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Justice Department Plans to Stop Using Private Prisons

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The announcement comes after a Mother Jones investigation found serious deficiencies at a private prison in Louisiana.

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/department-justice-plans-end-private-prison
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited August 2016
    In the world of duh.

    How many people have been locked up for the benefit of profit? I'm cautiously optimistic.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung said:

    In the world of duh.

    How many people have been locked up for the benefit of profit? I'm cautiously optimistic.

    How can you be?

    You're the one that consistently states government interference in our lives is unnecessary- that we can competently and ethically provide all services privately.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Yawn, as if I didn't expect this reply.

    I'm not putting faith into government. I'm putting faith in that people finally see how the scam works.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    edited August 2016
    I can't believe private prisons are legal. Sick sick sick. This is good news.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    unsung said:

    Yawn, as if I didn't expect this reply.

    I'm not putting faith into government. I'm putting faith in that people finally see how the scam works.

    So wait a minute... you don't want government involvement, you agree that private prisons don't work. To whom then do we entrust this rather nasty business?
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Doesn't seem to matter who is running the system ... the results seem to be negative and horrible either way. But private is definitely not the best choice.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    PJ_Soul said:

    I can't beleive private prisons are legal. Sick sick sick. This is good news.

    Your taxes fund prisons.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    Yawn, as if I didn't expect this reply.

    I'm not putting faith into government. I'm putting faith in that people finally see how the scam works.

    So wait a minute... you don't want government involvement, you agree that private prisons don't work. To whom then do we entrust this rather nasty business?
    It would be left up to each State.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    edited August 2016
    unsung said:

    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    Yawn, as if I didn't expect this reply.

    I'm not putting faith into government. I'm putting faith in that people finally see how the scam works.

    So wait a minute... you don't want government involvement, you agree that private prisons don't work. To whom then do we entrust this rather nasty business?
    It would be left up to each State.
    That would clear Nevada out in about 3 days! No, seriously, you would see people migrating all over the place. And think of all the people who would be gasses, hung, shot, and electrocuted in places like Texas. It would be nuts.
    Post edited by brianlux on
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I can't believe private prisons are legal. Sick sick sick. This is good news.

    Your taxes fund prisons.
    Yeah, so?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    Yawn, as if I didn't expect this reply.

    I'm not putting faith into government. I'm putting faith in that people finally see how the scam works.

    So wait a minute... you don't want government involvement, you agree that private prisons don't work. To whom then do we entrust this rather nasty business?
    It would be left up to each State.
    That would clear Nevada out in about 3 days! No, seriously, you would see people migrating all over the place. And think of all the people who would be gasses, hung, shot, and electrocuted in places like Texas. It would be nuts.
    A little dramatic, no?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    unsung said:

    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    Yawn, as if I didn't expect this reply.

    I'm not putting faith into government. I'm putting faith in that people finally see how the scam works.

    So wait a minute... you don't want government involvement, you agree that private prisons don't work. To whom then do we entrust this rather nasty business?
    It would be left up to each State.
    That would clear Nevada out in about 3 days! No, seriously, you would see people migrating all over the place. And think of all the people who would be gasses, hung, shot, and electrocuted in places like Texas. It would be nuts.
    A little dramatic, no?
    Yes but no.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    The Wild West metaphor that liberals enjoy using for any time a law is repealed or whenever government actually takes a step back generally hasn't actually resulted in shootouts and mayhem in the streets.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    unsung said:

    The Wild West metaphor that liberals enjoy using for any time a law is repealed or whenever government actually takes a step back generally hasn't actually resulted in shootouts and mayhem in the streets.

    Oh don't I wish! This happens on Main Street in my town at least once or twice a year:
    image

    And then there's this guy:
    image

    It's dangerous out here!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    And where might that be?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Waaaay out west, pardner.
    image
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    In the world of duh.

    How many people have been locked up for the benefit of profit? I'm cautiously optimistic.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal

    Only a few thousand minors in this one case, nothing to see here.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    brianlux said:

    unsung said:

    Yawn, as if I didn't expect this reply.

    I'm not putting faith into government. I'm putting faith in that people finally see how the scam works.

    So wait a minute... you don't want government involvement, you agree that private prisons don't work. To whom then do we entrust this rather nasty business?
    It would be left up to each State.
    Riiiiiigggghhttt....
    Because everyone knows that only the big bad Federal boogeyman is capable of corruption, state and local governments are immune to all that.
    Oh, wait...

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal


    You seem not to care what states do, as long as the Federal boogeyman stays out of it.
    Tell me, do you think southern states should still have the authority to administer slavery? Or did the Federal boogeyman have the authority to override that nasty little habit?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Cool, thanks for the link, twice.

    Constitutionally it should be handled by the States.

    Slavery? You mean the practice that was allowed by the federal government? Thank God government saved us from government.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    In the world of duh.

