***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • mfc2006 said:
    He should start playing Crazy Train at his stupid as fuck rallies.
    Solid advice.
    This is funny.  How are his rallies hurting him?
    In reality a rally should be rallying in reality for the dems right now.



  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    2019
    This guy is all for it. .........

    Science envoy spells out "impeach" in resignation letter
    That's great. The arts group spelled out "resist" last week. 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    #peetape
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Can you say, "obstruction of justice?" Can you look in the mirror and ask yourself, "if the president of the US is innocent, as he so vehemently claims he is, why the repeated attempts to stop the investigation into his ties to Russia?"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2017/08/24/7-times-trump-tried-to-call-off-the-dogs-on-russia/
     


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Yea, Trump didn't know any Russians. Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTAPE, all the way to impeachment. Notice those brilliantly disappearing brilliant headlines in all their brilliance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-business-sought-deal-on-a-trump-tower-in-moscow-while-he-ran-for-president/2017/08/27/d6e95114-8b65-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_trumprussia-9pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.5f6092b56c33
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  • Yea, Trump didn't know any Russians. Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTAPE, all the way to impeachment. Notice those brilliantly disappearing brilliant headlines in all their brilliance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-business-sought-deal-on-a-trump-tower-in-moscow-while-he-ran-for-president/2017/08/27/d6e95114-8b65-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_trumprussia-9pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.5f6092b56c33

    Yourself and bpop haven't voted.  Why not?  I didn't vote because there was no option of "He won't be impeached"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    I've made my thoughts on this well known, if you've been paying attention.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Manafort

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-seeks-grand-jury-testimony-pr-execs-who-worked-manafort-n796066

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued grand jury subpoenas in recent days seeking testimony from public relations executives who worked on an international campaign organized by Paul Manafort, people directly familiar with the matter told NBC News.
    Two of the firms, Podesta Group and Mercury LLC, worked in Washington with Manafort partner Rick Gates, according to lobbying disclosure records. Three other firms worked in Europe, the executive said. NBC News could not confirm the identity of those three.
    In  recent months, the Justice Department told the Mercury and Podesta firms that they should have registered as foreign agents, and they did so.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:
    Manafort

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-seeks-grand-jury-testimony-pr-execs-who-worked-manafort-n796066

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued grand jury subpoenas in recent days seeking testimony from public relations executives who worked on an international campaign organized by Paul Manafort, people directly familiar with the matter told NBC News.
    Two of the firms, Podesta Group and Mercury LLC, worked in Washington with Manafort partner Rick Gates, according to lobbying disclosure records. Three other firms worked in Europe, the executive said. NBC News could not confirm the identity of those three.
    In  recent months, the Justice Department told the Mercury and Podesta firms that they should have registered as foreign agents, and they did so.
    Hahaha JC hears "Podesta" 

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    rgambs said:
    JC29856 said:
    Manafort

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mueller-seeks-grand-jury-testimony-pr-execs-who-worked-manafort-n796066

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued grand jury subpoenas in recent days seeking testimony from public relations executives who worked on an international campaign organized by Paul Manafort, people directly familiar with the matter told NBC News.
    Two of the firms, Podesta Group and Mercury LLC, worked in Washington with Manafort partner Rick Gates, according to lobbying disclosure records. Three other firms worked in Europe, the executive said. NBC News could not confirm the identity of those three.
    In  recent months, the Justice Department told the Mercury and Podesta firms that they should have registered as foreign agents, and they did so.
    Hahaha JC hears "Podesta" 


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    The Podesta Whisperer strikes again.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    2019
    Yea, Trump didn't know any Russians. Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTAPE, all the way to impeachment. Notice those brilliantly disappearing brilliant headlines in all their brilliance.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-business-sought-deal-on-a-trump-tower-in-moscow-while-he-ran-for-president/2017/08/27/d6e95114-8b65-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_trumprussia-9pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.5f6092b56c33
    "I have no business in Russia...."

    Sure, don. Sure.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/28/trump-is-dragging-us-towards-a-full-blown-crisis-heres-what-has-to-happen-now/?undefined=&utm_term=.5e67315ef039&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

    Grounds for impeachment?

    Legal experts told me that if Trump were to do this, it could constitute grounds for impeachment — even if his legal power to do it is uncontested.

