TOTD TIMES OF TROUBLE = FOOTSTEPS

EL69937

Probably not mentioning anything new, but I didn't realize the melody is exactly the same. Anyone know the story behind this?

EL69937

http://youtu.be/2Z2Oxe-ckmE

2-feign-reluctance

Stone wrote it and used it for Temple & later Pearl Jam.

shetellsherself

While the music is the same footsteps is by far the better song

RS151862

I always thought it was interesting to see what two different song writers did with what was initially the same piece of music.

pjsteelerfan

shetellsherself said:

While the music is the same footsteps is by far the better song

I disagree, but to each their own.

Suziemay

I used to think Footsteps was way superior to Times of Trouble, but it's really grown on me. Love them both.

Wasn't the story about this in the PJ20 book? I could have sworn I read about it in there. Or somewhere.

Merkin Baller

I really like the Piano in Times of Trouble.

That alone has been drawing me back to it.

KC138045

shetellsherself said:

While the music is the same footsteps is by far the better song

Agreed

Suziemay

Merkin Baller said:

I really like the Piano in Times of Trouble.

That alone has been drawing me back to it.

YES! After I posted, I went on youtube to look for it. Great minds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Nwf1d6Dnc

DJ253147

My wife pointed this out some years back. Both great but Footsteps is a fixture in my PJ top ten list. I just about lost my mind in Pemberton when Footsteps followed the Release opener.

HughFreakingDillon

Footsteps is my favourite of the two, even though hearing TOT first by a long time. I damn near cried when they played it in St Paul two years ago. Who am I kidding. I did cry.

darthvedder

There was some show in 1992 (Europe, I think) where Eddie starts singing Times of Trouble instead of Footsteps. It's pretty funny.

steved

darthvedder said:

There was some show in 1992 (Europe, I think) where Eddie starts singing Times of Trouble instead of Footsteps. It's pretty funny.

I am not aware of this... please more info....

mrluthor9

I loved Times of Trouble way before I ever heard Footsteps. The first time I heard the opening chords of Footsteps live I was like ..."oh snap...they are going to cover Temple".

mcgruff10

darthvedder said:

There was some show in 1992 (Europe, I think) where Eddie starts singing Times of Trouble instead of Footsteps. It's pretty funny.

I ve never heard of this. Find it when you can.

HawkeyeJam

DJ253147 said:

My wife pointed this out some years back. Both great but Footsteps is a fixture in my PJ top ten list. I just about lost my mind in Pemberton when Footsteps followed the Release opener.

Oceans opener into Footsteps followed by Off He Goes to open Wrigley 2 would have dropped u then lol


Oh.. and then proceed to run a string of just rockers

darthvedder

mcgruff10 said:

darthvedder said:

There was some show in 1992 (Europe, I think) where Eddie starts singing Times of Trouble instead of Footsteps. It's pretty funny.

I ve never heard of this. Find it when you can.

Found it! Thanks to Two Feet Thick:
http://www.twofeetthick.com/concert-chronology/pj1992/

06/25/92 – Moderna Museet, Skeppsholmen: Stockholm, Sweden [110m]
attendance: 1,500
set: Driven to Tears, Throw Your Arms Around Me, Even Flow, Once, State of Love and Trust, Alive, Improv, Black, (Help Me Rhonda)/Deep, Jeremy, Why Go, Improv (The First Time), Porch
enc 1: Suggestion/Garden
enc 2: Leash, I’ve Got a Feeling/(Dolly Dagger)/(Three Little Birds)/Rockin’ in the Free World
enc 3: Release, Footsteps
notes: This show, originally scheduled for the Melody Club, was moved to this outdoor venue due to the current popularity of Ten. With no opening act, Ed and Mike took the stage to open with two acoustic songs. Ed is very chatty with the audience, beginning by saying, “Today it just feels good … a fast one or a slow one?” and playing the Police cover, ‘Driven to Tears.’ Then, ” … it’s a song about summer and outdoors” and playing the Hunters and Collectors tune, ‘Throw Your Arms Around Me.’ After the other PJ members take the stage, “Let’s just have fun tonight.” intro’s a ripping ‘Even Flow.’ Ed spies someone taping in the audience and remarks, “This guy’s making a tape recording … everybody be careful … don’t make too much noise. No keep it out. I like that idea. He’s OK. Let him tape the show, yeah … we wanna remember this, right?” A lot of stuff is being thrown on stage during this show. After ‘Once,’ Ed, being hit by a shoe, becomes angry, and holds the shoe up, and smiles, fills it with his beverage and drinks from it. Wiping the drops away from his mouth, he says, “I’m crazier than any of you fucks” (turning a stupid incident into something good). Then he says, “This song is called … what’s it called?” and he passes the mic out to the audience and some guy repeats, “I’m crazier than you” several times, and then “State of love and trust” which PJ plays next! Ed sings “Help me Rhonda. I’m in too deep,” as a lead-in to ‘Deep.’ PJ is upset that this show was for 18+ ages only and later Ed comments, “You know of this thing, Roskilde? We’re playing tomorrow. After this, I feel like saying ‘fuck it, let’s just play here again.’ This is the size! It’s outdoors … this is as big as it needs to get … next time it will be at this place, it will be all ages and it will be cheaper than it was today. This was bullshit and I don’t dare say that unless I plan to live up to it so we will live up to it. We’ll see you there then, OK?” ‘Release’ is played because they forgot to play it earlier and ‘Footsteps’ is started with the Temple of the Dog version (‘Times of Trouble’) lyrics and then Ed explains the origin of the song and they restart it. So sad that this very happy night was marred by some of the band’s personal items being stolen backstage as they played.

