SPORT... a political beast or simply fun and games???

oftenreading

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

The silver one I should have been born with. Thanks for asking.

HughFreakingDillon

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

The silver one I should have been born with. Thanks for asking.

that's hilarious. that was pretty much exactly what I was going to respond with.

Bentleyspop

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

The silver one I should have been born with. Thanks for asking.

Not gold like the guy who sits in the Oval Office?

HughFreakingDillon

Bentleyspop said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

The silver one I should have been born with. Thanks for asking.

Not gold like the guy who sits in the Oval Office?

a golden spoon in his mouth and a golden shitter on his ass.

gold in.....gold out.

RoleModelsinBlood31

catefrances said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

It's only political if you choose or want it to be so. Sport is recreation to me anyway. I've played my whole life and continue to play and coach now in my 30's, and never thought it even could be political until I saw this thread. OP you say you land on one side of the debate, but is this even a debate people have?


No kid wants to play sports so they can get into politics, no one I've played with or coached anyway.

who said anyting about kids playing sport to get into politics?


and yes people have this debate.

and yes i agree sport IS recreation to just about everyone who does it. however that doesnt mean their are no political underpinnnings to sport.


horse racing isnt called the sport of kings for no reason.

I get you, fair enough, but I still think at its heart it's not political, it's recreational. Anything can be considered political at the international level, but I just don't see it that way until people politicize it. If you want to politicize chess, of course you can! but it's a game as well. I was doing yoga for a few hours today and was thinking about this a lot and I still didn't feel like I was doing anything political.

RoleModelsinBlood31

catefrances said:

oftenreading said:

The personal is political?

And not sure if you are mostly referring to professional sport or individuals playing sport. If you mean professional sport, then definitely. Political capital is made from that all the time.

absolutely the personal is political. much like religion, without people there is no politics.

YOU RUN LIKE A GIRL...

lets think about that statement for a minute.

hands up if you dont think there is anything inherently wrong with that statement. hands up if you think its a compliment and is used as such? sorry, but if your hand is up you are mistaken. oh and your gender bias is showing.

sport has always had a very important role in the construction of masculinity. males that didnt play sports, or as is the case these days, watch sports were, and no doubt in a lot of places, still are seen as not quite as manly as those who spend their saturday afternoons with their head in a scrum or cheering those with their head in a scrum. females on the other hand seen historically as fragile and constrained by society's desire for them to be ladylike(whetever the hell that means) were not encouraged to play physical sports. they were restricted to calisthenics and tennis as a social pursuit rather than a competitive one. i know a lot has change since the days when these opinions held sway but it can not be denied that womens sport has never had equal standing with mens sport and this is manifested today with less media coverage, inferior sporting status and yes less prize money.

when i was much younger, around 11 years old or so it was my desire to one day play rugby league. now truth be told, i had only ever seen males play but that didnt stop me from not only wanting to play, but thinking that i could play with the boys... that i had every right to play. i voiced this desire to a grown up and was told girls dont play footy, but you can be a cheerleader. i thought that was total bullshit... why the heck would i want to be a cheerleader. and more importantly how is that even an alternative??? this incident was one of the defining moments of my gender politics education. i had no doubt i was just as good as the boys and i often proved it(to myself) by frequently beating my brother in goal kicking practice and general footy pick up games. in my mind and my very being, i never ran like a girl... i ran like the footy player i was as i sprinted down the field. however society had already deemed by virtue of me being female i couldnt play with the males... that i was too fragile, that girls dont play footy.. footy is a boys sport and in my stll developing mind the more physcally demanding sports are for boys. NO GIRLS ALLOWED. of course things changed over time and now girls playing rugby league in mixed junior teams is nothing out of the ordinary and we now have a national team. though womens teams in traditionally 'male' sports are often dismissed as novelty.

You sound kinda angry, I'm not going near this issue! Let them play if they want to play, and may the best man & woman start on their team!

mfc2006

HughFreakingDillon said:

Bentleyspop said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

The silver one I should have been born with. Thanks for asking.

