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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    Free said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    what are you all scared of?

    Mike Pence. Trump being entirely unprepared. Trump having no policy. Paul Ryan's power. Social progress being rolled back. Reproductive rights being infringed. The climate. Coal. Economic uncertainty. War.
    It's why Trump never really seemed all that interested in being a real leader of the US.
    Yeah, and now he is...
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    mace1229 said:

    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.

    You are tired of the office being a joke and you voted for Trump? That's hilarious on so many levels.
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  • "Let's hope he surprises us!"

    Hahahahhaha
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    mace1229 said:

    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.

    I agree that there's been too much immediate condemnation of voters prior to understanding rationale. Not all Trump voters are sexist, racist, homophobic: it just happens to be that the sexist, racist, homophobic people have safe refuge within the Trump umbrella by his ambiguously designed words that could easily describe white, male supremacy.

    I also agree that Clinton was a terrible candidate - I just really thought that his attitude on critical progressive topics were too regressive, and thus hoped that people would agree about a lesser of two evils. It's a bummer being wrong on such a huge topic, but I truly hope that Trump can surprise us all for the better - being a unifier in progressive directions, rather than a divider in fear-driven directions.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Clinton suffered her biggest losses in the places where Obama was strongest among white voters. It's not a simple racism story.
    Nate Cohn NYT
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    benjs said:

    mace1229 said:

    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.

    I agree that there's been too much immediate condemnation of voters prior to understanding rationale. Not all Trump voters are sexist, racist, homophobic: it just happens to be that the sexist, racist, homophobic people have safe refuge within the Trump umbrella by his ambiguously designed words that could easily describe white, male supremacy.

    I also agree that Clinton was a terrible candidate - I just really thought that his attitude on critical progressive topics were too regressive, and thus hoped that people would agree about a lesser of two evils. It's a bummer being wrong on such a huge topic, but I truly hope that Trump can surprise us all for the better - being a unifier in progressive directions, rather than a divider in fear-driven directions.
    There needs to be a bit of a soul searching on how bad of a candidate she was. She was for the most part annointed and really didn't have anything to offer. I am no fan of Bernie but he probably would have performed better...at a minimum he could have offered some degree of "change" and he would have had zero ethical issues to defend. Her praise of TPP as the "gold standard" killed her in those rust belt areas. People should have recognized this when she lost Michigan to Bernie in the primaries.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    mcgruff10 said:

    what are you all scared of?

    spiders, for sure
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    BS44325 said:

    benjs said:

    mace1229 said:

    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.

    I agree that there's been too much immediate condemnation of voters prior to understanding rationale. Not all Trump voters are sexist, racist, homophobic: it just happens to be that the sexist, racist, homophobic people have safe refuge within the Trump umbrella by his ambiguously designed words that could easily describe white, male supremacy.

    I also agree that Clinton was a terrible candidate - I just really thought that his attitude on critical progressive topics were too regressive, and thus hoped that people would agree about a lesser of two evils. It's a bummer being wrong on such a huge topic, but I truly hope that Trump can surprise us all for the better - being a unifier in progressive directions, rather than a divider in fear-driven directions.
    There needs to be a bit of a soul searching on how bad of a candidate she was. She was for the most part annointed and really didn't have anything to offer. I am no fan of Bernie but he probably would have performed better...at a minimum he could have offered some degree of "change" and he would have had zero ethical issues to defend. Her praise of TPP as the "gold standard" killed her in those rust belt areas. People should have recognized this when she lost Michigan to Bernie in the primaries.
    Hard to say. The GOP would have attacked him as a "socialist" and it would have stuck with the morons that elected Trump.
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    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    there u are! lmao
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    BS44325 said:

    benjs said:

    mace1229 said:

    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.

    I agree that there's been too much immediate condemnation of voters prior to understanding rationale. Not all Trump voters are sexist, racist, homophobic: it just happens to be that the sexist, racist, homophobic people have safe refuge within the Trump umbrella by his ambiguously designed words that could easily describe white, male supremacy.

    I also agree that Clinton was a terrible candidate - I just really thought that his attitude on critical progressive topics were too regressive, and thus hoped that people would agree about a lesser of two evils. It's a bummer being wrong on such a huge topic, but I truly hope that Trump can surprise us all for the better - being a unifier in progressive directions, rather than a divider in fear-driven directions.
    There needs to be a bit of a soul searching on how bad of a candidate she was. She was for the most part annointed and really didn't have anything to offer. I am no fan of Bernie but he probably would have performed better...at a minimum he could have offered some degree of "change" and he would have had zero ethical issues to defend. Her praise of TPP as the "gold standard" killed her in those rust belt areas. People should have recognized this when she lost Michigan to Bernie in the primaries.
    I agree with you on this entirely. The DNC put their super delegate eggs in the wrong basket unfortunately, as did the Democratic primary voters.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824

    mace1229 said:

    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.

    You are tired of the office being a joke and you voted for Trump? That's hilarious on so many levels.
    Absolutely. I went with the one who I thought would make a lesser joke out of it. The one who didn't steal furniture from the white house last time they lived there and required a court order to give it back. Trump was the lesser joke.
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209

    another day in Paradise here in America. you canadians have to stop living in fear. The Don will probably let you keep your country.


