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Sad that you can't make your own decision on whether that's an appropriate or humane statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I don't know. I will have to ask the jury on this one.mrussel1 said:
He wasn't in a bad neighborhood when he was killed. That doesn't really answer the question. Do youPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
He was killed in a middle class neighborhood in Sanford FL. You're a conservative, I'm a moderate. I'm sure you've seen me arguing with all the Bernie people here. So I'm wondering, do you condone or agree with the statement that he made, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown", either condoning or dismissing the crime?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
They are currently out for lunch in Cuba with the prez.0 -
It's not that I don't have an opinion.mrussel1 said:
Sad that you can't make your own decision on whether that's an appropriate or humane statement.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I don't know. I will have to ask the jury on this one.mrussel1 said:
He wasn't in a bad neighborhood when he was killed. That doesn't really answer the question. Do youPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
He was killed in a middle class neighborhood in Sanford FL. You're a conservative, I'm a moderate. I'm sure you've seen me arguing with all the Bernie people here. So I'm wondering, do you condone or agree with the statement that he made, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown", either condoning or dismissing the crime?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
They are currently out for lunch in Cuba with the prez.
This thread is supposed to be about Trump protesters and all things holy.
Let's not sidetrack.0 -
I forgot to mention you forgot to insert gated community after middle class.mrussel1 said:
He wasn't in a bad neighborhood when he was killed. That doesn't really answer the question. Do youPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
He was killed in a middle class neighborhood in Sanford FL. You're a conservative, I'm a moderate. I'm sure you've seen me arguing with all the Bernie people here. So I'm wondering, do you condone or agree with the statement that he made, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown", either condoning or dismissing the crime?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
Not sure who it is supposed to be gated from though. It's a nice area right?0 -
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Really? Gated communities are usually in the ghetto?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I forgot to mention you forgot to insert gated community after middle class.mrussel1 said:
He wasn't in a bad neighborhood when he was killed. That doesn't really answer the question. Do youPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
He was killed in a middle class neighborhood in Sanford FL. You're a conservative, I'm a moderate. I'm sure you've seen me arguing with all the Bernie people here. So I'm wondering, do you condone or agree with the statement that he made, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown", either condoning or dismissing the crime?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Living in a neighourhood like that I wouldn't want to be an innocent child.mrussel1 said:
Really? You can defend Musky's comment about Trayvon earlier?PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
This is like watching the trump protesters against a peaceful trump rally.Free said:
Deluded, denial. I refuse to play games with you musky Dan, but when you get your kicks kicking other people down it's clear who you are.muskydan said:
Calm down, I have said nothin racist.... Just realist. You are the one being racist making assumptions of the race of all gangbangers....mrussel1 said:
Sick ass racist statements. Congrats for filling that void here on the AMT.muskydan said:
Get on get on the groovy train....mrussel1 said:
Nice fucking try. The two kids you pointed out were both black. You can try to nuance whatever you want but no one's buying that bullshit.muskydan said:
So all gangbabgers are black? They sure aren't in my town...it's like 65 Blk 30 Hispanic , 5 other..... Something along those lines.mrussel1 said:
Dude, that is a serious asshole statement. It's okay that a black kid got killed because he would have been killed by another black dude anyway down the road. Again. WTF. What are you doing in our community?muskydan said:
Probably not, but Zimmerman just beat a fellow gang banger to the punch.... same thing w/ lil Mike Brown....mrussel1 said:
Treycon? Really? After three years of George Zimmerman run ins with the law, you think Treyvon deserved to be shot? WTF.muskydan said:
Don't count on it, but it would be very Presidential of him if he did. That's a favorite description of Obummer I see on the train. Maybe he will have another one of his famous beer summits or say if he had a son he would look like Treycon. In all reality He is probably chopping it up on the Golf course as we speak.mrussel1 said:
I would hope and expect Obama to criticize this behavior in the coming days, if this continues.jeffbr said:
This. It is absolutely the reason I have no respect for the #blacklivesmatter fools, and now seeing "progressives" suppressing speech has completely turned me off. Regardless of their message, I can no longer respect them. We're keep hearing about Trump leading us to fascism, but the liberal statists and progressives aren't far behind these days. They just come at control from a different angle.mrussel1 said:It's a huge mistake by anyone associated with the dems. I'm not sure it moves a neutral or leans left to Trump, but it continues to cede the high ground.
Then again, me and I think yourself avoid areas like that all together.
Not sure who it is supposed to be gated from though. It's a nice area right?0 -
Does anyone else notice that these current batch of protesters mean nothing.
There is not one newsource that wants (or claims) to shut these thugs down.
The ratings are soaring and everyone wants to know what will happen next in the Donald land.
It's like watching the OJ chase but actually going the speed limit.
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Hmmmm.
