I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
Oh I don't disagree. There are some stinkers in the mix, for sure.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
Oh I don't disagree. There are some stinkers in the mix, for sure.
Unfortunately/understandably most of them have come from the past two or three albums.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
What makes a song suck? It's art, and it's subjective.
I can think of some aspects that make a song or band objectively bad (overly simple or repetitive lyrics, conflicting sound arrangements, discordant vocals, formulaic and derivative themes, lack of sonic diversity etc.) and the only Pearl Jam songs that fall into that category are the non-songs like Stupid Mop. Dirty Frank isn't a great song, and I wouldn't be surprised if Ed doesn't like it much, but it doesn't suck and I would be surprised if he would say so about that song if someone else wrote it.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
What makes a song suck? It's art, and it's subjective.
I can think of some aspects that make a song or band objectively bad (overly simple or repetitive lyrics, conflicting sound arrangements, discordant vocals, formulaic and derivative themes, lack of sonic diversity etc.) and the only Pearl Jam songs that fall into that category are the non-songs like Stupid Mop. Dirty Frank isn't a great song, and I wouldn't be surprised if Ed doesn't like it much, but it doesn't suck and I would be surprised if he would say so about that song if someone else wrote it.
Well, even though it's subjective, if I drew you a picture I'm pretty sure all would agree it sucks.
Such a good album with so many good songs. Picking one of these to get rid of is like asking me to pick which one of my kids I should get rid of...
Actually, come next round, it probably would be easier to ask me which kid to get rid of.
When it comes down to it, we all probably have our own favourite or two (songs, not kids) and if one of them is still remaining in the final round, it's an easy choice as to which has to go.
Now if there is indeed a round 5 with just two songs and those two songs happen to be Corduroy and Immortality (which is looking like a good possibility), I'm in trouble.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
What makes a song suck? It's art, and it's subjective.
I can think of some aspects that make a song or band objectively bad (overly simple or repetitive lyrics, conflicting sound arrangements, discordant vocals, formulaic and derivative themes, lack of sonic diversity etc.) and the only Pearl Jam songs that fall into that category are the non-songs like Stupid Mop. Dirty Frank isn't a great song, and I wouldn't be surprised if Ed doesn't like it much, but it doesn't suck and I would be surprised if he would say so about that song if someone else wrote it.
Well, even though it's subjective, if I drew you a picture I'm pretty sure all would agree it sucks.
My picture would suck worse! No doubt of it!
There are objective means of assessing the technical proficiency of art, though they are subject to be overridden by more subjective factors. My paintings would show terrible brush stroke techniques and idiotic uses of Color, but maybe the abstract value would be worthy to some.
Songs are similar, a song like Dirty Frank can be technically proficient and still not be very well liked, and a song like Wishlist can be devoid of technical proficiency and still be well received. The point is that Tremor Christ doesn't suck, objectively, even if it isn't your cup of tea. I would say the same about someone like Def Leopard, but not Beyonce or Florida Georgia Line.
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
What makes a song suck? It's art, and it's subjective.
I can think of some aspects that make a song or band objectively bad (overly simple or repetitive lyrics, conflicting sound arrangements, discordant vocals, formulaic and derivative themes, lack of sonic diversity etc.) and the only Pearl Jam songs that fall into that category are the non-songs like Stupid Mop. Dirty Frank isn't a great song, and I wouldn't be surprised if Ed doesn't like it much, but it doesn't suck and I would be surprised if he would say so about that song if someone else wrote it.
Well, even though it's subjective, if I drew you a picture I'm pretty sure all would agree it sucks.
My picture would suck worse! No doubt of it!
There are objective means of assessing the technical proficiency of art, though they are subject to be overridden by more subjective factors. My paintings would show terrible brush stroke techniques and idiotic uses of Color, but maybe the abstract value would be worthy to some.
Songs are similar, a song like Dirty Frank can be technically proficient and still not be very well liked, and a song like Wishlist can be devoid of technical proficiency and still be well received. The point is that Tremor Christ doesn't suck, objectively, even if it isn't your cup of tea. I would say the same about someone like Def Leopard, but not Beyonce or Florida Georgia Line.
Whereas the latter two, both suck .. proficiently !
I honestly can't say that I think any Pearl Jam song sucks. Yes many I love and many I like. There are even couple that I don't like. However I understand musical and lyrical composition enough and have such tremendous respect for the artists that I personally would never make that statement.
There s plenty of Pearl Jam songs that suck and the band knows it!
Really? They know it? Do tell. How do you possess that knowledge?
I actually don't think I'd say any of them "suck". As @shetellsherself said, some I don't like.
I remember Ed saying at a show that Dirty Frank sucks. Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
Ed says a lot of things.
True. I just think its funny when people say no Pearl Jam song sucks. They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
What makes a song suck? It's art, and it's subjective.
I can think of some aspects that make a song or band objectively bad (overly simple or repetitive lyrics, conflicting sound arrangements, discordant vocals, formulaic and derivative themes, lack of sonic diversity etc.) and the only Pearl Jam songs that fall into that category are the non-songs like Stupid Mop. Dirty Frank isn't a great song, and I wouldn't be surprised if Ed doesn't like it much, but it doesn't suck and I would be surprised if he would say so about that song if someone else wrote it.
Well, even though it's subjective, if I drew you a picture I'm pretty sure all would agree it sucks.
My picture would suck worse! No doubt of it!
There are objective means of assessing the technical proficiency of art, though they are subject to be overridden by more subjective factors. My paintings would show terrible brush stroke techniques and idiotic uses of Color, but maybe the abstract value would be worthy to some.
