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HBO's WESTWORLD(Spoilers)

Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
edited November 2016 in All Encompassing Trip
Early reviews have been generally favorable on this. Looks interesting enough to give it a try.
And so you see, I have come to doubt
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    yep..i wait for tis one..
    shameless season premiere to tonight
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    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,767
    Is this any relation to the movie "West World" (which I always thought was Yul Brynner's finest work)?
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    brianlux said:

    Is this any relation to the movie "West World" (which I always thought was Yul Brynner's finest work)?

    Per IMdb:
    A series inspired by the 1973 film of the same title written by Michael Crichton about a futuristic theme park populated by artificial beings.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    This has a lot of potential. Thought it was a very strong opening.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • Attaway77Attaway77 Posts: 3,414
    edited October 2016
    I liked it...You notice the music through out on the piano? I caught "Black Hole Sun" and a Rolling Stones song, I forget now which one.. pretty cool..
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Attaway77 said:

    I liked it...You notice the music through out on the piano? I caught "Black Hole Sun" and a Rolling Stones song, I forget now which one.. pretty cool..

    Yes, "Paint it Black" I guess it was a theme for the Man in Black?
    So many questions about him. Probably need to watch this episode again. Great start.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Attaway77 said:

    I liked it...You notice the music through out on the piano? I caught "Black Hole Sun" and a Rolling Stones song, I forget now which one.. pretty cool..

    Paint it Black
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    show is really good..and so many things to wonder..cant wait for next week
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,641
    Dr. Delight said:

    Attaway77 said:

    I liked it...You notice the music through out on the piano? I caught "Black Hole Sun" and a Rolling Stones song, I forget now which one.. pretty cool..

    Yes, "Paint it Black" I guess it was a theme for the Man in Black?
    So many questions about him. Probably need to watch this episode again. Great start.
    It was a pretty good start, I'm intrigued to see how it plays out. My favourite part was spotting Black Hole Sun and Paint It Black! I never knew how much I wanted a Western saloon version of BHS until now!
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Episode 2: Nice to get a look at how people prepare/enter the park.
    "No Surprises" by Radiohead on the saloon piano.
    The hosts are becoming completely awake and seem to have memories tied to the Man in Black. He has been around for 30 years. Is he part of the program and not a real person?
    Will be interesting to see the Maze that Ed Harris' character is on the lookout for.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    explained alot episode 2..i like the whole idea
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    This show's got me interested, but there's A LOT going on between these two episodes - hopefully all these lines become one circle at some point, otherwise they're going to exhaust me. I like the concept a lot, though, so we'll see. My thought is, ultimately, this show will turn back on the viewer and bring up conversation of creation, gods, consciousness; all that good stuff..
  • AnnafalkAnnafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    I like that's It's a very talented casting with Anthony Hopkins among others.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    Annafalk said:

    I like that's It's a very talented casting with Anthony Hopkins among others.

    Absolutely - huge fan of Jeffrey Wright.
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 10,058
    Gonna watch on demand this week both episodes. Cast looks good

    Need something to watch
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Really starting to enjoy this series.
    Didnt notice it but was the co-creator in the picture the Man in Black? Ford said he "died" inside the park years ago.
    We now have the stray host wandering off, carving the Orion constellation into the wood objects. Then he attacked the security team before destroying himself.
    Cool to see the changes to Dolores. She is becoming more self aware each episode. She fought back at the end and killed the host in her story line.
    Bernard seems to care for her like the son that he lost. On the other end of the spectrum, Ford has a complete opposite view of the robots.
    And what the heck were those things that attacked Teddy's group in the Wyatt story line? Looked like savages but sounded like dinosaurs. They didnt die when shot. Maybe they are with the Man in Black.
    A lot going on.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    So....Bernard's a robot right?
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    Jearlpam0925 said:

    So....Bernard's a robot right?