Not gold like the guy who sits in the Oval Office?

a golden spoon in his mouth and a golden shitter on his ass.

gold in.....gold out.

that's a very streamlined approach. I like it. Haha!

catefrances

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

catefrances said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

It's only political if you choose or want it to be so. Sport is recreation to me anyway. I've played my whole life and continue to play and coach now in my 30's, and never thought it even could be political until I saw this thread. OP you say you land on one side of the debate, but is this even a debate people have?


No kid wants to play sports so they can get into politics, no one I've played with or coached anyway.

who said anyting about kids playing sport to get into politics?


and yes people have this debate.

and yes i agree sport IS recreation to just about everyone who does it. however that doesnt mean their are no political underpinnnings to sport.


horse racing isnt called the sport of kings for no reason.

I get you, fair enough, but I still think at its heart it's not political, it's recreational. Anything can be considered political at the international level, but I just don't see it that way until people politicize it. If you want to politicize chess, of course you can! but it's a game as well. I was doing yoga for a few hours today and was thinking about this a lot and I still didn't feel like I was doing anything political.

im not speaking internationally here. im speaking of when sports were at their developmental level. though these days sport is used as a pawn when one country chucks a tantrum over something or other... my favourite was when russia boycotted the LA olympics saying at the tie it wasnt because the US had boycotted moscow. that kept me amused for weeks... actually come to think of it im still amused 33 years later. in ancient greece women werent allowed to watch sport cause the men played them in the nude... aside from the homo eroticism involved in that, do you not think it gender bias that women were excluded from not only participation but from spectating. there are so many instances throughout history of women being excluded from sport for often dumbarse reasons. not to mention sports divided along class and racial lines. even where you lived could determine the sport you play and those you were excluded from or considered inferior at. all these acts are political. over time theyve become invisible to those who view(more often than not subconsciouslessly) culture through the prism of the white patriarchy, you may scoff and call bullshit and insist you playing the sports you do is for fun and recreation, and ive no doubt that to be true... however its there nonetheless.

PJfanwillneverleave1

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

Are you debating as an American mind with this comment?
Or are you speaking as a Canadian in realtime?

rgambs

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

I prefer an overlord spoon myself, but I will accept a commie spoon or a statist spoon if I have to.

RoleModelsinBlood31

catefrances said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

catefrances said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

It's only political if you choose or want it to be so. Sport is recreation to me anyway. I've played my whole life and continue to play and coach now in my 30's, and never thought it even could be political until I saw this thread. OP you say you land on one side of the debate, but is this even a debate people have?


No kid wants to play sports so they can get into politics, no one I've played with or coached anyway.

who said anyting about kids playing sport to get into politics?


and yes people have this debate.

and yes i agree sport IS recreation to just about everyone who does it. however that doesnt mean their are no political underpinnnings to sport.


horse racing isnt called the sport of kings for no reason.

I get you, fair enough, but I still think at its heart it's not political, it's recreational. Anything can be considered political at the international level, but I just don't see it that way until people politicize it. If you want to politicize chess, of course you can! but it's a game as well. I was doing yoga for a few hours today and was thinking about this a lot and I still didn't feel like I was doing anything political.

im not speaking internationally here. im speaking of when sports were at their developmental level. though these days sport is used as a pawn when one country chucks a tantrum over something or other... my favourite was when russia boycotted the LA olympics saying at the tie it wasnt because the US had boycotted moscow. that kept me amused for weeks... actually come to think of it im still amused 33 years later. in ancient greece women werent allowed to watch sport cause the men played them in the nude... aside from the homo eroticism involved in that, do you not think it gender bias that women were excluded from not only participation but from spectating. there are so many instances throughout history of women being excluded from sport for often dumbarse reasons. not to mention sports divided along class and racial lines. even where you lived could determine the sport you play and those you were excluded from or considered inferior at. all these acts are political. over time theyve become invisible to those who view(more often than not subconsciouslessly) culture through the prism of the white patriarchy, you may scoff and call bullshit and insist you playing the sports you do is for fun and recreation, and ive no doubt that to be true... however its there nonetheless.

