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Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited July 2016 in A Moving Train
funny, I remember everybody saying "tax it" it will help the economy......I never understood why anybody would ask for taxes just to get pot legalized.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-pot-businesses-are-getting-smoked-by-high-taxes/

and it's still illegal as far as the fed's are concerned !.....pot smokers have effectively set themselves up for a higher(no pun intended) price than when it was illegal in state laws.....leave it to the government to tax the availability of something to keep it out of reach....kind of like ammo right ?

Godfather.

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Godfather. said:

    funny, I remember everybody saying "tax it" it will help the economy......I never understood why anybody would ask for taxes just to get pot legalized.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-pot-businesses-are-getting-smoked-by-high-taxes/

    and it's still illegal as far as the fed's are concerned !.....pot smokers have effectively set themselves up for a higher(no pun intended) price than when it was illegal in state laws.....leave it to the government to tax the availability of something to keep it out of reach....kind of like ammo right ?

    Godfather.

    It's much cheaper in Colorado than anywhere else. Medical users get ounces of the best bud for under $200 an ounce.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    no argument here, they did try that in the 30's but the Mob made so much money and killed so many people that the fed's gave in.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    rgambs said:

    Godfather. said:

    funny, I remember everybody saying "tax it" it will help the economy......I never understood why anybody would ask for taxes just to get pot legalized.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-pot-businesses-are-getting-smoked-by-high-taxes/

    and it's still illegal as far as the fed's are concerned !.....pot smokers have effectively set themselves up for a higher(no pun intended) price than when it was illegal in state laws.....leave it to the government to tax the availability of something to keep it out of reach....kind of like ammo right ?

    Godfather.

    It's much cheaper in Colorado than anywhere else. Medical users get ounces of the best bud for under $200 an ounce.
    just a thought, if the fed's legalize it the taxes will climb higher and so will growing and selling regulations, (permits ,fee's, taxes etc.) I'd be willing to bet prices will at the least double within a year of federal legalization.......hay ? if the fed's legalize it will medical insurance cover prescriptions ? or do they already ?

    Godfather.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Morning, GF.

    My insurance doesn't cover my prescription (yet covers Viagra!), but my dispensary pays the taxes. I'm not sure if or how that part will change should it become legal for recreational use too.
  • Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani Posts: 7,790
    I think the issue is with Federal taxes per that article. AZ bill for recreational use has sales tax at 15% which is double the normal tax but ok to me. Alcohol and Tobacco products get taxed at that rate or worse for sales tax. I just want this treated like any other recreational drug like alcohol. If Feds are going to fuck over dispensaries then Anheiser Busch should pay same rates.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Amongst the Ani said:

    I think the issue is with Federal taxes per that article. AZ bill for recreational use has sales tax at 15% which is double the normal tax but ok to me. Alcohol and Tobacco products get taxed at that rate or worse for sales tax. I just want this treated like any other recreational drug like alcohol. If Feds are going to fuck over dispensaries then Anheiser Busch should pay same rates.

    as big as weed is I'm sure investors will line up for a business opportunity and become bigger than Ford or GM.....then you guy's would really have "politician's in your pocket".

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    hedonist said:

    Morning, GF.

    My insurance doesn't cover my prescription (yet covers Viagra!), but my dispensary pays the taxes. I'm not sure if or how that part will change should it become legal for recreational use too.

    top o da mornin ! I bet your insurance issues will change once the fed's get on board.

    Godfather.
  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    Godfather. said:

    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    no argument here, they did try that in the 30's but the Mob made so much money and killed so many people that the fed's gave in.

    Godfather.

    Well, exactly. Drug dealers have made so much money and killed so many people that the feds ought to just give in.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    what dreams said:

    Godfather. said:

    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    no argument here, they did try that in the 30's but the Mob made so much money and killed so many people that the fed's gave in.

    Godfather.

    Well, exactly. Drug dealers have made so much money and killed so many people that the feds ought to just give in.
    they will eventually but until then they'll keep on busting your ass and stealing your stash LOL !!

    Godfather.

  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,881
    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    Home grown is definitely the best way.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    eddiec said:

    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    Home grown is definitely the best way.
    Is it really? Unless you are very good at it, home grown weed would be as crappy as home made wine.
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  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,881
    oftenreading said:

    eddiec said:

    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    Home grown is definitely the best way.
    Is it really? Unless you are very good at it, home grown weed would be as crappy as home made wine.
    Not anymore. They have autoflower now. Besides, being a bad grower only affects yield, not potency.

  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    oftenreading said:

    eddiec said:

    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    Home grown is definitely the best way.
    Is it really? Unless you are very good at it, home grown weed would be as crappy as home made wine.
    Ah no I've grown my own for two yrs and the quality has been outstanding and I grow it outside , it's all about nutrients , correct water PH and plenty of sun and who says home made wine is crap my brother in law presses his own and it turns out really nice it gets better from yr to yr !!
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Sunshine and water is all it takes!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    josevolution said:

    oftenreading said:

    eddiec said:

    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    Home grown is definitely the best way.
    Is it really? Unless you are very good at it, home grown weed would be as crappy as home made wine.
    Ah no I've grown my own for two yrs and the quality has been outstanding and I grow it outside , it's all about nutrients , correct water PH and plenty of sun and who says home made wine is crap my brother in law presses his own and it turns out really nice it gets better from yr to yr !!
    Who says home made some is crap? I do. No home made wine can compare with proper vinification techniques. But I'm glad you're pleased with what you are growing, jose.
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    The growth in Colorado is amazing. While other states are cutting budgets... Damn near everywhere you look there are new roads, new schools, or construction going on. Explosive growth in secondary support markets.

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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    rgambs said:

    Sunshine and water is all it takes!

    Or a nice indoor grow light, nutes & water/hydroponic system ;)
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    myoung321 said:

    rgambs said:

    Sunshine and water is all it takes!

    Or a nice indoor grow light, nutes & water/hydroponic system ;)
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    not for a small stealth grow..

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Wow, nice setup.

    Wish we had the room for it, but there's also something to be said about the lovely ritual of going to my dispensary and choosing among so many strains (plus the edibles factor).

    This industry is going to be great for the market. My husband's been eyeing one company in particular - I think they go by TBR.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    myoung321 said:

    rgambs said:

    Sunshine and water is all it takes!

    Or a nice indoor grow light, nutes & water/hydroponic system ;)
    Hydroponics is for people with too much time on their hands lol
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    Yes the edables is what I really like just baked some chocolate chip cookies this morning they are so good , I'd recommend for anybody with some privacy to grow your own it's so fulfilling lol ...I just ate one cookie by the time I get home I'm coasting really nice
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    rgambs said:

    myoung321 said:

    rgambs said:

    Sunshine and water is all it takes!

    Or a nice indoor grow light, nutes & water/hydroponic system ;)
    Hydroponics is for people with too much time on their hands lol

    Or have to be stealthy, because they live in American Taliban held territory ;)
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    edited July 2016
    josevolution said:

    Growing my own for two yrs fuck the taxes I don't buy weed , tell me GF why is it the you or I can make our own beer or wine at home drink a bit of it go out and kill or be killed driving intoxicated and nobody's thinks of outlawing it you tell me what is the worst of the two ?

    Alcohol or herb

    Are you suggesting you "can make your own beer or wine and drink a bit and go out and kill"? And "nobody thinks of outlawing it"? Believe it or not it actually isn't legal to drink and drive. Drunk driving has been outlawed for a long time. You actually can't, legally, drink and go kill someone..
    I don't see how that's related here. Pot isn't federally banned because of the driving impairment.
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