No Code vinyl - Who You Are lyrics changed

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  • mikerl
    mikerl Posts: 580
    This is a technical matter. The "Avalanche" was most likely a lyric that was used in a final edit, but at the time the band used a previous mix, for whatever reason..... Now 20 years later, as they go to remaster, the only version available is the last one they recorded, hence the "Avalanche" lyric. I'm sure it was a last minute vocal overdub that was never used, and now is all that is available.
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  • EchoesOnMars
    EchoesOnMars Reading, Pennsylvania Posts: 422
    doesnt really bother me, I personally like the rvm version more
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    Yeh I think it's pretty cool.
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  • mikerl
    mikerl Posts: 580
    It's one of my favorite songs... I hold the original pretty dear, so the lyric change catches me off guard.

    It's not that I think the change is inferior, but I have been listening to the original for 20 years.. So it's hard to swallow.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,991
    I'm guessing they have a different version marked as "Master" so when they grabbed it for RVM they grabbed this different take. And then when they went to do these, they grabbed it again.
  • wecrazybob
    wecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    We totalled got George Lukased!
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    wecrazybob said:

    We totalled got George Lukased!

    I don't understand what that means?
  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,550
    This is kinda disappointing. I'd like an explanation.
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    my2hands said:

    wecrazybob said:

    We totalled got George Lukased!

    I don't understand what that means?
    It's like adding new CGI effects...its like Greedo shooting first....
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  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,413
    Of The Aggie said:

    This is kinda disappointing. I'd like an explanation.

    They felt like it.

    Glad people found something to complain about with the reissues I was getting worried about the boards
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  • Of The Aggie
    Of The Aggie The ATX Posts: 1,550
    SomethingCreative said:

    Of The Aggie said:

    This is kinda disappointing. I'd like an explanation.

    They felt like it.

    Glad people found something to complain about with the reissues I was getting worried about the boards
    If "they felt like it" was the reason then say that there is a difference from the original and say we wanted to include this version. The marketing for this made it seem like everything was the same as the original from the packaging to the inserts but no mention that they included a different version of a track. I think that's an important piece of information.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,599
    my2hands said:

    wecrazybob said:

    We totalled got George Lukased!

    I don't understand what that means?
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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    my2hands said:

    wecrazybob said:

    We totalled got George Lukased!

    I don't understand what that means?
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    :lol: yep
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,991
    Of The Aggie said:

    This is kinda disappointing. I'd like an explanation.

    Tim Simmons said:

    I'm guessing they have a different version marked as "Master" so when they grabbed it for RVM they grabbed this different take. And then when they went to do these, they grabbed it again.

  • McCready00
    McCready00 Posts: 371
    It's a Scandal !
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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Sabotage!
  • SomethingCreative
    SomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,413
    Of The Aggie said:

    SomethingCreative said:

    Of The Aggie said:

    This is kinda disappointing. I'd like an explanation.

    They felt like it.

    Glad people found something to complain about with the reissues I was getting worried about the boards
    If "they felt like it" was the reason then say that there is a difference from the original and say we wanted to include this version. The marketing for this made it seem like everything was the same as the original from the packaging to the inserts but no mention that they included a different version of a track. I think that's an important piece of information.
    Ok valid point with the way it was marketed, definitely said it was an exact reproduction. Agree to disagree on the disappointment though, I see stuff like that as kind of a fun little surprise. Now if the whole song was like a different take... or Eddie now 20 years later decided he needs to rerecord a bunch of vocal tracks, that would be a different story.
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,680
    Yay! The value of the OG vinyl should stay the same!
  • whoanelly15
    whoanelly15 Posts: 742
    Always thought it was "Circumstance, grabbing hands".
  • scurtis
    scurtis Posts: 2,477
    Something to identify a repress from the original. Phew. ;)
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