Hillary and Obama stepping aside.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/09/clinton-urges-supporters-to-accept-trump-victory-give-him-chance-to-lead.html

Hillary Clinton, in her first public remarks since her stunning defeat overnight to President-elect Donald Trump, urged her millions of supporters to “accept this result” and give her Republican rival a “chance to lead” as she voiced hope the country could move past the divisions of the grueling 2016 campaign.

“This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for, and I’m sorry we did not win this election … but I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together,” Clinton told supporters Wednesday in New York City.

She said “this loss hurts,” but said her campaign “was never about one person or even one election.”

they have a better attitude than a few on here.....but I don't believe either one of them (Obama and Hillary) they're both snakes.

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/09/clinton-urges-supporters-to-accept-trump-victory-give-him-chance-to-lead.html

    Hillary Clinton, in her first public remarks since her stunning defeat overnight to President-elect Donald Trump, urged her millions of supporters to “accept this result” and give her Republican rival a “chance to lead” as she voiced hope the country could move past the divisions of the grueling 2016 campaign.

    “This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for, and I’m sorry we did not win this election … but I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together,” Clinton told supporters Wednesday in New York City.

    She said “this loss hurts,” but said her campaign “was never about one person or even one election.”

    they have a better attitude than a few on here.....but I don't believe either one of them (Obama and Hillary) they're both snakes.

    Godfather.

    Haha, I'm amazed that anyone can call them snakes, but leave Trump out of that comparison. I don't trust everything they say or do either, but they at least know how to step aside with dignity.

    Pride is the worst sin.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The Democrats will now control next to nothing above the municipal level. Donald Trump will be president. We are going to be unpacking this night for the rest of our lives, and lives beyond that. We can’t comprehend even 1 percent of what’s just happened. But one aspect of it, minor in the overall sweep, that I’m pretty sure we can comprehend well enough right now: The Democratic Party establishment has beclowned itself and is finished.

    I think of the lawmakers, the consultants, the operatives, and—yes—the center-left media, and how everything said over the past few years leading up to this night was bullshit.

    The midterm losses? That was just a bad cycle, structurally speaking; presidential demographics would make up for it. The party establishment made a grievous mistake rallying around Hillary Clinton. It wasn’t just a lack of recent political seasoning. She was a bad candidate, with no message beyond heckling the opposite sideline. She was a total misfit for both the politics of 2016 and the energy of the Democratic Party as currently constituted. She could not escape her baggage, and she must own that failure herself.

    Theoretically smart people in the Democratic Party should have known that. And yet they worked giddily to clear the field for her. Every power-hungry young Democrat fresh out of law school, every rising lawmaker, every old friend of the Clintons wanted a piece of the action. This was their ride up the power chain. The whole edifice was hollow, built atop the same unearned sense of inevitability that surrounded Clinton in 2008, and it collapsed, just as it collapsed in 2008, only a little later in the calendar. The voters of the party got taken for a ride by the people who controlled it, the ones who promised they had everything figured out and sneeringly dismissed anyone who suggested otherwise. They promised that Hillary Clinton had a lock on the Electoral College. These people didn’t know what they were talking about, and too many of us in the media thought they did.

    We should blame all those people around the Clintons more than the Clintons themselves, and the Clintons themselves deserve a ridiculous amount of blame. Hillary Clinton was just an ambitious person who wanted to be president. There are a lot of people like that. But she was enabled. The Democratic establishment is a club unwelcoming to outsiders, because outsiders don’t first look out for the club. The Clintons will be gone now. For the sake of the country, let them take the hangers-on with them.

    The ace ground game, the brilliant ad-makers, the top Hollywood talent, and the best analytics operation ever assembled? This was all a joke. The best analytics team in the world, apparently, couldn’t find in their numbers that it was worth making a single stop to Wisconsin following the convention in a campaign against a Republican whose base appeal was in the Rust Belt. Not that an extra visit would have changed the result.

    Think of how wrong the entire national media conversation was—and yes, I contributed my fair share—about how the Republicans were being torn apart as a party. I prewrote a piece Tuesday afternoon, to be published in the event of the expected Clinton win, pushing back against both myself and other members of the media, arguing that Democrats and Republicans were both in existential trouble and that, in the short-term context of a decaying political system, Republicans might even have the edge: Democrats could win the presidency most of the time but never a majority of state governments or the House; while Republicans could always win the majority of state governments and the House, and occasionally—probably in 2020, I thought—the White House. This was wrong. Republicans don’t have a slight edge over Democrats in a decaying political system. Republicans are ascendant. Trump has given them a mission. The country is now theirs.

