President Obama signs nationwide legislation banning ticket bots

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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,916
    LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

    Zod said:

    So what's the punishment if busted running a bot?

    Yeah and how will it be enforced. My guess is that it won't and can't

    Not to mention the obvious workaround is to host the bot outside of the united states. Same thing you do to avoid states/provinces that have antiscalping legislation. Sell the tickets out of a different/state province.
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Good job Barry..
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,548
    Most websites are actually very effective at fighting bots. TM for example, actually look at names, cc #s, and addresses to check quantity limits. The problem's actual people buying up tix to sell and it's just very difficult to combat that. Bots are old news. Step towards the right direction, though.. so cheers.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,916
    crookedcross said:

    Most websites are actually very effective at fighting bots. TM for example, actually look at names, cc #s, and addresses to check quantity limits. The problem's actual people buying up tix to sell and it's just very difficult to combat that. Bots are old news. Step towards the right direction, though.. so cheers.

    lol! Did you see that documentary from the uk a few years ago where the brokers had a cd wallet full of different credit cards registered in different names, just for ordering tickets the UK equivelant of TM. I don't think getting access to credit cards with different names/address is a big deal for brokers.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,546
    Talked to a friend today who is peripherally involved in the ticket business.
    He said that without a dedicated agency, or team, to go after the people who use the bots, it will be near impossible to stop them.

    He said it will take stronger efforts from local states attorneys, like the one in NY, going after the individual brokers to put an end to the bots.

    In addition, Ticketmaster has no vested interest in putting an end to the bots even though could very easily. Unless there is legislative and legal pressure to do so.

    Also it seems the public is so well trained to go online and buy aftermarket tickets that there is no reason for the brokers to stop until forced.
    Stubhub is poised to break 3 billion in sales this year.

    Good luck on future sales
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Typical Obama. King of shot that has no impact yet placates the stupid masses. At least this time he didn't hand out money.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    TA243471 said:

    It may not solve all the problems, but it sure can't hurt

    It solves no problems and will cause unintended consequences. You guys do realize we all use softeware to purchase tickets right? Funny folks say trump has no experience which is true, How much did Obama have?
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    EdsonNascimento said:

    Typical Obama. King of shot that has no impact yet placates the stupid masses. At least this time he didn't hand out money.

    I think Bush was the one that handed out money, but you sound pretty grounded in reality so I'm sure you knew that ;)
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,916
    NewJPage said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    Typical Obama. King of shot that has no impact yet placates the stupid masses. At least this time he didn't hand out money.

    I think Bush was the one that handed out money, but you sound pretty grounded in reality so I'm sure you knew that ;)
    The thing was Bush's term just ended as the big economic collapse happened. He got to walk away from it. I think he was president for the first bail out package, and then Obama had just become president when the 2nd one rolled out. People seem to forget Obama inherited the country in the worse economic shape it had been in since the 30s. I'm pretty sure he left the country in better economic shape than in he inherited in. I will counterargue that given how bad it was when he took over that shouldn't of been hard to do :)
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    Zod said:

    NewJPage said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    Typical Obama. King of shot that has no impact yet placates the stupid masses. At least this time he didn't hand out money.

    I think Bush was the one that handed out money, but you sound pretty grounded in reality so I'm sure you knew that ;)
    The thing was Bush's term just ended as the big economic collapse happened. He got to walk away from it. I think he was president for the first bail out package, and then Obama had just become president when the 2nd one rolled out. People seem to forget Obama inherited the country in the worse economic shape it had been in since the 30s. I'm pretty sure he left the country in better economic shape than in he inherited in. I will counterargue that given how bad it was when he took over that shouldn't of been hard to do :)
    Yes, generally agree. He referenced Obama handing out money, which Bush literally did around 2003. I remember getting the check!
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    NewJPage said:

    Zod said:

    NewJPage said:

    EdsonNascimento said:

    Typical Obama. King of shot that has no impact yet placates the stupid masses. At least this time he didn't hand out money.

    I think Bush was the one that handed out money, but you sound pretty grounded in reality so I'm sure you knew that ;)
    The thing was Bush's term just ended as the big economic collapse happened. He got to walk away from it. I think he was president for the first bail out package, and then Obama had just become president when the 2nd one rolled out. People seem to forget Obama inherited the country in the worse economic shape it had been in since the 30s. I'm pretty sure he left the country in better economic shape than in he inherited in. I will counterargue that given how bad it was when he took over that shouldn't of been hard to do :)
    Yes, generally agree. He referenced Obama handing out money, which Bush literally did around 2003. I remember getting the check!
    Not to make this political, but I agree, Bush was pretty good at handing out money too.

    And btw, the economic collapse is directly tied to Clinton and his administration's allowing/forcing banks to give home loans out to anyone with a pulse (and some without). That's why it's laughable his partner was even in the current race. Not that I think those that voted against her had that in mind, but those are the facts.

    But back to the BOT bill - good in theory but does nothing. I do laugh when I see folks who complain about scalpers selling their stuff on Lost Dogs for inflated prices.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.

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