An encore is one to three songs. After the performer is done and the fans clap loud enough for them to come back out.
So basically Pearl Jam PLANS not only one, but two encores in advance, for when we clap so loud for them to come back because we actually think they're finished when they leave the first time? And then the second and third encore put together run as long as the originally single planned set?
Call it what you want I just know when they leave the stage the first time they are coming back...they have been doing this too long for us not to expect it, but love how the crowd still cheers for them to come back
But what about when they only do one encore? Is that two sets and no encores or one set and one encore? What about three encores? Three sets and one encore or two sets and two encores? These are important questions!
Tell me the last time there weren't three sets. And the third set truly has become predictable . . . Alive, RITFW, YL with another leading song or two thrown in as a bone. Cue Ed throwing out some tambourines. The second set is the slow, sit down set with the interaction with children on the rail or Ed giving some speech about the meaning of life. Set 2 usually ends with Curdoroy, SOLAT, or Rearviewmirror or a combination of. The first set is the only interesting part of the show for me anymore where I can't predict what will happen next. Every show since Backspacer has followed this pattern, save Moline and the Yield concert.
It's true anyone can call it what they want but nobody can argue that it hasn't become mostly predictable that there will be three groups of songs. First group balls on fire, second group slow tempo, third group the only one that can in any way be called an encore.
Wouldn't there normally be a planned intermission between sets?
in the world of jambands, sure. pearl jam's first "encore" isn't really an encore though, but i agree most aren't long enough to be a true second set either. think eddie just has a smoke and grabs a new bottle of wine, so it's like a break at work or something. ha.
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I've always considered them encores even though they are planned. I think all bands plan on coming back out for at-least one encore. The only time I've seen PJ come back out unplanned(at least I don't think it was) was in Columbus '03 when they came back out and played YB. I think Fucking Up was supposed to be the closer.
Any festival show. Does Wrigley count? Technically the first set was split up by the rain delay and then they only played one encore. The only other shows I've been to that was only two sets were the Ice Bowl and when they opened for Tom Petty.
I remember a PJ show I went to here in Melbourne, maybe the '06 tour and people around me started to leave after the main set, and I heard one person questioning whether they'd come back on, and being excited when they did, it was if it was like they weren't expecting an encore.
Maybe the band basically need to play two mini shows.
I remember a PJ show I went to here in Melbourne, maybe the '06 tour and people around me started to leave after the main set, and I heard one person questioning whether they'd come back on, and being excited when they did, it was if it was like they weren't expecting an encore.
Maybe the band basically need to play two mini shows.
Sort of a side note - I have noticed some other bands don't even leave the stage anymore for an encore. They say something like, "we are over that whole leaving the stage thing and coming back - this is our encore." I think that is lame and you need to do it for showmanship....
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So basically Pearl Jam PLANS not only one, but two encores in advance, for when we clap so loud for them to come back because we actually think they're finished when they leave the first time? And then the second and third encore put together run as long as the originally single planned set?
This is a really silly argument to defend.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
It's true anyone can call it what they want but nobody can argue that it hasn't become mostly predictable that there will be three groups of songs. First group balls on fire, second group slow tempo, third group the only one that can in any way be called an encore.
Hampton 2016
Columbus-2003
Cincinnati-2006
Columbus-2010
Wrigley-2013
Cincinnati-2014
Lexington-2016
Wrigley 1 & 2-2018
Maybe the band basically need to play two mini shows.
Imagine opening with release in the second 'set'
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Melbourne #3 '03
Melbourne #1 '06
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Melbourne '09
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