looking at the case of Ashley Judd. Ashley Judd was a massive Hillary Clinton supporter. When Clinton lost Judd was at the forefront of the women’s march lashing out at President Trump. This past October however we find out that she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein who we all know was a massive fundraiser of both Clinton and Obama. Now it is not for me to judge why or when Ashley Judd decided to come forward with her story but it goes to show that until the protection racket collapsed...until the power of the Clintons evaporated on a November night...the enablers had very little to fear. It took that collapse for the brave to feel they finally had the freedom to step forward. Trump will have to deal with his history. His supporters do not blow it off. What you don’t understand is that his supporters are telling you to stop with YOUR phoniness. They know what Trump is. They don’t condone it but they will choose his ugliness over this mythical nobility your party claims to stand for. If this leads to a bipartisan bloodletting then so be it. It is long overdue and the election of your candidate would have continued the charade.
    Why the insistence to pretty up trump supporters? Nearly all of them absolutely condone his behavior. They say he "says what I'm thinking". They support his bigotry and all his ugliness. They aren't supporting him out of some forced opposition to Democrats. 
    It’s not “prettying up” Trump supporters...it is educating you on who they actually are. They do no “absolutely condone his behavior”. This is the biggest misconception. There is a reason why his approval ratings never got much above 40% before the election and haven’t climbed after the election. His voters were given a choice between different kinds of “ugliness” and made a choice about which “ugliness” will be more productive and/or helpful in the long run. They like Trump’s agenda but do not like his ugliness. That being said his ugliness is useful in exposing the ugliness that exists everywhere. In 2020 Trump’s ugliness vs his results will be taken into account. This will then be compared to an opponent who hopefully will not have the baggage of Clinton ugliness. Again the voters will make a choice. Just like in Alabama if Republicans feel the ugliness factor is too great compared to the alternative they will stay home. Everyone should finally chill out and recognize that the deplorables are capable of making this decision.
    What you’re missing is that trump’s agenda was his ugliness. Clinton’s ugliness was not in her agenda. trump supporters heard his agenda that was rooted in racism and bigotry and then chose to vote him. Some rationalized it in the hopes that he would magically turn ‘presidential’. Others wanted him to be himself because they saw themselves in him and he provided a mouthpiece for their beliefs. 6 outof 10 trump supporters will cntinue to support him no matter what he does. This is condoning his ugliness 
  • we may end up with a constitutional crisis on our hands. see this twitter thread from Seth Abramson, an attorney.


    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • we may end up with a constitutional crisis on our hands. see this twitter thread from Seth Abramson, an attorney.


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  • See? Someone who has nothing to hide, has no business in or with Russia, Russia, Russia or hasn’t colluded, colluded, colluded, always considers firing the special counsel investigating their administration. It’s a sure sign of innocence, by golly gee.

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  • Monday, mondays, tell me why, I don’t like moooondays, tell me why, I don’t like, I don’t like, mooooooondaaaaaays? Tell me why? 

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  • Wait, wait, wait, wait for it. Emails on a government server. Godfather, this ones for you:

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    wait

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,432
    Don,

    Please FUCK OFF.

    Fuck you,

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