Russia to decriminalise domestic violence

RoleModelsinBlood31

Yeah this is just absurd, is this even real?

PJ_Soul

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

jeffbr

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

Nobody? I'm pretty sure you got my point, but if you want to argue, we can talk about the meaning of absolutes.

Bentleyspop

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

Exactly!!
What they are is pro-choice
What they are is about letting a woman decide what is right for her and her body.
Not letting a man or a church or a government decide.

PJPOWER

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

So is it possible for a woman to believe that abortion=murder and to be against abortion because they are against murder? It's not a woman rights issue, it is a moral issue to them...just like murder is... Anyways, we should probably continue this debate in the appropriate thread before the forum hall monitors jump on our asses!

dignin

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Great explanation.

Go Beavers

PJPOWER said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

So is it possible for a woman to believe that abortion=murder and to be against abortion because they are against murder? It's not a woman rights issue, it is a moral issue to them...just like murder is... Anyways, we should probably continue this debate in the appropriate thread before the forum hall monitors jump on our asses!

And sadly a lot of anti-choice women voted for trump. I know several and they believe they made the decision to vote for trump for the greater good. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. trump is the furthest thing from good that I can think of.

PJPOWER

Go Beavers said:

PJPOWER said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

So is it possible for a woman to believe that abortion=murder and to be against abortion because they are against murder? It's not a woman rights issue, it is a moral issue to them...just like murder is... Anyways, we should probably continue this debate in the appropriate thread before the forum hall monitors jump on our asses!

And sadly a lot of anti-choice women voted for trump. I know several and they believe they made the decision to vote for trump for the greater good. Pretty ridiculous if you ask me. trump is the furthest thing from good that I can think of.

Exactly! I think you're starting to get my point! All women have different opinions on a number of things and I would be willing to say all have been objectified in some way or another. Regarding women as lesser "woman" because they are pro life distances many of those potential voters from supporting a "pro woman" party or platform. It should have been labeled a "pro choice" or "anti-religion" march...because that is more in line with the message. Otherwise the message should have been that all women are invited and should be heard an treated with respect...more in line with "I am woman, hear me" instead of "I am woman=I am pro choice" because the latter is not really an accurate portrayal of many many women.

PJ_Soul

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

Nobody? I'm pretty sure you got my point, but if you want to argue, we can talk about the meaning of absolutes.

You said "not everybody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion." I'm saying that nobody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion, unless you're talking about a handful of full-blown psychopaths who might be into such a thing, and chances are such people actually couldn't care less about the right to choose.

PJPOWER

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

Nobody? I'm pretty sure you got my point, but if you want to argue, we can talk about the meaning of absolutes.

You said "not everybody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion." I'm saying that nobody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion, unless you're talking about a handful of full-blown psychopaths who might be into such a thing, and chances are such people actually couldn't care less about the right to choose.

To add to that, not all women are pro-choice.

oftenreading

PJPOWER said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

Nobody? I'm pretty sure you got my point, but if you want to argue, we can talk about the meaning of absolutes.

You said "not everybody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion." I'm saying that nobody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion, unless you're talking about a handful of full-blown psychopaths who might be into such a thing, and chances are such people actually couldn't care less about the right to choose.

To add to that, not all women are pro-choice.

For the sake of thread integrity and to prevent annoying repetition, could we please keep the abortion discussion to the Women's March thread?

PJ_Soul

PJPOWER said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

Nobody? I'm pretty sure you got my point, but if you want to argue, we can talk about the meaning of absolutes.

You said "not everybody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion." I'm saying that nobody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion, unless you're talking about a handful of full-blown psychopaths who might be into such a thing, and chances are such people actually couldn't care less about the right to choose.

To add to that, not all women are pro-choice.

Obviously not (I would argue that they are also assholes, but....).

PJPOWER

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJPOWER said:

HesCalledDyer said:

And MEN in the United States felt it necessary to take to social media on Saturday (and some haven't yet let go) to question why women were marching. Here ya go, ya sick pigs. Here's YOUR President's best buddy. Fuck Trump. Fuck Putin.

For the record, I know a few women that are wondering what the purpose of the march was... Evidently if you are a pro-life woman, you are not enough of a woman to participate in a woman rights march. But I agree...fuck Putin.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and still be pro-freedom to allow women to decide what is best for their bodies and lives. Not everyone who is pro-choice is pro-abortion. They are simply proponents of self-determination. So if the women you know are opposed to allowing individuals to decide reproductive matters for themselves and would rather have that dictated to them by old, white men, then they probably wouldn't fit in with the majority of the marchers.

Nobody is "pro-abortion".

Nobody? I'm pretty sure you got my point, but if you want to argue, we can talk about the meaning of absolutes.

You said "not everybody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion." I'm saying that nobody who is pro-choice is pro-abortion, unless you're talking about a handful of full-blown psychopaths who might be into such a thing, and chances are such people actually couldn't care less about the right to choose.

To add to that, not all women are pro-choice.

Obviously not (I would argue that they are also assholes, but....).

At least we can all agree that "assholes" is not a gender inclusive term

rgambs

Am I the only one that pictured a badass Russian woman whooping wholesale ass on her husband??

Jason P

There was a viral video a few weeks ago where a Russian picked his girl friend up and threw her in a dumpster that was getting positive reviews in the USSR.

Annafalk

This is really unbelievable and disturbing news.