Should Andrew Puzder be confirmed as US Labor Secretary?

vaggar99

vaggar99

No

In 1984, I was hired as a cashier at Hardee’s in Columbia, S.C., making $4.25 an hour. By 2005, 21 years later, my pay was only at $8 an hour. That’s a $3.75 raise for a lifetime of work. Adjusted for inflation, it’s only a 2-cent raise.

https://washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/07/andy-puzder-will-be-a-disaster-for-workers-i-know-he-was-for-me/?utm_term=.2d9d50bfc27f

vaggar99

No

where are all the people fearing the demise of the working man now?

Dirtie_Frank

Yes

Maybe if you wanted to make more money you would not be a cashier at a fast food restaurant? Your logic is flawed as well, do you think you would never get a raise or a promotion at Hardens? Do you think you would stay a Hardee's cashier for 21 years? There are too many stories I know personally where employees at fast food restaurants cannot even do their tasks correctly and you want them to get paid $15 a hour. These jobs are not to raise a family on. Minimum skills, minimum experience = minimum wage.

RoleModelsinBlood31

vaggar99 said:

In 1984, I was hired as a cashier at Hardee’s in Columbia, S.C., making $4.25 an hour. By 2005, 21 years later, my pay was only at $8 an hour. That’s a $3.75 raise for a lifetime of work. Adjusted for inflation, it’s only a 2-cent raise.

https://washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/02/07/andy-puzder-will-be-a-disaster-for-workers-i-know-he-was-for-me/?utm_term=.2d9d50bfc27f

lol the person worked at Hardee's for 21 years! They should see if they can get in the Guinness book of world records, make some extra cash from the fame, that's gotta be a record.

vaggar99

No

okay, so providing an essential life need to our population is a low skill job, but doing the same thing over and over all day long in a factory is a high skilled job?

unsung

A cashier is not a life need. That position was replaced long ago by self checkout lines.

vaggar99

No

unsung said:

A cashier is not a life need. That position was replaced long ago by self checkout lines.

somebody still has to make the food. have you ever worked in a restaurant? i worked pizza delivery for 6 months once. it sucks. you are constantly inundated with the smell of the same food day after day. it got to me after a while. i couldn't eat pizza for at least another year after that.

unsung

Yeah, I did, in high school.

I started at 15 as a dishwasher and busboy at a family restaurant, worked at Dairy Queen, a gas station, and then delivered pizzas throughout high school. I've detasseled corn, worked concrete, picked onions in the fields with people that only spoke Spanish, cleaned hvac air ducts, and took other temp jobs in the summer while in school.

At some point you either accept your situation or you decide that you want more. Then do do what you chose.

You have to make yourself have value, always work to improve, or you get replaced.

rgambs

unsung said:

Yeah, I did, in high school.

I started at 15 as a dishwasher and busboy at a family restaurant, worked at Dairy Queen, a gas station, and then delivered pizzas throughout high school.

At some point you either accept your situation or you decide that you want more. Then do do what you chose.

It's not always that simple, when you have bills to pay you have to pay them, not everybody has a support system and putting yourself through school isn't a possibility now.

unsung

I don't buy it. People make poor life choices because consequences are minimal.

vaggar99

No

unsung said:

I don't buy it. People make poor life choices because consequences are minimal.

perhaps oversimplified. i think it's obvious that environment and genetics plays into it. i think its society's responsibility to recognize these disadvantages in our fellow man and help out. we all benefit in the end.

unsung

Eliminating the welfare state would be a good start.

I get that people sometimes fall on hard times and need a little help. A little help isn't for life though.

rgambs

unsung said:

I don't buy it. People make poor life choices because consequences are minimal.

Your purchase isn't necessary, truth isn't transactional.

PJPOWER

vaggar99 said:

okay, so providing an essential life need to our population is a low skill job, but doing the same thing over and over all day long in a factory is a high skilled job?

I do not know that providing fast food is an essential life need to our population. Farmers and ranchers growing the food, yes, but fast food is just a modern day convenience...and an unhealthy one at that. As a matter of fact, you would probably have to pay me a doctor's wage to actually eat at a Hardee's, McDonalds, *insert fast food chain...They should change the term to "Quick cheep-ass gut fucking food". If it weren't cheap as shit, no one would eat it...If it were more expensive due to forced higher wages, it would fail to exist=no wage for making cheap ass nasty food.

RoleModelsinBlood31

21 years as a cashier at Hardee's! lol holy shit where's the Tylenol

vaggar99

No

sad

PJPOWER

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

21 years as a cashier at Hardee's! lol holy shit where's the Tylenol

https://youtu.be/hTOKJTRHMdw

josevolution

I don't care at all everyone of his nominees got the nod the establishment doesn't care about the public at all , you got racists, you got all of Wall Street moguls , you got the Russian medal winner .

Go Beavers

unsung said:

Eliminating the welfare state would be a good start.

I get that people sometimes fall on hard times and need a little help. A little help isn't for life though.

Who's on public assistance for life?

Go Beavers

unsung said:

I don't buy it. People make poor life choices because consequences are minimal.

So say all of your "poor choice" people gained desireable skills. Would there be a better job for each one of them?