Greenpeace and GMO

PJPOWER
PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
edited July 2016 in A Moving Train
This anti-GMO movement is starving people.,.

107 Nobel Laureates just signed a letter slamming Greenpeace over GMOs
"How many poor people must die before we consider this a 'crime against humanity'?"
http://www.sciencealert.com/107-nobel-laureates-just-signed-a-letter-slamming-greenpeace-about-gmos
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Never trust a group or take anything they say seriously if they have .org
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    GMO's are a short sighted solution with long-term negative ramifications that will harm us and the rest of life more in the long run. Relying on short term solutions generally is not the wisest choice.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:

    GMO's are a short sighted solution with long-term negative ramifications that will harm us and the rest of life more in the long run. Relying on short term solutions generally is not the wisest choice.

    Not so sure that every type of GMO leads to long term harm. Some are only used to make a crop that is more drought tolerant, using less water, etc. some great things about using certain GMOs, and it appears many scientists agree.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    PJPOWER said:

    brianlux said:

    GMO's are a short sighted solution with long-term negative ramifications that will harm us and the rest of life more in the long run. Relying on short term solutions generally is not the wisest choice.

    Not so sure that every type of GMO leads to long term harm. Some are only used to make a crop that is more drought tolerant, using less water, etc. some great things about using certain GMOs, and it appears many scientists agree.
    I wish us all good luck with that.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:

    brianlux said:

    GMO's are a short sighted solution with long-term negative ramifications that will harm us and the rest of life more in the long run. Relying on short term solutions generally is not the wisest choice.

    Not so sure that every type of GMO leads to long term harm. Some are only used to make a crop that is more drought tolerant, using less water, etc. some great things about using certain GMOs, and it appears many scientists agree.
    This is absolutely true, but there is a huge caveat. GMOs usually come from entities that are interested and invested in maintaining the status quo in agriculture, which is so highly unsustainable it created the need for GMOs in the first place.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:

    PJPOWER said:

    brianlux said:

    GMO's are a short sighted solution with long-term negative ramifications that will harm us and the rest of life more in the long run. Relying on short term solutions generally is not the wisest choice.

    Not so sure that every type of GMO leads to long term harm. Some are only used to make a crop that is more drought tolerant, using less water, etc. some great things about using certain GMOs, and it appears many scientists agree.
    I wish us all good luck with that.
    I'm with ya :)
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    We could argue all day and night here about using or not using GMO's but one thing I think would be difficult to argue against is our right to know. Congress and our friends at Monsanto don't want us to have that choice. Welcome to the new American version of "democracy".

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/22/gmos-congress-may-block-states.html
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    Just proves Neil Young was right.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    InHiding80 said:

    Just proves Neil Young was right.

    Your short precise opinions are great and contribute a lot.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2016
    brianlux said:

    We could argue all day and night here about using or not using GMO's but one thing I think would be difficult to argue against is our right to know. Congress and our friends at Monsanto don't want us to have that choice. Welcome to the new American version of "democracy".

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/22/gmos-congress-may-block-states.html

    If they insist on passing laws enabling them to hide things in our food and us not knowing what's in our food, makes you wonder what else they are currently hiding from us.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    Free said:

    brianlux said:

    We could argue all day and night here about using or not using GMO's but one thing I think would be difficult to argue against is our right to know. Congress and our friends at Monsanto don't want us to have that choice. Welcome to the new American version of "democracy".

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/22/gmos-congress-may-block-states.html

    If they insist on passing laws enabling them to hide things in our food and us not knowing what's in our food, makes you wonder what else they are currently hiding from us.
    Exactly. And just the idea that they don't want us to know what is in our food... very suspicious!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    why would people wan to know what is in their food? lol
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    my2hands said:

    why would people wan to know what is in their food? lol

    Simple answer my2hands: curiosity. Like the time when I was a kid and stirred some Nesquik chocolate into milk to make chocolate milk and felt a lump of cocoa in my mouth and was curious as to what it looked like and pulled it out only to discover it was an earwig.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2016
    From the article I posted above:
    "They have misrepresented [GMOs] risks, benefits, and impacts, and supported the criminal destruction of approved field trials and research projects," the researchers write in their letter. "How many poor people in the world must die before we consider this a 'crime against humanity'?"
    The article goes on to talk about how many Greenpeace supporters have destroyed field trial crops and sabotaging scientific research... It would seem like many of the world's leading scientists are in disagreement with Greenpeace regarding the negative impact of GMOs. It seems to me that Greenpeace is against scientific solutions to starvation and vitamin A deficiency...or maybe they have become a large corrupt corporation with a lot to lose by GMO research...?
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  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    brianlux said:

