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HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
I don't recall him being Canadian as the banter has gone on over time.
All I know is that some focus far too much on American politics than Canadian.
If there was as much passion on AMT from the Canadians to discuss govt policy in Canada as there is for President Trump it would be a breath of fresh air.
So, Benjs, bump the Canadian redux thread and state your opinion about the statement from our PMs wife about IWD.

oh jesus. people can post wherever the fuck they want to. the current state of our world is more at stake with trump than it is with trudeau.

should israelis only post in the israel thread?

Or compelled to?

I think this is what fan is getting at.

the state of our politics in canada aren't nearly as dire as the state of politics in the states. there's not nearly as much to discuss because of that. the US directly impacts canada, not to mention most of the globe.

if trudeau had beaten harper and it was found out that china had POSSIBLY something to do with it, and we had the same war-happy government and size of military the US does, we'd be talking over there just as much.

Don't get me wrong... I get it.

Are you looking at buying McCready's book?

not after I saw the price. I'd love to see it, but for $80US with exchange and shipping.....why?

I'm thinking of doing it. Needed a nudge- someone to tell me, "Duh. Of course I'm getting it!"

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
I don't recall him being Canadian as the banter has gone on over time.
All I know is that some focus far too much on American politics than Canadian.
If there was as much passion on AMT from the Canadians to discuss govt policy in Canada as there is for President Trump it would be a breath of fresh air.
So, Benjs, bump the Canadian redux thread and state your opinion about the statement from our PMs wife about IWD.

oh jesus. people can post wherever the fuck they want to. the current state of our world is more at stake with trump than it is with trudeau.

should israelis only post in the israel thread?

Or compelled to?

I think this is what fan is getting at.

the state of our politics in canada aren't nearly as dire as the state of politics in the states. there's not nearly as much to discuss because of that. the US directly impacts canada, not to mention most of the globe.

if trudeau had beaten harper and it was found out that china had POSSIBLY something to do with it, and we had the same war-happy government and size of military the US does, we'd be talking over there just as much.

Don't get me wrong... I get it.

Are you looking at buying McCready's book?

not after I saw the price. I'd love to see it, but for $80US with exchange and shipping.....why?

I'm thinking of doing it. Needed a nudge- someone to tell me, "Duh. Of course I'm getting it!"

sounds like you might regret it if you don't. so do it.

mfc2006

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
I don't recall him being Canadian as the banter has gone on over time.
All I know is that some focus far too much on American politics than Canadian.
If there was as much passion on AMT from the Canadians to discuss govt policy in Canada as there is for President Trump it would be a breath of fresh air.
So, Benjs, bump the Canadian redux thread and state your opinion about the statement from our PMs wife about IWD.

oh jesus. people can post wherever the fuck they want to. the current state of our world is more at stake with trump than it is with trudeau.

should israelis only post in the israel thread?

Or compelled to?

I think this is what fan is getting at.

the state of our politics in canada aren't nearly as dire as the state of politics in the states. there's not nearly as much to discuss because of that. the US directly impacts canada, not to mention most of the globe.

if trudeau had beaten harper and it was found out that china had POSSIBLY something to do with it, and we had the same war-happy government and size of military the US does, we'd be talking over there just as much.

Don't get me wrong... I get it.

Are you looking at buying McCready's book?

not after I saw the price. I'd love to see it, but for $80US with exchange and shipping.....why?

I'm thinking of doing it. Needed a nudge- someone to tell me, "Duh. Of course I'm getting it!"

nudge

mfc2006

not going to get it myself, but may opt for the standard version down the road.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
I don't recall him being Canadian as the banter has gone on over time.
All I know is that some focus far too much on American politics than Canadian.
If there was as much passion on AMT from the Canadians to discuss govt policy in Canada as there is for President Trump it would be a breath of fresh air.
So, Benjs, bump the Canadian redux thread and state your opinion about the statement from our PMs wife about IWD.

oh jesus. people can post wherever the fuck they want to. the current state of our world is more at stake with trump than it is with trudeau.

should israelis only post in the israel thread?

Or compelled to?

I think this is what fan is getting at.

the state of our politics in canada aren't nearly as dire as the state of politics in the states. there's not nearly as much to discuss because of that. the US directly impacts canada, not to mention most of the globe.

if trudeau had beaten harper and it was found out that china had POSSIBLY something to do with it, and we had the same war-happy government and size of military the US does, we'd be talking over there just as much.

Don't get me wrong... I get it.

Are you looking at buying McCready's book?

not after I saw the price. I'd love to see it, but for $80US with exchange and shipping.....why?

I'm thinking of doing it. Needed a nudge- someone to tell me, "Duh. Of course I'm getting it!"

sounds like you might regret it if you don't. so do it.

Yeah, I figure if you're really on the fence, it's best to fall on the side of buying (I'm personally not even tempted because of the price. I will never regret not buying it because it just isn't worth the $150+ CAD or whatever it works out to, IMO)

ikiT

I'm going standard version...

josevolution

Ok back on topic folks we can't ever stop magnifying this administration policy...