    Its not fear. Its embarrassment fr you. And pride in ourselves knowing this woukd never happen in our country.
    keep telling yourself that. the only scared people ive encountered today are the canadians on this forum.

    just stay on that hind tit and know your role.
    I'm not scared. I'm amused.

    And make sure you know your role- stay fat. Oh... and stupid too. F**king retard.
    keep it classy too, eh???
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    benjs said:

    mace1229 said:

    I woke up yesterday morning fully expecting (like most) that HRC would have an early victory speech. I had conversations throughout the day about the election. And even though I had planned to vote Trump my conversations were the same.
    I am tired of the presidential office being a joke. For the last 20 years (maybe longer, but 20 years ago is when I was old enough to care) the office has been a joke. Making fun of the way the president looks, talks, his accent, late night shows making fun of the president's physical appearance all has become common. Even if I don't respect who is elected I want to respect the office.
    Anticipating a win for Clinton I shared that the many reasons for not voting for her wont matter once she becomes my president. That I hope she becomes the greatest president of my generation because that is what this country needs. If and until she does something while president that deems her unworthy to be my president, she will have my respect and support.
    early in the evening I was surprised when he had a slight lead, then he took some big states. When he took Ohio I thought he might actually have this. I don't have "voter's remorse," I think he was the better choice when considering all the flaws of both candidates.
    But I really hate the outrage. He has barely been elected just a few hours and he's already labeled the worst president in history-he's not even president yet. I hate if you don't agree with someone on immigration laws, marriage laws, bathroom laws, abortion laws you are automatically labeled as a hater instead of asking why they have those views. And now if I don't vote for your candidate I am a hater as well. I hate how those who voted for him are labeled as sexist, racist, homophobic, and just about everything else.
    It's not always about hate. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I think he was the better choice. If you want to know specifics read the thousands of posts in the previous weeks, no need to kick a candidate when she's down, and half of the country agrees that he will make a better president.
    Lets hope he surprises us all and America is better 4 years from now.

    I agree that there's been too much immediate condemnation of voters prior to understanding rationale. Not all Trump voters are sexist, racist, homophobic: it just happens to be that the sexist, racist, homophobic people have safe refuge within the Trump umbrella by his ambiguously designed words that could easily describe white, male supremacy.

    I also agree that Clinton was a terrible candidate - I just really thought that his attitude on critical progressive topics were too regressive, and thus hoped that people would agree about a lesser of two evils. It's a bummer being wrong on such a huge topic, but I truly hope that Trump can surprise us all for the better - being a unifier in progressive directions, rather than a divider in fear-driven directions.
    There needs to be a bit of a soul searching on how bad of a candidate she was. She was for the most part annointed and really didn't have anything to offer. I am no fan of Bernie but he probably would have performed better...at a minimum he could have offered some degree of "change" and he would have had zero ethical issues to defend. Her praise of TPP as the "gold standard" killed her in those rust belt areas. People should have recognized this when she lost Michigan to Bernie in the primaries.
    Hard to say. The GOP would have attacked him as a "socialist" and it would have stuck with the morons that elected Trump.
    Maybe but a lot of the "morons" in the rust belt were democrats. She underperformed in white areas that Obama did well in. These were the voters Michael Moore warned everyone about.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    dignin said:

    image

    :lol:

    My friend who is pro-trump was complaining about the electoral college being the biggest scam BIG TIME last night and how it should be popular vote elected ... ironic, don't ya think?
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,022
    dignin said:

    image

    Can you just imagine if the roles were reversed and Trump won popular but lost EV?
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209

    another day in Paradise here in America. you canadians have to stop living in fear. The Don will probably let you keep your country.


    Its not fear. Its embarrassment fr you. And pride in ourselves knowing this woukd never happen in our country.
    keep telling yourself that. the only scared people ive encountered today are the canadians on this forum.

    just stay on that hind tit and know your role.
    I'm not scared. I'm amused.

    And make sure you know your role- stay fat. Oh... and stupid too. F**king retard.
    i wish i could tell you how i really feel, but im out of suspensions. i love it though, angry canadians all over the place. just remember, theres plenty of milk from the hind teet.
  • another day in Paradise here in America. you canadians have to stop living in fear. The Don will probably let you keep your country.


    Its not fear. Its embarrassment fr you. And pride in ourselves knowing this woukd never happen in our country.
    keep telling yourself that. the only scared people ive encountered today are the canadians on this forum.

    just stay on that hind tit and know your role.
    I'm not scared. I'm amused.

    And make sure you know your role- stay fat. Oh... and stupid too. F**king retard.
    i wish i could tell you how i really feel, but im out of suspensions. i love it though, angry canadians all over the place. just remember, theres plenty of milk from the hind teet.
    lol

    I thought you were a big, tuff American?

    Don't hold back... unless you're in a dead heat to get to the Golden Corral! In that case... I can wait till you finish your corn dogs and nachos.

    "My brain's a good brain!"