RIP Old Hickory
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/move-over-andrew-jackson-harriet-tubman-is-coming-to-the-dollar20-bill/ar-BBs1Nfa
"The mischief springs from the power which the monied interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges which they have succeeded in obtaining...and unless you become more watchful in your states and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of government have been given or bartered away."- Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address, 1837"
"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves.
Andrew Jackson addressing a group of bankers at the White House
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Our country has the most screwed up priorities. Who even gives a shit about this? Of course they will offer the excuse that he was chosen because of actions and policies that he supported which are offensive by today's standards but were widely accepted in their time...and it goes without saying you'll be labeled racist if you don't support this change.
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Really? People are going to bitch that a woman (and an immensely brave and historical one) is on a $10 bill?. This has been in the works for months.0
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changed to the 20Free said:Really? People are going to bitch that a woman (and an immensely brave and historical one) is on a $10 bill?. This has been in the works for months.
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change them all!!!
some incredibly important people in history other than a handful of white men are equally desrving in their own right._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
Looks like it will be the year 2030 before we ever would see it. By then
PresidentEmperor Trump will be ruling a radioactive wasteland in one of these suits ...Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Totally agree.mickeyrat said:change them all!!!
some incredibly important people in history other than a handful of white men are equally desrving in their own right.
Harriet Tubman on the 20? You bet!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Franklin, your up next!Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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Go all the way, I say. Go Jimi!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Andrew Jackson is still going to appear on the other side so he is not going away completely.0
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Andrew Jackson had slaves. And he's sharing a bill with Harriet Tubmann? Say it ain't so! That gets my eyes rolling.Tremorman said:Andrew Jackson is still going to appear on the other side so he is not going away completely.
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back of the bus thoughbrianlux said:
Andrew Jackson had slaves. And he's sharing a bill with Harriet Tubmann? Say it ain't so! That gets my eyes rolling.Tremorman said:Andrew Jackson is still going to appear on the other side so he is not going away completely.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
Andrew Jackson was a complex president. He was the first 'common man' president we had, one that wasn't cut from aristocracy. He has a strong legacy as a solider, common democracy (his anger from getting screwed in 1824) and the Bank Wars with Nicholas Biddle. His legacy is tarnished specifically by Indian Removal (everyone forgets that one) and of course his views and actions on slavery. But it's very, very important that we try to limit our judgment on figures from 200 years ago, utilizing our morals of today. This is a concept known as 'historical perspective'. Every one of our founding fathers is flawed if judged by today.
I'd love to have a debate about Jackson. He's a fascinating character.
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Since we had lots of prominent figures who owned slaves early in this country's history, I wouldn't remove Jackson on that fact alone. I think the Indians' Trail of Tears was a tragedy that still has ramifications today, just as slavery does. I don't think it was forgotten in the debate about him; I've heard more people mention that in recent days than talked about him being a slave owner."The stars are all connected to the brain."0
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Agreed on your statement about the fathers. I haven't been paying attention to the money debate because I don't really care. But I'm glad Indian Removal is central. He was a 'leader' of that and the ramifications are real.Who Princess said:Since we had lots of prominent figures who owned slaves early in this country's history, I wouldn't remove Jackson on that fact alone. I think the Indians' Trail of Tears was a tragedy that still has ramifications today, just as slavery does. I don't think it was forgotten in the debate about him; I've heard more people mention that in recent days than talked about him being a slave owner.
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Good point!Who Princess said:Since we had lots of prominent figures who owned slaves early in this country's history, I wouldn't remove Jackson on that fact alone. I think the Indians' Trail of Tears was a tragedy that still has ramifications today, just as slavery does. I don't think it was forgotten in the debate about him; I've heard more people mention that in recent days than talked about him being a slave owner.
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"dance to the sunWho Princess said:Since we had lots of prominent figures who owned slaves early in this country's history, I wouldn't remove Jackson on that fact alone. I think the Indians' Trail of Tears was a tragedy that still has ramifications today, just as slavery does. I don't think it was forgotten in the debate about him; I've heard more people mention that in recent days than talked about him being a slave owner.
a kiss to the earth
embrace a stone
come the small black book
come the brandy cask
one strange disease
the well worded paper
signed by the drunken
hands of thieves
and suddenly
they were told to leave
as the snake uncoiled on a road
the length was eighty miles
wagons' weary horses
lead the feverish exiles
barefoot in the early snow
on a ridge
where they beheld their home
coarse and barren
not the haven
promised by the Father
Jaksa Chula Harjo
Jaksa Chula Harjo
Jaksa Chula Harjo (*)
the Red Sticks first and
the Dancing Ghosts were
pierced with arms of fire
and the weeping widows
left could not avenge
so the Western Star manifest its will
drove them clear into the Pacific O
gone the way of flesh
turned pale and died
by your god's decree
for he hated me"
(* Cherokee name for Andrew Jackson)
- 10,000 Maniacs - Among The Americanshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REeVXsyFrBk
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Erase history....erase history....erase history....erase history....erase history.0
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Nothings being erased. Just fleshed out."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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I rarely use cash anymore and don't rely on it for history lessons, so I don't have much an opinion on the issue. But if Jackson stays, the photoshop job has to go.0
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