PJfanwillneverleave1

Halifax2TheMax said:

Six paragraphs in. Holy shit. Unprecedented. Worst president ever.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/opinions/working-for-trump-reputation-risk-dantonio/index.html

Seriously, BS? GF? Unsung? PJF? How do you guys/gals defend this? How do you let it pass? Fake news? Partisan sniping? Just give him a chance? Trump is becoming untenable. He's not long for the office. Slow, slow burn then BOOM!

I choose Partisan sniping. The article stated valid opinions however not one of them affects you or I directly at all on any given day.
To coax a reader into a lull while reading this article thinking that is a balanced opinion piece then it ends with this shit insult to President Trump
And in chimpanzee colonies, which McAdams notes "do not have democratic institutions," the dominance mode comes with guaranteed chaos. "Things always end badly for the alpha chimp," he said, who torments his underlings until the moment he is overthrown


CNN - Completely Neutered Nonsense

ikiT

i prefer Corporate News Network although the OF himself called it the Clinton News Network

josevolution

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Six paragraphs in. Holy shit. Unprecedented. Worst president ever.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/opinions/working-for-trump-reputation-risk-dantonio/index.html

Seriously, BS? GF? Unsung? PJF? How do you guys/gals defend this? How do you let it pass? Fake news? Partisan sniping? Just give him a chance? Trump is becoming untenable. He's not long for the office. Slow, slow burn then BOOM!

I choose Partisan sniping. The article stated valid opinions however not one of them affects you or I directly at all on any given day.
To coax a reader into a lull while reading this article thinking that is a balanced opinion piece then it ends with this shit insult to President Trump
And in chimpanzee colonies, which McAdams notes "do not have democratic institutions," the dominance mode comes with guaranteed chaos. "Things always end badly for the alpha chimp," he said, who torments his underlings until the moment he is overthrown


CNN - Completely Neutered Nonsense

lol the truth is in the pudding your boy is a disaster and will continue to be until his thrown from the bus ..

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

BS44325 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

benjs said:

I just want to throw this out there, and I apologize in advance if I offend.

I agree that if Trump contacted people within Russia to hack the voting machines and change the results, there's a serious issue here. If, however, Trump or his cabinet have been reaching out to Russia to encourage them them to produce propaganda to sway the election by influencing citizens' opinions, is there truly anything wrong with this? Sure, this would be morally hard to swallow, but it wouldn't be illegal per se (nor would it be unprecedented amidst the litany of partially or entirely false news circulated online and on television). In addition, it begs a better question: just how dumb/gullible/manipulatable/unaccountable/mentally lazy are Americans that a flood of unsubstantiated and unverifiable allegations are spread, that sound incredibly farfetched (golden shower orgy with a billionaire and several Russian prostitutes, I'm looking at you), and people run - not walk - to insist that it is either true or false based on what constitutes confirmation bias, without even doing their due diligence on researching the source, or the source's source?

People have, do, and continue to do as much as they can get away with to seize as much power as they can. It's for this reason (and the paradoxical capitalist democracy) that I don't believe Trump will be an anomaly, but rather a new and typical kind of politician, unless America can seriously put a focus on thinking critically and independently. Unfortunately, I don't think it's going to be this administration that encourages this mindset, so it'll have to be a grassroots effort.

Am I crazy for thinking this?

The allegation is not that Russia hacked voting machines. It's that 17 US intelligence agencies are in agreement that Russia hacked the email servers of Trump's opponent, Hillary and Podesta, and gave them to Wikileaks for release. The republican platform was modified to take a more pro-Russian stance July 18-21. Three days later, podesta's emails were released thus influencing the outcome of the election. The question is: who on the Trump csmpaign knew it and when did they know it, was there collusion, and were there any other agreements between the ilks? Why the lies, denials of facts, resignations and recusal if there's nothing there? Trump still won't release his tax returns, why? What is he hiding? If nothing, release them.

Russia hacked Hillary's server? That's news...the official line is that while her private server had minimal security and was likely hacked there is no evidence of that. Her 30000 missing emails werE not released bu Wikileaks. The DNC was hacked and Podesta fell victim to a phishing scam. The FBI wasn't given access to the DNC server though post-hacking. The dems hired their own private company and passed on the report to the agencies. These agencies concluded that Russia did the hacking and are probably correct but the Vault 7 CIA dump shows that there is now technology that can essentially leave the fingerprints of any foreign country. What does this mean? It means that even though the hacks and phishing scam were quite likely perpetrated by Russia no longer can anybody claim this as a certainty. The questions you ask are meaningless. As per Rolling Stone it is overhyped nonsense. The tax returns are the new birth certificate. You are becoming Birther Trump which is my least favourite Trump.

Ummm, sure professor. There's nothing to see. Absolutely clean as a whistle. Just keep making shit up again. Tell me, was it a certainty that Obama tapped trump's tower? Spin baby spin.