Songs are similar, a song like Dirty Frank can be technically proficient and still not be very well liked, and a song like Wishlist can be devoid of technical proficiency and still be well received. The point is that Tremor Christ doesn't suck, objectively, even if it isn't your cup of tea. I would say the same about someone like Def Leopard, but not Beyonce or Florida Georgia Line.
I want to go home and listen to Dirty Frank now.
"That Dirty Frank is a bad mother...." "Watch your mouth!"
Immortality get zero so far..there is still some brain in our heads..
This is only because I am reserving my vote until tomorrow in case I need to vote strategically. Otherwise it would be Immortality all the way. One of my least favorite off the album and all around as well.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Immortality get zero so far..there is still some brain in our heads..
This is only because I am reserving my vote until tomorrow in case I need to vote strategically. Otherwise it would be Immortality all the way. One of my least favorite off the album and all around as well.
How can you vote strategically if you can see the vote totals until you actually vote yourself?
Immortality get zero so far..there is still some brain in our heads..
This is only because I am reserving my vote until tomorrow in case I need to vote strategically. Otherwise it would be Immortality all the way. One of my least favorite off the album and all around as well.
How can you vote strategically if you can see the vote totals until you actually vote yourself?
You can..go to another poll and see..
Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015. Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022 EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Immortality get zero so far..there is still some brain in our heads..
This is only because I am reserving my vote until tomorrow in case I need to vote strategically. Otherwise it would be Immortality all the way. One of my least favorite off the album and all around as well.
How can you vote strategically if you can see the vote totals until you actually vote yourself?
I have people on the inside.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Immortality get zero so far..there is still some brain in our heads..
This is only because I am reserving my vote until tomorrow in case I need to vote strategically. Otherwise it would be Immortality all the way. One of my least favorite off the album and all around as well.
How can you vote strategically if you can see the vote totals until you actually vote yourself?
You can..go to another poll and see..
The issue here is that whenever I see a poll, I feel the urge to vote. For this reason, I can't seem to find any recent polls that I haven't voted in!
Immortality get zero so far..there is still some brain in our heads..
This is only because I am reserving my vote until tomorrow in case I need to vote strategically. Otherwise it would be Immortality all the way. One of my least favorite off the album and all around as well.
How can you vote strategically if you can see the vote totals until you actually vote yourself?
Immortality get zero so far..there is still some brain in our heads..
This is only because I am reserving my vote until tomorrow in case I need to vote strategically. Otherwise it would be Immortality all the way. One of my least favorite off the album and all around as well.
How can you vote strategically if you can see the vote totals until you actually vote yourself?
Edit. Not sure if posting songs from the 2000 tour is cool around here so I decided to remove my initial post. FWIW: It was just a short playlist that included the nine Vitalogy songs that performed at least once during the 2000 tour - a time when these still very raw but still the band still had time to perfect them. The "seamless" playlist goes like so: 1. Corduroy (Las Vegas) 2. Last Exit (Sacramento) 3. Spin The Black Circle (Seattle 1) 4. Not For You (Mansfield 2) 5. Tremor Christ (Memphis) 6. Nothingman (San Bernardino) 7. Whipping (Woodlands) 8. Better Man (Kansas City) 9. Immortality (Toronto) Unfortunately, Satan's Bed wasn't played in 2000. Again, I'd be happy to share this if anyone's interested - and am allowed to do so.
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Although, I kinda do like that song. Probably only because I almost never listen to it though.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
They've released probably close to 200 songs by now/? It would be just shy of a miracle for none of them to suck. I don't think it would be disrespectful to say that a handful out of 200 are just bad. Most bands cant even put together a "Greatest Hits" album without some crappy fillers. The fact they can record 200 songs and have enough good material to fill a greatest hits album several times over if they wanted is amazing.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
It's art, and it's subjective.
I can think of some aspects that make a song or band objectively bad (overly simple or repetitive lyrics, conflicting sound arrangements, discordant vocals, formulaic and derivative themes, lack of sonic diversity etc.) and the only Pearl Jam songs that fall into that category are the non-songs like Stupid Mop.
Dirty Frank isn't a great song, and I wouldn't be surprised if Ed doesn't like it much, but it doesn't suck and I would be surprised if he would say so about that song if someone else wrote it.
Now if there is indeed a round 5 with just two songs and those two songs happen to be Corduroy and Immortality (which is looking like a good possibility), I'm in trouble.
There are objective means of assessing the technical proficiency of art, though they are subject to be overridden by more subjective factors.
My paintings would show terrible brush stroke techniques and idiotic uses of Color, but maybe the abstract value would be worthy to some.
Songs are similar, a song like Dirty Frank can be technically proficient and still not be very well liked, and a song like Wishlist can be devoid of technical proficiency and still be well received.
The point is that Tremor Christ doesn't suck, objectively, even if it isn't your cup of tea. I would say the same about someone like Def Leopard, but not Beyonce or Florida Georgia Line.
At least that's what I got from that...
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
"That Dirty Frank is a bad mother...."
"Watch your mouth!"
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Philadelphia 2016 (Night 2)
Upper Darby 2016 (Night 2) (Temple of the Dog)
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
I'll keep looking, I suppose.
Don't let this sway your opinion in any way whatsoever.
FWIW: It was just a short playlist that included the nine Vitalogy songs that performed at least once during the 2000 tour - a time when these still very raw but still the band still had time to perfect them. The "seamless" playlist goes like so:
1. Corduroy (Las Vegas)
2. Last Exit (Sacramento)
3. Spin The Black Circle (Seattle 1)
4. Not For You (Mansfield 2)
5. Tremor Christ (Memphis)
6. Nothingman (San Bernardino)
7. Whipping (Woodlands)
8. Better Man (Kansas City)
9. Immortality (Toronto)
Unfortunately, Satan's Bed wasn't played in 2000.
Again, I'd be happy to share this if anyone's interested - and am allowed to do so.