    Whoever takes over what’s left of the Democratic Party is going to have to find a way to appeal to a broader cross section of the country. It may still be true that in the long term, Republicans can’t win with their demographics, but we found out Tuesday that the long term is still pretty far away. Democrats have to win more white voters. They have to do so in a way that doesn’t erode the anti-racist or anti-sexist planks of the modern party, which are non-negotiable. If only there were a model for this.

    The few Democratic leaders who remain are going to say that it was just a bad note struck here or there, or the lazy Bernie voters who didn’t show up, or Jim Comey, or unfair media coverage of Clinton’s emails, to blame for this loss. I am already seeing Democrats blaming the Electoral College, which until a few hours ago was hailed as the great protector of Democratic virtue for decades to come, and Republicans were silly for not understanding how to crack the blue “wall.” They will say, just wait for Republicans to overreach. Then we’ll be fine.

    Don’t listen to any of this. Everything is not OK. This is not OK.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_democratic_party_establishment_is_finished_after_trump.html
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I shall miss the Obamas greatly, but I knew that before this election.
  • pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    Co-sign
  • Free said:

    pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I shall miss the Obamas greatly, but I knew that before this election.
    Indeed.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    Free said:

    pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I shall miss the Obamas greatly, but I knew that before this election.
    Agreed on all points.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    tbergs said:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/09/clinton-urges-supporters-to-accept-trump-victory-give-him-chance-to-lead.html

    Hillary Clinton, in her first public remarks since her stunning defeat overnight to President-elect Donald Trump, urged her millions of supporters to “accept this result” and give her Republican rival a “chance to lead” as she voiced hope the country could move past the divisions of the grueling 2016 campaign.

    “This is not the outcome we wanted or we worked so hard for, and I’m sorry we did not win this election … but I feel pride and gratitude for this wonderful campaign that we built together,” Clinton told supporters Wednesday in New York City.

    She said “this loss hurts,” but said her campaign “was never about one person or even one election.”

    they have a better attitude than a few on here.....but I don't believe either one of them (Obama and Hillary) they're both snakes.

    Godfather.

    Haha, I'm amazed that anyone can call them snakes, but leave Trump out of that comparison. I don't trust everything they say or do either, but they at least know how to step aside with dignity.

    Pride is the worst sin.
    I just don't trust either one of them.

    Godfather.

  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
    Free said:

    pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I shall miss the Obamas greatly, but I knew that before this election.
    Same here. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Michelle ran for office.
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  • mfc2006 said:

    Free said:

    pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I shall miss the Obamas greatly, but I knew that before this election.
    Same here. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Michelle ran for office.
    Not sure why she'd want to, what with all the hatred spewed at her for just being the first lady.
    I'm through with screaming
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I have to admit I found this very to be very cool and a statement with class.

    Obama also called for unity:

    "Everybody is sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmages sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmage."

    "We are Americans first, patriots first," he said.


  • pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I have to admit I found this very to be very cool and a statement with class.

    Obama also called for unity:

    "Everybody is sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmages sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmage."

    "We are Americans first, patriots first," he said.


    yes everybody is sad but not everybody encourages a country to rally against the new president elect, very shameful if you ask me.

  • pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I have to admit I found this very to be very cool and a statement with class.

    Obama also called for unity:

    "Everybody is sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmages sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmage."

    "We are Americans first, patriots first," he said.


    yes everybody is sad but not everybody encourages a country to rally against the new president elect, very shameful if you ask me.

    Who is doing that? That is the exact opposite of what Obama has suggested.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    pjhawks said:

    no one has show more class and dignity in the past 2 days than Obama.

    I have to admit I found this very to be very cool and a statement with class.

    Obama also called for unity:

    "Everybody is sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmages sad when their side loses. But we have to remember we’re all on one team, it's an inter mural scrimmage."

    "We are Americans first, patriots first," he said.


    yes everybody is sad but not everybody encourages a country to rally against the new president elect, very shameful if you ask me.

    Who is doing that? That is the exact opposite of what Obama has suggested.
    Stop with facts... they don't matter...
  • are all the comments and reply's on this board fact driven ?
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  • are all the comments and reply's on this board fact driven ?

    You did it in the conservatory to Mr. Plum with a pipe wrench, didn't you?

    To answer your question, of course!!!
    thank you.

  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145

    are all the comments and reply's on this board fact driven ?

    It's fine to have an opinion-driven conversation, but as soon as one person brings facts into the picture, it's inevitable that the other person's opinion is going to appear weaker until substantiated.
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  • benjs said:

    are all the comments and reply's on this board fact driven ?

    It's fine to have an opinion-driven conversation, but as soon as one person brings facts into the picture, it's inevitable that the other person's opinion is going to appear weaker until substantiated.
    very true, thank you for bringing that to my attention.

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