I hope the investigation starts digging into the Podesta Group now that the Trump/Russia angle appears to be done.

http://tass.com/economy/934699

Why would Russia hire Tony Podesta to lobby for the removal of sanctions and then hack John? Add this to a shadily approved Uranium deal and we begin approaching "collusion" territory. Where there is smoke there must be fire right? Somebody get Halifax2TheMaxineWaters the raw intelligence!

Tass? Really? What's next? Stalin's Comrade? Or something from Goebbles? That seems more likely seeing its Trump we're talking about. I have to admit I laughed out loud at the Maxine references. I met with her once. She'll be way more of a politico in the corridors of power than you or I will ever be behind our keyboards. Something tells me that she'll have the last laugh. Care to dispute Susan Collins stating we might need to request Trump's tax returns? Distract and deflect.

I guess Russia Today was too reputable.

I guess you guys don't read the links within links.

Like to Comet Pizza? Ewwwww.

Actually the TASS article links to the Daily Caller which confirms it's reporting on Podesta.

This is the same Daily Caller that is linked to in your Vox article on Flynn.

Looks like you have a hard time deciding when the Daily Caller is or is not an acceptable source.

It looks quite possible however that this might be the real reason why Flynn was dumped. If he concealed this then it is a massive no no.

You're jumping to conclusions. I never opined on the Flynn article or the Daily CAller. If I'm not mistaken, isn't that Tucker Carlson's rag? If so... then no thanks.

But.. your attempt to put Halifax or whomever in a box is a little weak. I don't think there's a dispute that either the Hill opinion piece existed or that Flynn filed with State or whichever agency as a foreign agent. Believing or disbelieving this Vox article is not dependent on an opinion of the Daily Caller.

ikiT

jobs!

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-monthly-jobs-numbers-sean-spicer-235936

PJfanwillneverleave1

The weekly address to the Americans seemed allright. 15 sec delay before it starts. Thoughts H2M?
https://www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/1244889762265421/

mrussel1

Tiki said:

jobs!

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-monthly-jobs-numbers-sean-spicer-235936

AMAZING! The same data source is now legitimate, miraculously one month later. Wow. What a magician. Oh.. wait. what a lying sack of shit.

PJfanwillneverleave1

From this article http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/jobs-report-no-longer-phoney-trump-says-now-that-its-his/ar-AAo7jHR?ocid=spartanntp
What a difference from last year's presidential campaign, when Trump repeatedly assailed the report's legitimacy.
Back then, candidate Trump denounced "phoney unemployment numbers" he claimed had been invented to make the Democrats look good.
"Don't believe those phoney numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 per cent unemployment. The number's probably 28, 29, as high as 35," he said last February, on the day of the New Hampshire presidential primary.
"The 5 per cent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in modern politics," he said.
That's last year's 5 per cent, not the new numbers reported on his watch.
Asked about the apparent disconnect, Spicer offered a smile and a quip: "I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phoney in the past, but it's very real now.'"

Who is right about this President Trump or the press?

ledvedderman

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

From this article http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/jobs-report-no-longer-phoney-trump-says-now-that-its-his/ar-AAo7jHR?ocid=spartanntp
What a difference from last year's presidential campaign, when Trump repeatedly assailed the report's legitimacy.
Back then, candidate Trump denounced "phoney unemployment numbers" he claimed had been invented to make the Democrats look good.
"Don't believe those phoney numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 per cent unemployment. The number's probably 28, 29, as high as 35," he said last February, on the day of the New Hampshire presidential primary.
"The 5 per cent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in modern politics," he said.
That's last year's 5 per cent, not the new numbers reported on his watch.
Asked about the apparent disconnect, Spicer offered a smile and a quip: "I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phoney in the past, but it's very real now.'"

Who is right about this President Trump or the press?

What? Obviously it's not the guy saying the nimvers are"phony" when he's running for office and now says that the numbers are fine once he's in office and they come out on his watch. How do you defend that?

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Bill Clinton did it.

ledvedderman

That's a stupid argument. If Clinton did it, it's just as moronic as Trump doing it now.
It's okay to say that your side is being moronic. It doesn't make you a bad person, you know?

PJfanwillneverleave1

ledvedderman said:

That's a stupid argument. If Clinton did it, it's just as moronic as Trump doing it now.
It's okay to say that your side is being moronic. It doesn't make you a bad person, you know?

I'm done doing the research and posting the source again that Bill Clinton publicly said just use math and numbers when speaking to the public.
Are the numbers wrong that both President Trump and the press are stating right now?

ledvedderman

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

ledvedderman said:

That's a stupid argument. If Clinton did it, it's just as moronic as Trump doing it now.
It's okay to say that your side is being moronic. It doesn't make you a bad person, you know?

I'm done doing the research and posting the source again that Bill Clinton publicly said just use math and numbers when speaking to the public.
Are the numbers wrong that both President Trump and the press are stating right now?

No. The numbers aren't wrong. Anyone who believes the numbers are actually 20-35% is a fucking moron.