Calexit

unsung
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
California to form own country?


Wait, didn't Texas want to do this? Weren't they called racist?

Never going to happen.

Two reasons:

Medicare
Social Security
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  • ponytd
    ponytd Nashville Posts: 671
    More reasons:
    Electricity and water used for Southern Cal that comes from the Colorado River outside the state. California goes bye-bye, that goes bye-bye
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited November 2016
    yeah once medicare, social security, unemployment, and all other services are cut watch them come crawling back hahaha...they cant even take care of themselves now...you think they are rioting now just wait till all those services have no funding

    Texas was shown that they could actually provide for themselves....ill need to find backing on that
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,898
    unsung said:

    California to form own country?


    Wait, didn't Texas want to do this? Weren't they called racist?

    Never going to happen.

    Two reasons:

    Medicare
    Social Security

    3. would cause a civil war. That's what happened last time states tried to leave.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjalive21 said:

    yeah once medicare, social security, unemployment, and all other services are cut watch them come crawling back hahaha...they cant even take care of themselves now...you think they are rioting now just wait till all those services have no funding

    Texas was shown that they could actually provide for themselves....ill need to find backing on that

    I would be interested to read what you can find regarding the possibility of Texas being able to be self-sufficient. The interdependency of the states (in Canada the provinces) and the federal government is such that that's hard to believe.
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  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    cut off there water from Nevada and burn Hollywood burn, lol
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    I imagine if there was serious effort, the leaders pushing it would be taken in for treason.

    But it just isn't feasible.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mace1229 said:

    unsung said:

    California to form own country?


    Wait, didn't Texas want to do this? Weren't they called racist?

    Never going to happen.

    Two reasons:

    Medicare
    Social Security

    3. would cause a civil war. That's what happened last time states tried to leave.
    Liberals insist that the civil war was fought over slavery.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    mace1229 said:

    unsung said:

    California to form own country?


    Wait, didn't Texas want to do this? Weren't they called racist?

    Never going to happen.

    Two reasons:

    Medicare
    Social Security

    3. would cause a civil war. That's what happened last time states tried to leave.
    Liberals insist that the civil war was fought over slavery.
    And why did the southern states try to leave?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    It was dumb when it was Texas and it's dumb this time too.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    mace1229 said:

    unsung said:

    California to form own country?


    Wait, didn't Texas want to do this? Weren't they called racist?

    Never going to happen.

    Two reasons:

    Medicare
    Social Security

    3. would cause a civil war. That's what happened last time states tried to leave.
    Liberals insist that the civil war was fought over slavery.
    And why did the southern states try to leave?
    Southern way of life and state s rights. It was a war of secession, it was not a war about slavery. Northern soldiers were fighting to preserve the union, not to stop slavery.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Can't help but shake my head and laugh that people are still arguing about the causes of the Civil War, though from the way we're going I suspect people will still be arguing about the reasons Trump won in 150 years.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143

    Can't help but shake my head and laugh that people are still arguing about the causes of the Civil War, though from the way we're going I suspect people will still be arguing about the reasons Trump won in 150 years.

    So in your opinion, what are the causes of the American civil war?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    mace1229 said:

    unsung said:

    California to form own country?


    Wait, didn't Texas want to do this? Weren't they called racist?

    Never going to happen.

    Two reasons:

    Medicare
    Social Security

    3. would cause a civil war. That's what happened last time states tried to leave.
    Liberals insist that the civil war was fought over slavery.
    And why did the southern states try to leave?
    Southern way of life and state s rights. It was a war of secession, it was not a war about slavery. Northern soldiers were fighting to preserve the union, not to stop slavery.
    Hmmm I wonder what was it about that southern way of life that was so threatened they had to leave the union?
    Hmmmm I wonder what state's rights were in jeopardy?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    rgambs said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    mace1229 said:

    unsung said:

    California to form own country?


    Wait, didn't Texas want to do this? Weren't they called racist?

    Never going to happen.

    Two reasons:

    Medicare
    Social Security

    3. would cause a civil war. That's what happened last time states tried to leave.
    Liberals insist that the civil war was fought over slavery.
    And why did the southern states try to leave?
    Southern way of life and state s rights. It was a war of secession, it was not a war about slavery. Northern soldiers were fighting to preserve the union, not to stop slavery.
    Hmmm I wonder what was it about that southern way of life that was so threatened they had to leave the union?
    Hmmmm I wonder what state's rights were in jeopardy?
    The south seceded for it s way of life and states right. At that point the north could have cared less but instead fought to restore the union. The north didn't give a rats ass about fighting for slavery, it was all about restoring the union.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    "Way of life" and "state's rights" are just euphemisms for slavery.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    rgambs said:

    "Way of life" and "state's rights" are just euphemisms for slavery.

    But you re missing the point, no one in the north was fighting to end slavery. It was a war of secession.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    rgambs said:

    "Way of life" and "state's rights" are just euphemisms for slavery.

    And slavery was the straw that broke the camel's back because the southern states believed in states rights. In their eyes, what was next?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Yes, it was a war of succession...succession over slavery.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    edited November 2016
    rgambs said:

    Yes, it was a war of succession...succession over slavery.

    Secession, Not succession. And again, it was not about slavery in the north. It was about bringing the country back together.
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Yes, it was a war for preserving the union. Peserving the union that was being torn apart by slavery.
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