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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    Smellyman said:
    If you're a woman and in the GOP, you are definitely not moderate.
    I don't think that is true
    Yeah, if they're dumb AF and don't know wtf is going on with the GOP at all, that might not be true.
    Susan Collins... Lisa Murkowski... both come to mind right off the top of the head... both women who are moderate Republicans... pretty sure Nicki Haley was moderate... shit,  Condi is a black female moderate republican that just might be the 2nd black POTUS one day... i'm sure there are more, thats just the national level
    Collins voted with Trump more than any other senator this year.
    Murkowski has higher conservative "scores" than Collins.


    Collins is generally considered themist moderare Republican senator... although i know she voted for Kav... and both of them voted down the health care resolution if I remember... both are pro abortion rights... i'm not saying they are Nancy Pelosi, but they are considered moderate female Republicans 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    my2hands said:
    The Juggler said:
    my2hands said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    my2hands said:
    Smellyman said:
    If you're a woman and in the GOP, you are definitely not moderate.
    I don't think that is true
    Yeah, if they're dumb AF and don't know wtf is going on with the GOP at all, that might not be true.
    Susan Collins... Lisa Murkowski... both come to mind right off the top of the head... both women who are moderate Republicans... pretty sure Nicki Haley was moderate... shit,  Condi is a black female moderate republican that just might be the 2nd black POTUS one day... i'm sure there are more, thats just the national level
    Collins voted with Trump more than any other senator this year.
    Murkowski has higher conservative "scores" than Collins.


    Collins is generally considered themist moderare Republican senator... although i know she voted for Kav... and both of them voted down the health care resolution if I remember... both are pro abortion rights... i'm not saying they are Nancy Pelosi, but they are considered moderate female Republicans 
    Which basically makes them “extreme” seeing how far right the repubs are.
     
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,940
    2018
    I really don't get why the Trump thread has been closed at this time (although overall I think it's clear why it was) ... anyway, should we assume from Kat's post that it's going to reopen?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    I blame the pesky Canadians :)
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,921
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,940
    2018
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    No, he could do whatever he wanted to during the campaign in terms of legal business deals. The problem is all the lying since as well as possible collusion between him and/or his campaign and the Russians to affect the election in Trump's favour. As well as, of course, Trump's continuing involvement in his business affairs and everything that involves because he's POTUS, the way he's been fraudulently using the Trump Foundation, etc.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Mickeyrat posted a link that explains it pretty well but I think it’ll be perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy that will cause the senate to convict as it’ll be an election issue. Team Mueller has very intelligently listed the house and senate intelligence committees as what spurred Cohen’s recent plea deal. The integrity and honor of the senate will be on trial. Never mind the money laundering and tax evasion as a private citizen, candidate and potentially, President elect. There’s a reason we have a FICA. I believe Team Trump Treason violated it and have stated as such well before today.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,069
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Not sure what will make some republican senators turn. Right now we’re just at the surface of quid pro quo, or what trump supporters refer to as trump doing business transactions. It’ll be clearer soon what trump knew in the timeline. Meaning when was there proof of his knowledge of russian election meddling vs proof of his continuing deals with russia. This doesn’t even touch on The selling of American foreign policy to the Saudis and Russians. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,940
    2018
    Oh, Trump has broken TONS of laws, before and after being elected.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    Go Beavers said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Not sure what will make some republican senators turn. Right now we’re just at the surface of quid pro quo, or what trump supporters refer to as trump doing business transactions. It’ll be clearer soon what trump knew in the timeline. Meaning when was there proof of his knowledge of russian election meddling vs proof of his continuing deals with russia. This doesn’t even touch on The selling of American foreign policy to the Saudis and Russians. 
    FICA violations. Multiple and knowingly.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Mickeyrat posted a link that explains it pretty well but I think it’ll be perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy that will cause the senate to convict as it’ll be an election issue. Team Mueller has very intelligently listed the house and senate intelligence committees as what spurred Cohen’s recent plea deal. The integrity and honor of the senate will be on trial. Never mind the money laundering and tax evasion as a private citizen, candidate and potentially, President elect. There’s a reason we have a FICA. I believe Team Trump Treason violated it and have stated as such well before today.

    Go Beavers said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Not sure what will make some republican senators turn. Right now we’re just at the surface of quid pro quo, or what trump supporters refer to as trump doing business transactions. It’ll be clearer soon what trump knew in the timeline. Meaning when was there proof of his knowledge of russian election meddling vs proof of his continuing deals with russia. This doesn’t even touch on The selling of American foreign policy to the Saudis and Russians.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    Freaking quote feature! Arrrgh!

    And we now know that Donny,Jr. lied to the senate regarding the Russian tower deal and that Ivanka and Jared Dear Boy are potential targets. What was in and who were Ivanka’s emails to?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    “There was no collusion.”
    ”I don’t know any Russians.”
    ”I have nothing to hide.”
    ”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
    ”We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    2019
    So I caught up on this thread and then on the Donald Trump thread which I then saw was closed. 

    Are we using this thread to discuss all things Trump, or are we sticking with investigation integrity?

    Please and thank you. :smile:
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,940
    2018
    njnancy said:
    So I caught up on this thread and then on the Donald Trump thread which I then saw was closed. 

    Are we using this thread to discuss all things Trump, or are we sticking with investigation integrity?

    Please and thank you. :smile:
    Yeah, I think using this for all things Trump until the other one is reopened will work just fine. Both threads are basically one in the same.
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    njnancy said:
    So I caught up on this thread and then on the Donald Trump thread which I then saw was closed. 