I propose we have one or two days a year when we can tell it like it is. Kind of like the movie, The Purge. It's really hard to read some comments and not just f**king obliterate the gnat that wrote them sometimes.
I'm not quite ready to give up on this forum... but I'm approaching my expiration date. I'm just not fantastic at taking the higher road.
Have a nice evening. Go Zags."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??0 -
You would have a gnat free zone.Bentleyspop said:Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??
Free to just tell it like it is.
One day it would be nice to fly around like a mosquito and survive.0 -
TBThirty Bills Unpaid said:Hmmmm.
I propose we have one or two days a year when we can tell it like it is. Kind of like the movie, The Purge. It's really hard to read some comments and not just f**king obliterate the gnat that wrote them sometimes.
I'm not quite ready to give up on this forum... but I'm approaching my expiration date. I'm just not fantastic at taking the higher road.
Have a nice evening. Go Zags.
Whenever you are feeling a Bern just go to other places. AET perhaps? and discuss your favourite colour or perhaps what you are eating at the moment. That may help you breathe a little.0 -
These protestors are not the equivalent of the colonial revolutionaries. The colonial revolutionaries were against big government...these protestors want more government.Bentleyspop said:Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??0 -
No, they weren't against big government. Don't try to use today's nomenclature or talking points. Nor were they liberals in the sense that we use that term today. They were white wealthy land owners striving to become wealthier by throwing off the yoke of the crown.BS44325 said:
These protestors are not the equivalent of the colonial revolutionaries. The colonial revolutionaries were against big government...these protestors want more government.Bentleyspop said:Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??
No splinter group today gets to claim them as their own. And they probably shouldn't want to. It's not as if they were infallible.0 -
This would be a great suggestion; however, even in those seemingly benign threads... people find a way to worm themselves into them.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
TBThirty Bills Unpaid said:Hmmmm.
I propose we have one or two days a year when we can tell it like it is. Kind of like the movie, The Purge. It's really hard to read some comments and not just f**king obliterate the gnat that wrote them sometimes.
I'm not quite ready to give up on this forum... but I'm approaching my expiration date. I'm just not fantastic at taking the higher road.
Have a nice evening. Go Zags.
Whenever you are feeling a Bern just go to other places. AET perhaps? and discuss your favourite colour or perhaps what you are eating at the moment. That may help you breathe a little.
Sometimes I think it would be better to be stupid. Like, say for example, you had zero social awareness. You would never know when people think you're a moron. You could just blather away and spout off without regard and as far as you would know... you're freaking gawddamn awesome!
I dunno."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
I knew you could do it thirty!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
This would be a great suggestion; however, even in those seemingly benign threads... people find a way to worm themselves into them.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
TBThirty Bills Unpaid said:Hmmmm.
I propose we have one or two days a year when we can tell it like it is. Kind of like the movie, The Purge. It's really hard to read some comments and not just f**king obliterate the gnat that wrote them sometimes.
I'm not quite ready to give up on this forum... but I'm approaching my expiration date. I'm just not fantastic at taking the higher road.
Have a nice evening. Go Zags.
Whenever you are feeling a Bern just go to other places. AET perhaps? and discuss your favourite colour or perhaps what you are eating at the moment. That may help you breathe a little.
Sometimes I think it would be better to be stupid. Like, say for example, you had zero social awareness. You would never know when people think you're a moron. You could just blather away and spout off without regard and as far as you would know... you're freaking gawddamn awesome!
I dunno.
Now what about those protesters?
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They need to learn how to protest better.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I knew you could do it thirty!Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
This would be a great suggestion; however, even in those seemingly benign threads... people find a way to worm themselves into them.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
TBThirty Bills Unpaid said:Hmmmm.
I propose we have one or two days a year when we can tell it like it is. Kind of like the movie, The Purge. It's really hard to read some comments and not just f**king obliterate the gnat that wrote them sometimes.
I'm not quite ready to give up on this forum... but I'm approaching my expiration date. I'm just not fantastic at taking the higher road.
Have a nice evening. Go Zags.
Whenever you are feeling a Bern just go to other places. AET perhaps? and discuss your favourite colour or perhaps what you are eating at the moment. That may help you breathe a little.
Sometimes I think it would be better to be stupid. Like, say for example, you had zero social awareness. You would never know when people think you're a moron. You could just blather away and spout off without regard and as far as you would know... you're freaking gawddamn awesome!
I dunno.
Now what about those protesters?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
The crown was big government...taxing and making laws from across the ocean. The landowners were white and wealthy but they wanted self rule all the same. It's sort of outlined in the declaration of independence and the constitution if you need some source material.mrussel1 said:
No, they weren't against big government. Don't try to use today's nomenclature or talking points. Nor were they liberals in the sense that we use that term today. They were white wealthy land owners striving to become wealthier by throwing off the yoke of the crown.BS44325 said:
These protestors are not the equivalent of the colonial revolutionaries. The colonial revolutionaries were against big government...these protestors want more government.Bentleyspop said:Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??
