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Do certain cities make for better Pearl Jam shows ?

ryph raphryph raph Posts: 887
edited June 2016 in Given To Fly (live)
Listening to the boots for 26 years and seeing P.J. in various cities over that time here in the states. I have noticed that some cities bring more out of the band than others. Berlin, Manchester, anywhere in Italy, Chicago, Buffalo.
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  • mschostokmschostok Posts: 858
    I think crowds in different cities are better than others, but in terms of performances I'm not sure. The band plays stellar shows wherever, especially in towns you wouldn't expect (Moline, Buffalo, Phoenix, Milwaukee)
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  • YefaYefa Posts: 1,133
    Chicago and Buffalo? I saw the 2009 Chicago and 2013 Buffalo shows and while they were good I wouldn't say they were particularly special by PJ standards.
    I'd say Boston, Hartford, NYC, and Philadelphia often bring special shows. There are also ones that are tough to predict ahead of time like Moline, Milwaukee, Greenville, and Quebec City.
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  • HH140540HH140540 Posts: 545
    They have had great shows in Atlanta, dating all the way back to '91 @ The Point. Two nights in '94 at The Fox were epic and '96, '98, & '03 were amazing.
  • Mamasan80Mamasan80 Posts: 298
    It's hard to nail any specific city as having great Pearl Jam shows. Some cities - like Boston, NY, Philadelphia - have had several (at least 5 in each city) great shows, but they've also had their share of duds - MSG ! '98, Phllly '03, Boston 2006, etc. Same for Seattle and the aforementioned Atlanta. Since about 98% of PJ shows these days are pretty freaking incredlibe, getting to any show will be just fine!

    It would be pretty cool if PJ had some special place where they play every year and you know the shows are gonna be great (think Dick's and Phish or DMB and the Gorge) - but I think that ship has probably sailed.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,989
    edited June 2016
    From a set list perspective I see a difference. Places they go to rarely get sets heavier on hits. I had that at Albany in 2003 and kind of at St. Paul in 2014. Seems like they mix it up more in places they play a lot.

    Of course Moline was an exception. And I am sure there are others.

    Whether that makes any show "better" is up to you. I have been to enough shows that hit-heavy is not my cup of tea.
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  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,413
    Every show is great regardless of location..... I haven't seen them at a festival event
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,680
    Mamasan80 said:

    It's hard to nail any specific city as having great Pearl Jam shows. Some cities - like Boston, NY, Philadelphia - have had several (at least 5 in each city) great shows, but they've also had their share of duds - MSG ! '98, Phllly '03, Boston 2006, etc. Same for Seattle and the aforementioned Atlanta. Since about 98% of PJ shows these days are pretty freaking incredlibe, getting to any show will be just fine!

    Did i read this wrong or do u classify MSG 98 and Spectrum 03 as duds?
  • DiRtYyELLoWoCeAnDiRtYyELLoWoCeAn Posts: 1,605
    cp3iverson said:

    Mamasan80 said:

    It's hard to nail any specific city as having great Pearl Jam shows. Some cities - like Boston, NY, Philadelphia - have had several (at least 5 in each city) great shows, but they've also had their share of duds - MSG ! '98, Phllly '03, Boston 2006, etc. Same for Seattle and the aforementioned Atlanta. Since about 98% of PJ shows these days are pretty freaking incredlibe, getting to any show will be just fine!

    Did i read this wrong or do u classify MSG 98 and Spectrum 03 as duds?
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  • PapPap Posts: 28,823
    Pearl Jam @ the forgotten city: Athens, Greece! :smile:
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 41,834
    just philly image
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  • whoanelly15whoanelly15 Posts: 740
    Umm, yes. ALL of them. All cities make for great Pearl Jam shows. Also towns, townships, villages... really anywhere two or more people with ears gather. As long as it's on Earth.
  • chitownp76chitownp76 Posts: 1,469
    After seeing two shows in Philly and hearing the boots, I think Philly brings out the best in PJ. I would also agree with the smaller shows mentioned earlier...Moline Milwaukee Greenville ect
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,446
    well yea Philly of course :smiley:

    but really I think timing plays a big role as well. a show with a day or two off before or maybe a Friday or Saturday night. Greenville was Saturday night with 2 days off before. Was setup to be a high energy show. I know some on here belittled the NYC shows but those came off the 2 great Philly shows with only 1 day in between and they were Sunday and Monday nights. timing folks...it's huge
  • ceskaceska Posts: 1,115
    Pretty sure that guy meant MSG1 98 was a dud. He typed"!" instead of "1" (same key). I
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,141
    Hartford
  • buck502000buck502000 Posts: 8,951
    Grand Rapids, "Who knew?"
  • PapPap Posts: 28,823
    End of the tour shows: Athens 2006 & Milton Keynes 2014! :wink:
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,141
    Pap said:

    End of the tour shows: Athens 2006 & Milton Keynes 2014! :wink:

    I can't disagree with this, Denver '14 was insane, and definitely in my top 5 shows.
  • mwplummwplum Posts: 1,531
    Although in Milwaukee EV said it's often the second last show...hard to disagree with Milwaukee or Toronto 1..
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  • mwplummwplum Posts: 1,531
    ....but Denver was incredible too...we are so lucky they give it their all every night!
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Posts: 2,577
    mwplum said:

    ....but Denver was incredible too...we are so lucky they give it their all every night!

    Toronto 2 was a spectacular show as well, though it seems my city's gotten a rep for good shows over the years along with the others mentioned. Binonto certainly felt special as well.
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  • JmcgogreenJmcgogreen Posts: 21
    buck502000 said:

    Grand Rapids, "Who knew?"

    Such a great show. Crowd was great right from the opener "elderly woman". Speaking of that song does anyone know the amount of times they've opened with that?
  • DukeMDukeM Posts: 25
    My .2 cents: Based on seeing shows in different cities going back to 1995, YES. All the time? No. But a LOT!
    Some cities just elevate PJ's performances because the crowds are so hard core and into it that it feeds the band.
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    Amsterdam .... love the vibe, the city, the people...
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    mwplum said:

    ....but Denver was incredible too...we are so lucky they give it their all every night!

    October 2014 was amazing... one of my favs.

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  • jarkkonieminenjarkkonieminen Posts: 126
    Small Town has opened 26 times according to Live Footsteps
    Jmcgogreen said:

    buck502000 said:

    Grand Rapids, "Who knew?"

    Such a great show. Crowd was great right from the opener "elderly woman". Speaking of that song does anyone know the amount of times they've opened with that?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,897
    As others have said, I think it has to do with the crowds in particular cities... of course, better crowds lead to better performances by the band. It's all interconnected. Also, some cities can have a shit crowd at one show and a great one at the next, almost like it just depends on the air that that day.
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  • nycratsnycrats Posts: 1,351
    just go see them in canada.. they always rage canada.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,403
    nycrats said:

    just go see them in canada.. they always rage canada.

    I've seen them in toronto, kitchener and montreal and the crowd/band are en fuego!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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