    How many people have been locked up for the benefit of profit? I'm cautiously optimistic.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal

    Only a few thousand minors in this one case, nothing to see here.
    Actually, I'm happy this judge was locked up. I think you have a misconception that I believe people should be kidnapped and thrown in cages because corrupt politicians say so.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    In the world of duh.

    How many people have been locked up for the benefit of profit? I'm cautiously optimistic.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal

    Only a few thousand minors in this one case, nothing to see here.
    Actually, I'm happy this judge was locked up. I think you have a misconception that I believe people should be kidnapped and thrown in cages because corrupt politicians say so.
    Given your ideology and regular use of sarcasm (not faulting you on that) I thought you were being sarcastic. After all, anything government can do, private business can do better, right?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    Cool, thanks for the link, twice.

    Constitutionally it should be handled by the States.

    Slavery? You mean the practice that was allowed by the federal government? Thank God government saved us from government.

    So you don't care about corruption in general, just the Federal boogeyman.

    Nice deflection (again) on the states rights vs. human rights problem.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    edited August 2016
    It's funny, you claim deflection but I've actually addressed your questions.

    Here, let me devote more time to fill your special needs.

    I'm against locking up people for profit. I'm against most laws because they end up locking up people for profit. I'm against corruption at any level. Your accusation about not caring about corruption is directed at the wrong person, instead it should be directed at every person that will cast a vote for that POS Clinton.

    So please, let's talk about deflection.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung said:

    It's funny, you claim deflection but I've actually addressed your questions.

    Here, let me devote more time to fill your special needs.

    I'm against locking up people for profit. I'm against most laws because they end up locking up people for profit. I'm against corruption at any level. Your accusation about not caring about corruption is directed at the wrong person, instead it should be directed at every person that will cast a vote for that POS Clinton.

    So please, let's talk about deflection.

    You'd prefer Trump?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    It's funny, you claim deflection but I've actually addressed your questions.

    Here, let me devote more time to fill your special needs.

    I'm against locking up people for profit. I'm against most laws because they end up locking up people for profit. I'm against corruption at any level. Your accusation about not caring about corruption is directed at the wrong person, instead it should be directed at every person that will cast a vote for that POS Clinton.

    So please, let's talk about deflection.

    You'd prefer Trump?
    Is that the MO of this forum these days? Does everything have to come with a disclaimer?

    But yeah I would take Trump a million times over the criminal Clinton, but I'm not voting for him either because he doesn't push for more liberty.

    I'm not voting, I've said it before, none are worthy of my selection, I don't need a ruler, and none promote liberty. Accept it.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    It's a start.

    image

    https://thinkprogress.org/the-federal-government-is-not-actually-ending-private-prisons-40e8c8dbf976#.uznezet73
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    It's funny, you claim deflection but I've actually addressed your questions.

    Here, let me devote more time to fill your special needs.

    I'm against locking up people for profit. I'm against most laws because they end up locking up people for profit. I'm against corruption at any level. Your accusation about not caring about corruption is directed at the wrong person, instead it should be directed at every person that will cast a vote for that POS Clinton.

    So please, let's talk about deflection.

    I was speaking on your continual evasion of the argument about your ideology that spans nearly every thread you enter with anti-government sentiments.
    You perform the same function here that every libertarian I know performs on the internet.
    You claim to have an airtight ideology and you drop catch phrases about ending the Fed and crooked politicians, mention Article 3 section 2, or whatever it is, and then refuse to actually debate your ideology, as though it is beneath you, or perhaps the ideology. You say "muh roads", but you won't (or more likely can't) provide evidence to refute the criticisms laid at your feet. You shout about states' rights, and, again, you won't (or can't) answer simple questions about the consequences of those states' rights.

    I know, I know, you don't self-identify as a libertarian anymore, but that's the ideology you espouse, whether you prefer to label it as such or not.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    You can't imagine your life without government, yet you expect me to live my life in the limits of your imagination.

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    You can't imagine your life without government, yet you expect me to live my life in the limits of your imagination.

    I don't know what you mean, I don't live in imagination-land, that's the libertarian's purview.
    I live in the context of the historical record and reality, where the government you want failed the people who lived under it.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    unsung said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    unsung said:

    It's funny, you claim deflection but I've actually addressed your questions.

    Here, let me devote more time to fill your special needs.

    I'm against locking up people for profit. I'm against most laws because they end up locking up people for profit. I'm against corruption at any level. Your accusation about not caring about corruption is directed at the wrong person, instead it should be directed at every person that will cast a vote for that POS Clinton.

    So please, let's talk about deflection.

    You'd prefer Trump?
    Is that the MO of this forum these days? Does everything have to come with a disclaimer?

    But yeah I would take Trump a million times over the criminal Clinton, but I'm not voting for him either because he doesn't push for more liberty.

    I'm not voting, I've said it before, none are worthy of my selection, I don't need a ruler, and none promote liberty. Accept it.
    It's your reality, man.

    I have to say, I think it's pick your poison; however, let's be honest... Trump? Like seriously... Trump? Yikes.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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