    “If a president uses a pardon to buy the silence of a defendant or suspect in a criminal case, the witness will still go free,” Robert Bauer, a former White House counsel under Barack Obama, told me. “But the president could face impeachment. Congress is not bound by the requirements for formal legal liability: A High Crime as a basis for impeachment might overlap with the version in the legal system, but there is no requirement that it do. Congress makes its own determination in judging whether the president should remain in office.”

    Congress could pretty clearly use this as a basis for impeachment,” Martin Redish, a professor of constitutional law at Northwestern University, added in an email to me. “This isn’t just another controversial move by a controversial president. This is the first salvo in a war for the survival of American constitutionalism.”


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  • ^^^
    That article is filled w/ a bunch of coulds.  If those coulds actually turn into something then it's valid.  As for now it's a nothingburger story again filled with what could happen. It's kind of like saying these two buns could have a patty and cheese to make it a burger but it doesn't yet.


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    2019
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/28/trump-is-dragging-us-towards-a-full-blown-crisis-heres-what-has-to-happen-now/?undefined=&utm_term=.5e67315ef039&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

    Grounds for impeachment?

    Legal experts told me that if Trump were to do this, it could constitute grounds for impeachment — even if his legal power to do it is uncontested.

    “If a president uses a pardon to buy the silence of a defendant or suspect in a criminal case, the witness will still go free,” Robert Bauer, a former White House counsel under Barack Obama, told me. “But the president could face impeachment. Congress is not bound by the requirements for formal legal liability: A High Crime as a basis for impeachment might overlap with the version in the legal system, but there is no requirement that it do. Congress makes its own determination in judging whether the president should remain in office.”

    Congress could pretty clearly use this as a basis for impeachment,” Martin Redish, a professor of constitutional law at Northwestern University, added in an email to me. “This isn’t just another controversial move by a controversial president. This is the first salvo in a war for the survival of American constitutionalism.”



    Many roads to impeachment. This would be one of said roads...
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  • ^^^
    They use the word could.  I could travel to the moon on a spaceship if I had one.  Many roads.  I will find a different one though because I sure as shit aint gonna get a spaceship anytime soon.

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    edited August 2017
    2019
    ^^^
    They use the word could.  I could travel to the moon on a spaceship if I had one.  Many roads.  I will find a different one though because I sure as shit aint gonna get a spaceship anytime soon.


    slow.death.march.to.impeachment.enjoy.the.ride


    ^

    could.

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    #ITMFA
  • #ITMFA

    What is that newest hashtag stand for?  What is your vote in this poll?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    My god, what is Trump hiding? But hey, make yourselves more untenable.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/28/mueller-investigation-republicans-russia-242108
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
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    #ITMFA
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Now it all makes sense, 3D's overactivity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/29/what-more-proof-of-a-secret-russian-connection-do-we-need/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d:homepage/story&utm_term=.bd0909e6470d

    Evidence that then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was pursuing a lucrative business deal with Russia and that his personal attorney, Michael Cohen, emailed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s personal spokesman to intervene raises the stakes in Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation substantially. The Post reports:

    Cohen’s email to [Dmitry] Peskov provides an example of a Trump business official directly seeking Kremlin assistance in advancing Trump’s business interests. … Cohen said he discussed the deal three times with Trump and that Trump signed a letter of intent with the company on Oct. 28, 2015. He said the Trump company began to solicit designs from architects and discuss financing.


    But I don't have any business with Russia, I barely know Putin, never heard of him, Crooked Hillary!

    Ethics expert Norman Eisen warns: “Now we have a second group of emails from those in Trump’s orbit suggesting high-level outreach to Russia in and around the election season. Like the now-famous email exchange with Don Jr. about Russia’s ‘support for Mr. Trump,’ these new documents promising that ‘Putin’s team’ will ‘buy in’ on Trump raise the question of what the president knew of all this and when he knew it.” He tells me, “The emails add important additional evidence to the special counsel’s investigation, both as to possible collusion and as to obstruction of justice, inasmuch as they deepen the suspicion of a possible malign Trump motive for attempting to block the Russia investigation.”