    my2hands said:

    why would people wan to know what is in their food? lol

    Simple answer my2hands: curiosity. Like the time when I was a kid and stirred some Nesquik chocolate into milk to make chocolate milk and felt a lump of cocoa in my mouth and was curious as to what it looked like and pulled it out only to discover it was an earwig.

    Damn it Brian, I am not going to be able to sleep for a week.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    brianlux said:

    my2hands said:

    why would people wan to know what is in their food? lol

    Simple answer my2hands: curiosity. Like the time when I was a kid and stirred some Nesquik chocolate into milk to make chocolate milk and felt a lump of cocoa in my mouth and was curious as to what it looked like and pulled it out only to discover it was an earwig.

    Damn it Brian, I am not going to be able to sleep for a week.
    Sorry! I worked in a cannery for a short while when I was young. I won't tell any more horror stories about food here though, promise! Just goes to show how important it is to know what's in our food!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Something else to consider when choosing your food...
    http://www.sciencealert.com/eating-only-organic-food-is-a-sham
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2016
    brianlux said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    brianlux said:

    my2hands said:

    why would people wan to know what is in their food? lol

    Simple answer my2hands: curiosity. Like the time when I was a kid and stirred some Nesquik chocolate into milk to make chocolate milk and felt a lump of cocoa in my mouth and was curious as to what it looked like and pulled it out only to discover it was an earwig.

    Damn it Brian, I am not going to be able to sleep for a week.
    Sorry! I worked in a cannery for a short while when I was young. I won't tell any more horror stories about food here though, promise! Just goes to show how important it is to know what's in our food!
    That's why I like to hunt and garden as much as possible :). Just got done canning several jars of tomatoes actually, lol
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:

    brianlux said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    brianlux said:

    my2hands said:

    why would people wan to know what is in their food? lol

    Simple answer my2hands: curiosity. Like the time when I was a kid and stirred some Nesquik chocolate into milk to make chocolate milk and felt a lump of cocoa in my mouth and was curious as to what it looked like and pulled it out only to discover it was an earwig.

    Damn it Brian, I am not going to be able to sleep for a week.
    Sorry! I worked in a cannery for a short while when I was young. I won't tell any more horror stories about food here though, promise! Just goes to show how important it is to know what's in our food!
    That's why I like to hunt and garden as much as possible :). Just got done canning several jars of tomatoes actually, lol
    Yeah, you probably canned some bugs in there with the tomatoes. And who cares? That's just us being squeamish about something that causes us no harm.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2016
    oftenreading said:

    PJPOWER said:

    brianlux said:

    WhatYouTaughtMe said:

    brianlux said:

    my2hands said:

    why would people wan to know what is in their food? lol

    Simple answer my2hands: curiosity. Like the time when I was a kid and stirred some Nesquik chocolate into milk to make chocolate milk and felt a lump of cocoa in my mouth and was curious as to what it looked like and pulled it out only to discover it was an earwig.

    Damn it Brian, I am not going to be able to sleep for a week.
    Sorry! I worked in a cannery for a short while when I was young. I won't tell any more horror stories about food here though, promise! Just goes to show how important it is to know what's in our food!
    That's why I like to hunt and garden as much as possible :). Just got done canning several jars of tomatoes actually, lol
    Yeah, you probably canned some bugs in there with the tomatoes. And who cares? That's just us being squeamish about something that causes us no harm.
    Protein, ha. I, for one, grew up working on my family's ranch and am squeamish about very little these days. Pretty aware and realistic about where my food comes from. Thankfully, a large portion is from hunting and gardening these days. Only time I buy meat from the store is if I want to smoke a rack of ribs or some good sockeye salmon. Otherwise, my parents raise grass fed cattle and we usually buy a half steer from them once a year, get plenty venison during deer season, and usually shoot a hog or two for sausage.
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