No splinter group today gets to claim them as their own. And they probably shouldn't want to. It's not as if they were infallible.0 -
To get back on topic...
This happened:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/illegals_held_in_vicious_framingham_rape
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/03/carr_undocumented_are_running_amok_with_no_recourse
I don't support Trump but he is speaking to this problem and he is not racist to do so.
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You are using your political lens of today. The Constitution limits the FEDERAL government. Specifically the 10th Amendment grants all powers not specifically enumerated in the first 9 Amendments, to the states. It does not limit the states or the local governments what they can and cannot do, so long as they don't violate the Bill of Rights. That is not the same as libertarianism or even classic liberalism.BS44325 said:
The crown was big government...taxing and making laws from across the ocean. The landowners were white and wealthy but they wanted self rule all the same. It's sort of outlined in the declaration of independence and the constitution if you need some source material.mrussel1 said:
No, they weren't against big government. Don't try to use today's nomenclature or talking points. Nor were they liberals in the sense that we use that term today. They were white wealthy land owners striving to become wealthier by throwing off the yoke of the crown.BS44325 said:
These protestors are not the equivalent of the colonial revolutionaries. The colonial revolutionaries were against big government...these protestors want more government.Bentleyspop said:Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??
No splinter group today gets to claim them as their own. And they probably shouldn't want to. It's not as if they were infallible.
And thanks for the sarcastic sentence at the end.0 -
Yes...the constitution limits the federal government...that is my point. For Bentleyspop to compare today's protestors to the colonial revolutionaries makes no sense. Today's protestors (other then the Tea Party) are generally for a larger more unlimited/unrestrained federal government.mrussel1 said:
You are using your political lens of today. The Constitution limits the FEDERAL government. Specifically the 10th Amendment grants all powers not specifically enumerated in the first 9 Amendments, to the states. It does not limit the states or the local governments what they can and cannot do, so long as they don't violate the Bill of Rights. That is not the same as libertarianism or even classic liberalism.BS44325 said:
The crown was big government...taxing and making laws from across the ocean. The landowners were white and wealthy but they wanted self rule all the same. It's sort of outlined in the declaration of independence and the constitution if you need some source material.mrussel1 said:
No, they weren't against big government. Don't try to use today's nomenclature or talking points. Nor were they liberals in the sense that we use that term today. They were white wealthy land owners striving to become wealthier by throwing off the yoke of the crown.BS44325 said:
These protestors are not the equivalent of the colonial revolutionaries. The colonial revolutionaries were against big government...these protestors want more government.Bentleyspop said:Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??
No splinter group today gets to claim them as their own. And they probably shouldn't want to. It's not as if they were infallible.
And thanks for the sarcastic sentence at the end.0 -
Right, but the Constitution does not limit state gov't, with the exception of the Bill of Rights. It can be as large and intrusive as it wants to be. And my point was that the Founders were not classical liberals (although they had some Locke influence, obviously). I agreed that the protesters don't represent the Founding Fathers. But I'm also arguing that they were not against big gov't, only big federal gov't which is not the same. I'm saying both of you were wrong (although you, based on a much more narrow basis).BS44325 said:
Yes...the constitution limits the federal government...that is my point. For Bentleyspop to compare today's protestors to the colonial revolutionaries makes no sense. Today's protestors (other then the Tea Party) are generally for a larger more unlimited/unrestrained federal government.mrussel1 said:
You are using your political lens of today. The Constitution limits the FEDERAL government. Specifically the 10th Amendment grants all powers not specifically enumerated in the first 9 Amendments, to the states. It does not limit the states or the local governments what they can and cannot do, so long as they don't violate the Bill of Rights. That is not the same as libertarianism or even classic liberalism.BS44325 said:
The crown was big government...taxing and making laws from across the ocean. The landowners were white and wealthy but they wanted self rule all the same. It's sort of outlined in the declaration of independence and the constitution if you need some source material.mrussel1 said:
No, they weren't against big government. Don't try to use today's nomenclature or talking points. Nor were they liberals in the sense that we use that term today. They were white wealthy land owners striving to become wealthier by throwing off the yoke of the crown.BS44325 said:
These protestors are not the equivalent of the colonial revolutionaries. The colonial revolutionaries were against big government...these protestors want more government.Bentleyspop said:Before this thread gets locked I thought that I would point out that today you call the protesters "liberal extremists" but 240 years ago they were called colonial revolutionaries.
Where would we be today without those colonial revolutionaries??
No splinter group today gets to claim them as their own. And they probably shouldn't want to. It's not as if they were infallible.
And thanks for the sarcastic sentence at the end.0
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