Hey where are you from if you don't me asking? I was guessing Australia for some reason, maybe the rugby made me think it? But it is played a lot of places. You said scrum and dumbarse, and spelled favorite with a u though so I'm also thinking Europe.

unsung

rgambs said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

I prefer an overlord spoon myself, but I will accept a commie spoon or a statist spoon if I have to.

It is funny that you mock and have nothing to disprove it. You are in a group here where govt does no wrong, unless it is a Republican, and that life is perfect when your dear leader is in charge. In the end the spoon type is irrelevant because you just keep asking for more.

rgambs

unsung said:

rgambs said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

What type of spoon do you prefer to be fed by?

I prefer an overlord spoon myself, but I will accept a commie spoon or a statist spoon if I have to.

It is funny that you mock and have nothing to disprove it. You are in a group here where govt does no wrong, unless it is a Republican, and that life is perfect when your dear leader is in charge. In the end the spoon type is irrelevant because you just keep asking for more.

What else would you expect from a bootlicker?

unsung

Actually I expect nothing.

Let's have an experiment. You run your policies the way you want to. Just don't force me to fund them.

Degeneratefk

unsung said:

Actually I expect nothing.

Let's have an experiment. You run your policies the way you want to. Just don't force me to fund them.

What are you ok paying for?

unsung

Depends on the level. Federally? Minimal. If it isn't part of Art 1 Sec VIII of the Constitution I don't want anything to do with it.

If I could I would opt out of SS and fund an IRA with that money. Government isn't supposed to be in charge of retirement plans, healthcare, subsidizing every third world person that claims to be a refugee, muh roads, etc...

Been through this many many times.

HughFreakingDillon

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Degeneratefk said:

unsung said:

I don't watch much anymore because I think they are designed to distract.

So the NFL, MLB, NHL, and nascar are all pawns of the government used to distract us dumb folk from the goings on of the world?

TV is called programming for a few reasons.

Have you guys been under a rock?

The NFL admitted to taking payments from the govt to let them advertise at events, all of those flyovers, all of those special soldiers on the field... Kinda makes you forget about those weddings that got hit by drone strikes.

haha, oh please. it's called programming because the very definition of the word is "to schedule".

yes, of course american sports have been infiltrated by the government's mandate to recruit soldiers. I always have said how odd it is that no one questions:

-military at sporting events
-singing the national anthems before playing a game

the two just don't go together for me. But, I also have zero patriotism, so it makes sense that it doesn't jive for me. But people just eat it up like it's no big thing.

and as gimme mentoined above, I always laugh when there's a beef between countries, politically or militarily, and the response from the west is always "FINE, then we won't play soccer with you in 2 years!".

Are you debating as an American mind with this comment?
Or are you speaking as a Canadian in realtime?

I only speak with my own mind.

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

Depends on the level. Federally? Minimal. If it isn't part of Art 1 Sec VIII of the Constitution I don't want anything to do with it.

If I could I would opt out of SS and fund an IRA with that money. Government isn't supposed to be in charge of retirement plans, healthcare, subsidizing every third world person that claims to be a refugee, muh roads, etc...

Been through this many many times.

every man, woman and child for themselves. such a nice way to live your life.

unsung

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Depends on the level. Federally? Minimal. If it isn't part of Art 1 Sec VIII of the Constitution I don't want anything to do with it.

If I could I would opt out of SS and fund an IRA with that money. Government isn't supposed to be in charge of retirement plans, healthcare, subsidizing every third world person that claims to be a refugee, muh roads, etc...

Been through this many many times.

every man, woman and child for themselves. such a nice way to live your life.

How do you arrive at that answer based on what I said?

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

Depends on the level. Federally? Minimal. If it isn't part of Art 1 Sec VIII of the Constitution I don't want anything to do with it.

If I could I would opt out of SS and fund an IRA with that money. Government isn't supposed to be in charge of retirement plans, healthcare, subsidizing every third world person that claims to be a refugee, muh roads, etc...

Been through this many many times.

every man, woman and child for themselves. such a nice way to live your life.

How do you arrive at that answer based on what I said?

it is based on that and many of your other posts.