    Who the hell knows? But this show has me hooked.
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    edited October 2016
    This weeks Saloon piano song was "A Forest" by The Cure

    The acting has been fabulous.
    So the Man in Black is a guest,having been revealed as running some foundation in real life. Both he and now Dolores are now in search of the Maze. It seems to be the heart of Westworld and maybe a way out for Dolores/the other hosts?
    Seems Ford(Hopkins) is pretty sinister and I'm curious about the extension to the park that he is building. That black church steeple from last week seems to be tied into Dolores' origin somehow, whether it real or just scripted memory.
    Maeve is further remembering things and keeping records of them, the workers in the masks and then at the end, she remembers being shot in previous loops, and cuts out the bullet slug from her stomach.
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    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    edited October 2016
    mfc2006 said:

    Jearlpam0925 said:

    So....Bernard's a robot right?

    Who the hell knows? But this show has me hooked.
    Yup, now more convinced Bernard's a robot.

    And the theory about Ed Harris being the guy in the white hat I can still possibly being true.

    And that security guy might be a robot. THEY'RE ALL ROBOTS.
    Dr. Delight said:

    This weeks Saloon piano song was "A Forest" by The Cure

    The acting has been fabulous.
    So the Man in Black is a guest,having been revealed as running some foundation in real life. Both he and now Dolores are now in search of the Maze. It seems to be the heart of Westworld and maybe a way out for Dolores/the other hosts?
    Seems Ford(Hopkins) is pretty sinister and I'm curious about the extension to the park that he is building. That black church steeple from last week seems to be tied into Dolores' origin somehow, whether it real or just scripted memory.
    Maeve is further remembering things and keeping records of them, the workers in the masks and then at the end, she remembers being shot in previous loops, and cuts out the bullet slug from her stomach.

    To me - the whole thing is about the narrative being the introduction of faith and God, existentialism, to the robots. And add that to the fact that the robots are becoming progressively more sentient (I'm thinking because Arnold's not dead or somehow programmed into all their code this ability) that all the robots are going to rebel and kill their "god", who is Ford.
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Man, this show just loves throwing new questions at the viewer. So much going on with so many unknowns and possibilities.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Episode 6:
    Radioheads Fake Plastic Trees played on the Saloon piano.
    How cool is Maeve's storyline? She got a super upgrade.
    Lots of stuff going on, especially the corporate information sabotage that "Arnold" and Theresa seem to be part of. Controlling the older modeled hosts through satellite voice communications.
    And Ford hiding his family "ghosts" in Sector 17.
    Lots of speculation/theories going on for this show...fun to see how it all unfolds.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • bflynn1bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    I'm really enjoying this show.
  • YardenYarden Posts: 820
    bflynn1 said:

    I'm really enjoying this show.

    +1
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,641
    Yarden said:

    bflynn1 said:

    I'm really enjoying this show.

    +1
    +2 :) Soooo many questions!
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,288
    This is what I think - Bernard is definitely a robot, the Jimmi/Ed Harris in a black hat are separate timeliness, and thereshe definitely Teo major themes at play: Arnold, whether he's dead or not, is about showing sentience can happen beyond any humans/robots/etc (2) Anthony Hopkins wants to control everything.
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Damn, so yes, Bernard is a host. The question now is, is Bernard really Arnold?
    This show keeps getting better and better. Best episode of the season right here.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    Dr. Delight said:

    Damn, so yes, Bernard is a host. The question now is, is Bernard really Arnold?
    This show keeps getting better and better. Best episode of the season right here.

    I'm guessing he is based on the real Arnold, Ford created him since he missed his old friend.

    The crazy thing is the company looks like they really underestimated him. There could be a lot of people he "replaced" and no none knows.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    And was Ford creating a "host" version of Theresa on the table in the room where Bernard murdered her? He'll need to account for her disappearance.
    So damn good.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    edited November 2016
    Dr. Delight said:

    And was Ford creating a "host" version of Theresa on the table in the room where Bernard murdered her? He'll need to account for her disappearance.
    So damn good.

    That is what I thought. I thought the preview showed them all looking at a body though. But it may have been the woman who discovered Theresa was trying to steal secrets and disappeared last week.

    And I want to know how much the Man in Black knows, since him and Ford obviously have a past. And are the other robots "waking up" outside of Ford's plans?

    So many directions it can go. Glad it is already renewed.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
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