steved

darthvedder said:

mcgruff10 said:

darthvedder said:

There was some show in 1992 (Europe, I think) where Eddie starts singing Times of Trouble instead of Footsteps. It's pretty funny.

I ve never heard of this. Find it when you can.

Found it! Thanks to Two Feet Thick:
http://www.twofeetthick.com/concert-chronology/pj1992/

06/25/92 – Moderna Museet, Skeppsholmen: Stockholm, Sweden [110m]
attendance: 1,500
set: Driven to Tears, Throw Your Arms Around Me, Even Flow, Once, State of Love and Trust, Alive, Improv, Black, (Help Me Rhonda)/Deep, Jeremy, Why Go, Improv (The First Time), Porch
enc 1: Suggestion/Garden
enc 2: Leash, I’ve Got a Feeling/(Dolly Dagger)/(Three Little Birds)/Rockin’ in the Free World
enc 3: Release, Footsteps
notes: This show, originally scheduled for the Melody Club, was moved to this outdoor venue due to the current popularity of Ten. With no opening act, Ed and Mike took the stage to open with two acoustic songs. Ed is very chatty with the audience, beginning by saying, “Today it just feels good … a fast one or a slow one?” and playing the Police cover, ‘Driven to Tears.’ Then, ” … it’s a song about summer and outdoors” and playing the Hunters and Collectors tune, ‘Throw Your Arms Around Me.’ After the other PJ members take the stage, “Let’s just have fun tonight.” intro’s a ripping ‘Even Flow.’ Ed spies someone taping in the audience and remarks, “This guy’s making a tape recording … everybody be careful … don’t make too much noise. No keep it out. I like that idea. He’s OK. Let him tape the show, yeah … we wanna remember this, right?” A lot of stuff is being thrown on stage during this show. After ‘Once,’ Ed, being hit by a shoe, becomes angry, and holds the shoe up, and smiles, fills it with his beverage and drinks from it. Wiping the drops away from his mouth, he says, “I’m crazier than any of you fucks” (turning a stupid incident into something good). Then he says, “This song is called … what’s it called?” and he passes the mic out to the audience and some guy repeats, “I’m crazier than you” several times, and then “State of love and trust” which PJ plays next! Ed sings “Help me Rhonda. I’m in too deep,” as a lead-in to ‘Deep.’ PJ is upset that this show was for 18+ ages only and later Ed comments, “You know of this thing, Roskilde? We’re playing tomorrow. After this, I feel like saying ‘fuck it, let’s just play here again.’ This is the size! It’s outdoors … this is as big as it needs to get … next time it will be at this place, it will be all ages and it will be cheaper than it was today. This was bullshit and I don’t dare say that unless I plan to live up to it so we will live up to it. We’ll see you there then, OK?” ‘Release’ is played because they forgot to play it earlier and ‘Footsteps’ is started with the Temple of the Dog version (‘Times of Trouble’) lyrics and then Ed explains the origin of the song and they restart it. So sad that this very happy night was marred by some of the band’s personal items being stolen backstage as they played.

Awesome! Thanks.. Downloading now...

mcgruff10

great find bud! I don't think I ever heard that show; I'm gonna have to give it a listen to.

TJ25487

Times of Trouble is an excellent song, right up there with Footsteps IMO. When has there ever been 2 great songs created from one set of music?????