    Are we using this thread to discuss all things Trump, or are we sticking with investigation integrity?

    Please and thank you. :smile:
    Yeah, I think using this for all things Trump until the other one is reopened will work just fine. Both threads are basically one in the same.
    Thanks. 
    I agree - someone mentioned combining the 3 threads which would be helpful. Unless I'm here everyday, by the time I catch up on each thread I don't know what to post where. 
  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    Lol

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    Leon Panetta on CNN saying how it’s always been about “following the money,” and “connecting dots.” I just wish he had added, “from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.”
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited December 2018
    2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Leon Panetta on CNN saying how it’s always been about “following the money,” and “connecting dots.” I just wish he had added, “from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.”

    And I was certain that Panetta was following your posts. Sorry, man. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,940
    edited December 2018
    2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Leon Panetta on CNN saying how it’s always been about “following the money,” and “connecting dots.” I just wish he had added, “from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.”
    :lol: I think if I'd heard that my mind would have automatically turned to you and added that on.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
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    Jeff Flake perhaps the most appropriately named politician of all time, tends to be all talk. Looks like he’s going to go out with a little bit of a spine.  Any republican standing in the way of the bill to protect Mueller is a traitor.  Looking at you, Majority Leader.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    OnWis97 said:
    Jeff Flake perhaps the most appropriately named politician of all time, tends to be all talk. Looks like he’s going to go out with a little bit of a spine.  Any republican standing in the way of the bill to protect Mueller is a traitor.  Looking at you, Majority Leader.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/419084-flake-mueller-bill-has-votes-to-pass-senate%3famp
    The establishment hates Team Trump Treason. McConnell is complicit and will never allow a vote. Republic be damned.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Mickeyrat posted a link that explains it pretty well but I think it’ll be perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy that will cause the senate to convict as it’ll be an election issue. Team Mueller has very intelligently listed the house and senate intelligence committees as what spurred Cohen’s recent plea deal. The integrity and honor of the senate will be on trial. Never mind the money laundering and tax evasion as a private citizen, candidate and potentially, President elect. There’s a reason we have a FICA. I believe Team Trump Treason violated it and have stated as such well before today.
    I think the breaking point will be when one (or multiple) members of his family are convicted or will be facing likely convictions and he pardons or attempts to pardon them. Clear obstruction there to even the most ardent of supporters. By that point ALL of the dirt will be out. Approval ratings will be even lower than they are now. The election will be right around the corner. The writing will be on the wall. It will be resignation instead of conviction after impeachment (which is happening, folks). Having the economy slow down a little earlier than anticipated will make it easier on the Republicans to urge him to step aside.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    2019
    I watched All the President's Men from start to finish for the first time the other night. I've always only caught bits and pieces of it. So well done.

    Parallels are so easy to spot...especially early on when people refused to believe it could all be true. 
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    2019
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm lazy.  Someone help me with this question.  Was it illegal for Donald Trump to be involved in or aware during his campaign of a building negotiation in Russia?   I'm just wondering what will be the item that causes Republicans to impeach.  That certainly won't.  Paying off some women won't.   I haven't heard anything yet that will make him be impeached.  Is it going to be perjury that does it?
    Mickeyrat posted a link that explains it pretty well but I think it’ll be perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy that will cause the senate to convict as it’ll be an election issue. Team Mueller has very intelligently listed the house and senate intelligence committees as what spurred Cohen’s recent plea deal. The integrity and honor of the senate will be on trial. Never mind the money laundering and tax evasion as a private citizen, candidate and potentially, President elect. There’s a reason we have a FICA. I believe Team Trump Treason violated it and have stated as such well before today.
    I think the breaking point will be when one (or multiple) members of his family are convicted or will be facing likely convictions and he pardons or attempts to pardon them. Clear obstruction there to even the most ardent of supporters. By that point ALL of the dirt will be out. Approval ratings will be even lower than they are now. The election will be right around the corner. The writing will be on the wall. It will be resignation instead of conviction after impeachment (which is happening, folks). Having the economy slow down a little earlier than anticipated will make it easier on the Republicans to urge him to step aside.

    #2019
    For the first time in this bizarre turn of events we call 'the last election',  I have a belief that he will not finish out his term.  I am a no for the P-tape viewing but I am a hell yes for reading the entire Mueller report. 

  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,103
    "THE FIELD"
    As I’ve been thinking the entire time, we didn’t have the right wing media when Nixon went down.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,964
    OnWis97 said:
    As I’ve been thinking the entire time, we didn’t have the right wing media when Nixon went down.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/opinion/sunday/robert-mueller-trump-manafort-corsi-report.html?fbclid=IwAR0p7BkWT41PiLVCkhuyNQrssTY8X2yylCAxs4tq0DPF_WOBrBnZCYddcPU
    And now we do, so?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,976
    edited December 2018
    It's well-nigh time to...

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    OnWis97 said:
    As I’ve been thinking the entire time, we didn’t have the right wing media when Nixon went down.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/01/opinion/sunday/robert-mueller-trump-manafort-corsi-report.html?fbclid=IwAR0p7BkWT41PiLVCkhuyNQrssTY8X2yylCAxs4tq0DPF_WOBrBnZCYddcPU
    So Trump should be impeached because Roger Stone knew wikileaks would be releasing John Podesta's emails? That is the jist of that opinion piece, i sure hope there is more than that
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