    Now, Cohen insists to The Post that the Trump Tower Moscow proposal was “not related in any way to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.” But of course, we don’t know that and neither does he. Mueller, however, will be looking for evidence, as Eisen puts it, “that Trump or his agents actually agreed to better treatment for Putin and Russia in exchange for a present or future Trump Tower Moscow.” That would, he says, “go beyond collusion to outright corruption.” But even without a smoking gun showing a quid pro quo, the extent to which Trump was compromised — and may remain so — should concern Congress and the voters.

    USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA!

    As we learn more about Trump’s Russian dealings, his actions in trying to shut down the investigation become more understandable. “These new emails make the obstruction charge more substantial, because it gives heavier context to the cover-up,” says Fordham law professor Jed Shugerman. “There was fire under all that smoke. The firing of Comey was already impeachable as obstruction, but it’s politically more powerful in connecting the cover-up to real corruption.”

    The extent of Trump’s political and legal jeopardy slowly comes into focus with new, daily discoveries. Clint Watts, a former FBI special agent (who has testified on Russian meddling) and now a fellow with the Foreign Policy Research Institute, tells me, “Trump’s claims to have nothing to do with Russia are clearly false with revelations Cohen emailed the Kremlin directly to gain support for a Trump Tower Moscow. Trump’s laudatory comments of Putin came at times when Trump’s companies also sought Kremlin-assisted business help.” He continues, “Some will interpret Felix Sater’s comments as over-the-top salesmanship leading to no direct connections with the Kremlin. But why would Sater believe he would get ‘Putin on this program’ and that the Kremlin could get Trump elected?” Unless Sater chooses to take the Fifth Amendment, we won’t have to guess; Mueller’s team will no doubt question him and include the findings in his final report.

    All of this comes in the context of Trump’s eagerness during the campaign for Russia to hack and release Hillary Clinton’s emails. “[The Cohen] emails came at a time when Russia’s hacking teams breached the DNC and numerous other American targets and Russian media began promoting Trump even though he seemed nothing more than a reality TV star looking for attention,” Watts observes. “For those that continue to deny Russian meddling, I can’t imagine what additional evidence they would need to know that Russia sought to elect Trump, and Team Trump wasn’t adverse to it, and maybe even hopeful for it.”

    Republicans have refused to address this issue in any serious way, allowing the conflicts to fester and Trump’s finances to remain opaque. Congress has the power to legislate — to disallow emoluments, require divestiture of businesses, bar relatives (with their own holdings) from serving in government and mandate disclosure of tax returns. In failing to take any action, Republicans are complicit in Trump’s debasement of the presidency and of our democracy.

    #UNTENABLE
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Now it all makes sense, 3D's overactivity.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/29/what-more-proof-of-a-secret-russian-connection-do-we-need/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d:homepage/story&utm_term=.bd0909e6470d

    Evidence that then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was pursuing a lucrative business deal with Russia and that his personal attorney, Michael Cohen, emailed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s personal spokesman to intervene raises the stakes in Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation substantially. The Post reports:

    Cohen’s email to [Dmitry] Peskov provides an example of a Trump business official directly seeking Kremlin assistance in advancing Trump’s business interests. … Cohen said he discussed the deal three times with Trump and that Trump signed a letter of intent with the company on Oct. 28, 2015. He said the Trump company began to solicit designs from architects and discuss financing.


    But I don't have any business with Russia, I barely know Putin, never heard of him, Crooked Hillary!

    Ethics expert Norman Eisen warns: “Now we have a second group of emails from those in Trump’s orbit suggesting high-level outreach to Russia in and around the election season. Like the now-famous email exchange with Don Jr. about Russia’s ‘support for Mr. Trump,’ these new documents promising that ‘Putin’s team’ will ‘buy in’ on Trump raise the question of what the president knew of all this and when he knew it.” He tells me, “The emails add important additional evidence to the special counsel’s investigation, both as to possible collusion and as to obstruction of justice, inasmuch as they deepen the suspicion of a possible malign Trump motive for attempting to block the Russia investigation.”

    Now, Cohen insists to The Post that the Trump Tower Moscow proposal was “not related in any way to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.” But of course, we don’t know that and neither does he. Mueller, however, will be looking for evidence, as Eisen puts it, “that Trump or his agents actually agreed to better treatment for Putin and Russia in exchange for a present or future Trump Tower Moscow.” That would, he says, “go beyond collusion to outright corruption.” But even without a smoking gun showing a quid pro quo, the extent to which Trump was compromised — and may remain so — should concern Congress and the voters.

    USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA!

    As we learn more about Trump’s Russian dealings, his actions in trying to shut down the investigation become more understandable. “These new emails make the obstruction charge more substantial, because it gives heavier context to the cover-up,” says Fordham law professor Jed Shugerman. “There was fire under all that smoke. The firing of Comey was already impeachable as obstruction, but it’s politically more powerful in connecting the cover-up to real corruption.”

    The extent of Trump’s political and legal jeopardy slowly comes into focus with new, daily discoveries. Clint Watts, a former FBI special agent (who has testified on Russian meddling) and now a fellow with the Foreign Policy Research Institute, tells me, “Trump’s claims to have nothing to do with Russia are clearly false with revelations Cohen emailed the Kremlin directly to gain support for a Trump Tower Moscow. Trump’s laudatory comments of Putin came at times when Trump’s companies also sought Kremlin-assisted business help.” He continues, “Some will interpret Felix Sater’s comments as over-the-top salesmanship leading to no direct connections with the Kremlin. But why would Sater believe he would get ‘Putin on this program’ and that the Kremlin could get Trump elected?” Unless Sater chooses to take the Fifth Amendment, we won’t have to guess; Mueller’s team will no doubt question him and include the findings in his final report.

    All of this comes in the context of Trump’s eagerness during the campaign for Russia to hack and release Hillary Clinton’s emails. “[The Cohen] emails came at a time when Russia’s hacking teams breached the DNC and numerous other American targets and Russian media began promoting Trump even though he seemed nothing more than a reality TV star looking for attention,” Watts observes. “For those that continue to deny Russian meddling, I can’t imagine what additional evidence they would need to know that Russia sought to elect Trump, and Team Trump wasn’t adverse to it, and maybe even hopeful for it.”

    Republicans have refused to address this issue in any serious way, allowing the conflicts to fester and Trump’s finances to remain opaque. Congress has the power to legislate — to disallow emoluments, require divestiture of businesses, bar relatives (with their own holdings) from serving in government and mandate disclosure of tax returns. In failing to take any action, Republicans are complicit in Trump’s debasement of the presidency and of our democracy.

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    Nothing to see here....move along.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    More to come:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/politics/mueller-manafort-attorney-spokesman-subpoenas/index.html

    The subpoenas seeking documents and testimony were sent to Melissa Laurenza, an attorney with the Akin Gump law firm who until recently represented Manafort, and to Jason Maloni, who is Manafort's spokesman, according to people familiar with the matter.
    Manafort is under investigation for possible tax and financial crimes, according to US officials briefed on the investigation. The allegations under investigation largely center on Manafort's work for the former ruling party in Ukraine, which was ousted amid street protests over its pro-Russian policies.

    Impeachment is like a box of chocolates, you don't know if its for Father's Day, Valentine's Day, Christmas or just because. Stupid is as stupid does. Run Trump, run.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    #ITMFA
  • #ITMFA

    Well you got a +1 for it before.  So #ITMFA
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    I guess when it rains, it pours.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/politics/trump-jr-russia-senate-testimony/index.html

    Donny, Jr. Doesn't want to be on tape stammering, I guess? I wonder if transcribers get all the umms, ahhs and I don't recalls?
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  • I guess when it rains, it pours.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/politics/trump-jr-russia-senate-testimony/index.html

    Donny, Jr. Doesn't want to be on tape stammering, I guess? I wonder if transcribers get all the umms, ahhs and I don't recalls?

    What does that say about the state of your officials allowing a private meeting?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    I guess when it rains, it pours.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/politics/trump-jr-russia-senate-testimony/index.html

    Donny, Jr. Doesn't want to be on tape stammering, I guess? I wonder if transcribers get all the umms, ahhs and I don't recalls?

    What does that say about the state of your officials allowing a private meeting?
    Republicans set the rules.
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  • Ha, ha.  Is anyone going to listen this time or will dems be left behind again in 2020
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/michael-moore-trump-on-track-for-reelection/ar-AAqWVlX?li=AAggFp5&ocid=mailsignout



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