How is it considered 'ok' to do the periscope thing at shows?

Big Bank Hank

bootlegger10 said:

First...obviously the quality is good enough that people are using Periscope and watching it, so that whole excuse that the quality isn't good enough doesn't work.

It is up to the band to try to shut it down and they haven't said a word on the message board or deleted Periscope links in the concert threads so for now it appears the band does not have a problem with it.

I do get where the OP is coming from though with people thinking it is okay to broadcast PJ shows on the web without asking for or receiving any permission.

as long as the band sells the shows out and doesn't see some significant drop in revenue from bootleg sales, not sure the band will ever care, all shit like that and youtube videos do is further promote the band and create greater ticket demand.

ckravitz

RKCNDY said:

ckravitz said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Degeneratefk said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

everyone ripping the OP needs to calm down. I somewhat agree with the premise of his post. imagine what will happen in 5 years when you can periscope in HD video and audio quality. you will see a very different tone to these responses. and also from the mods. you didn't pay to see the show, so you shouldn't see the show. that makes sense in a black and white world. as others have said, however, as of right now, the feeds are pretty terrible most of the time, so it's not like you are going to have people staying home to watch on periscope instead of going to the show.

YET.

remember when downloading off the net was low quality? no one made a big fuss over it until that quality got close or the same as the actual product and people stopped PAYING. it's coming. you know it is.

Kind of to my point earlier. The band isn't losing any money from people periscoping. Even when it goes to HD. Plus, how can it be stopped when by the time it can be done in HD, the device will be the size of a thumb drive.

yeah, you are probably right. or it might be a fucking contact lens. who knows.

It's crazy but you are almost certainly correct that it will be. Google glass can already record video so I wouldnt be shocked at all if some kind of lens that is connected via bluetooth to a device in your pocket is on the way!

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/03/sony-applies-for-patent-on-contact-lens-camera-that-shoots-photos-in-a-blink.html

PJ_Soul said:

ckravitz said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Degeneratefk said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

everyone ripping the OP needs to calm down. I somewhat agree with the premise of his post. imagine what will happen in 5 years when you can periscope in HD video and audio quality. you will see a very different tone to these responses. and also from the mods. you didn't pay to see the show, so you shouldn't see the show. that makes sense in a black and white world. as others have said, however, as of right now, the feeds are pretty terrible most of the time, so it's not like you are going to have people staying home to watch on periscope instead of going to the show.

YET.

remember when downloading off the net was low quality? no one made a big fuss over it until that quality got close or the same as the actual product and people stopped PAYING. it's coming. you know it is.

Kind of to my point earlier. The band isn't losing any money from people periscoping. Even when it goes to HD. Plus, how can it be stopped when by the time it can be done in HD, the device will be the size of a thumb drive.

yeah, you are probably right. or it might be a fucking contact lens. who knows.

It's crazy but you are almost certainly correct that it will be. Google glass can already record video so I wouldnt be shocked at all if some kind of lens that is connected via bluetooth to a device in your pocket is on the way!

You can already buy stuff like that. Invisible cameras that record. It's basically spy equipment and easy to get.

I'm torn between "that's so awesome" and "creepy". Haha.

jeffbr

Big Bank Hank said:

bootlegger10 said:

First...obviously the quality is good enough that people are using Periscope and watching it, so that whole excuse that the quality isn't good enough doesn't work.

It is up to the band to try to shut it down and they haven't said a word on the message board or deleted Periscope links in the concert threads so for now it appears the band does not have a problem with it.

I do get where the OP is coming from though with people thinking it is okay to broadcast PJ shows on the web without asking for or receiving any permission.

as long as the band sells the shows out and doesn't see some significant drop in revenue from bootleg sales, not sure the band will ever care, all shit like that and youtube videos do is further promote the band and create greater ticket demand.

100% this. PJ isn't shy about cease and desists or deleting posts. If this were revenue impacting, they'd be actively shutting things down. Periscope is in no way negatively impacting the band's revenue stream. The shows are already sold out, and nobody in their right mind is deciding between attending the show, or just catching it on Periscope.

jdesantis1983

nothingman44 said:

I've been trying to figure out why someone that is actually AT the show would want to hold their phone for 3+ hours just to periscope the show for all us folks not in attendance.

Put the phone down and enjoy the show!

My thoughts also...it seems like a waste of money on tickets to gratify those who didn't buy tickets.

MayDay10

PJ should really dive into the paid streaming option. Would pay for the quality.

I have no problem with the Periscope thing as long as the band or mgt stays silent on it (or someday says they are cool with it). Also, people filming should do the 'chest hold' and not block anyone's view.

RKCNDY

jdesantis1983 said:

nothingman44 said:

I've been trying to figure out why someone that is actually AT the show would want to hold their phone for 3+ hours just to periscope the show for all us folks not in attendance.

Put the phone down and enjoy the show!

My thoughts also...it seems like a waste of money on tickets to gratify those who didn't buy tickets.

It's all for the 'likes' on Periscope.

Big Bank Hank

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bootlegger10

jeffbr said:

Big Bank Hank said:

bootlegger10 said:

First...obviously the quality is good enough that people are using Periscope and watching it, so that whole excuse that the quality isn't good enough doesn't work.

It is up to the band to try to shut it down and they haven't said a word on the message board or deleted Periscope links in the concert threads so for now it appears the band does not have a problem with it.

I do get where the OP is coming from though with people thinking it is okay to broadcast PJ shows on the web without asking for or receiving any permission.

as long as the band sells the shows out and doesn't see some significant drop in revenue from bootleg sales, not sure the band will ever care, all shit like that and youtube videos do is further promote the band and create greater ticket demand.

100% this. PJ isn't shy about cease and desists or deleting posts. If this were revenue impacting, they'd be actively shutting things down. Periscope is in no way negatively impacting the band's revenue stream. The shows are already sold out, and nobody in their right mind is deciding between attending the show, or just catching it on Periscope.

I agree it isn't hurting the band financially, but that doesn't mean we have the right to broadcast their shows. I don't think it will hurt you financially if I shit on your lawn, but that doesn't mean I have a right to do that. For now though the band is aware of it and is not stopping it so it seems okay to Periscope (or they just realize it is a lost cause at this point which I think is probably more the case).

AngryGreg

I am guessing Periscope is a phone thing. I know nothing about it, but love sharing my uninformed opinion. I don't know how it is considered ok for someone to hold up their phone for an entire show. I'd love a show where phones stay in pockets.

Also, get off my lawn.