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Well played.PJ_Soul said:
Finally the Trump voters are figuring out what everyone was trying to tell them all those months. They just didn't understand what all those words meant.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:This article is interesting http://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/whats-hot/most-searched-words-since-donald-trump-was-elected/ar-AAkhiil?ocid=spartandhp
Top list of words searched since election.
fascism
bigot
xenophobe
racism
socialism
resurgence
xenophobia
misogynywill myself to find a home, a home within myself
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It can be said that people are overly dependant on their cell phones or other devices. But that doesn't mean the government forced them into it.Go Beavers said:
I live in Oregon. Im being a bit dramatic by saying slave I suppose. But people are overly dependent on their cars and build their life around needing one in a lot of cases. This is seen when their cars breaks and their life comes to a halt, when they road rage because they've handed over that control to others, they stress, they spend 4 - $8k a year on a car which ties them down financially, etc.rgambs said:
Where do you live?Go Beavers said:
The government has forced people into cars and the car manufacturers have sold a myth that driving is freedom. Owning a car and driving makes you a slave.Degeneratefk said:
It's not really up to the government to tell me I have to use alternate forms of transportation because some don't like the oil consumption. For many people, driving a car is a necessity. I am fortunate enough to live about 8 Liles from my work. But when I lived 50 miles from my job, a car is necessary.PJ_Soul said:
I mean in a common sense way of course. Obviously food prices should never be artificially increased, as food is a necessity of life. Driving a car isn't. Of course I am open to all common sense. I.e. say increase the gas prices in urban centres but not in rural areas until public transit infrastructure in and between rural areas is built, just as an example (and people can waste their time driving to rural gas stations if they like - some people love spending to save, lol). I'm thinking loooong term here. In decades, not years. High gas prices to dissuade driving is not an uncommon idea. Western Europe already does it. Of course, their infrastructure allows for it better. North America needs to catch up (and allow for the differences in population dispersement). Anyway, yeah, I know that nobody who drives will ever agree with my attitude about this. I don't care, haha, I'm a hardliner on this subject.Degeneratefk said:
So why not artificially raise the prices of hamburger meat so that more people will eat chicken and less red meat?PJ_Soul said:
The ONLY time I do support artificially inflating prices is when it will improve people's behaviour that harms the environment. Anyway, I'm talking about developing public transit that is NOT just in the city (as my next post explained). And I disagree that necessity/unaffordability doesn't motivate change and innovation. However, I wasn't really suggesting that everyone go out and buy an electric car, not that I would discourage it. Since they already exist, I don't see why higher gas prices would affect their production. The only thing that slows the production of electric cars now is the lack of demand and the lack of charging stations.Degeneratefk said:Gern Blansten said:http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306060-former-gop-official-warns-republicans-to-stay-away-from-trump
I keep wanting to give Trump the benefit of the doubt but I'm concerned. I think we are on the verge of a major political disaster.
I'm not in support of artificially inflating the price of anything. It's not going to speed up production of an electric car. Public transit only works for people that live AND work in a city. For most of us that live outside large cities, we need cheap gas prices to, you know, go to work and stuff.PJ_Soul said:
I say the higher gas prices are the better. I actually support artificially high gas prices (well, no, because of where the money goes... but i would if the money went somewhere useful), or a bunch of taxes tacked onto the price. Anything that encourages people to drive less is a-okay in my book. If people could be priced out of the gasoline market and forced to find alternatives, that would be good in the long run IMO. I know most disagree with me, so sorry about my opinion, lol. I realize almost everyone has what they consider great and logical reasons for needing to drive everywhere ... I just think people and their lives have become way too dependent on gasoline. I say tax the living shit out of gasoline and parking and put that money straight into public transit development.rgambs said:
The oil and gas industry has been hurting for a long time now due to low crude and NG prices.PJ_Soul said:
Oil prices are complete bullshit - they mean nothing about anybody besides the fuckers running the oil and gas companies (of course Trump invests in them). Gas prices are a complete scam at all times, whether they're high or low.rgambs said:
That isn't good for jobs though...Jason P said:Gas is $0.40 cheaper then a week ago.
I'm not sad about it.
I'm not in favor of artificially raising the price of any essential goods. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.I think government needs to be more involved in forcing change when it comes to this because people at large never will as long as convenience for themselves is involved. Of course, I don't expect any North American government to give a flying fuck anytime soon... maybe when we're old.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
The government wouldn't benefit from that (well, not in the same way, anyhow). People being dependent isn't the only factor here. Just think about the whole relationship between government and oil.... it's a "special" relationship.Degeneratefk said:
It can be said that people are overly dependant on their cell phones or other devices. But that doesn't mean the government forced them into it.Go Beavers said:
I live in Oregon. Im being a bit dramatic by saying slave I suppose. But people are overly dependent on their cars and build their life around needing one in a lot of cases. This is seen when their cars breaks and their life comes to a halt, when they road rage because they've handed over that control to others, they stress, they spend 4 - $8k a year on a car which ties them down financially, etc.rgambs said:
Where do you live?Go Beavers said:
The government has forced people into cars and the car manufacturers have sold a myth that driving is freedom. Owning a car and driving makes you a slave.Degeneratefk said:
It's not really up to the government to tell me I have to use alternate forms of transportation because some don't like the oil consumption. For many people, driving a car is a necessity. I am fortunate enough to live about 8 Liles from my work. But when I lived 50 miles from my job, a car is necessary.PJ_Soul said:
I mean in a common sense way of course. Obviously food prices should never be artificially increased, as food is a necessity of life. Driving a car isn't. Of course I am open to all common sense. I.e. say increase the gas prices in urban centres but not in rural areas until public transit infrastructure in and between rural areas is built, just as an example (and people can waste their time driving to rural gas stations if they like - some people love spending to save, lol). I'm thinking loooong term here. In decades, not years. High gas prices to dissuade driving is not an uncommon idea. Western Europe already does it. Of course, their infrastructure allows for it better. North America needs to catch up (and allow for the differences in population dispersement). Anyway, yeah, I know that nobody who drives will ever agree with my attitude about this. I don't care, haha, I'm a hardliner on this subject.Degeneratefk said:
So why not artificially raise the prices of hamburger meat so that more people will eat chicken and less red meat?PJ_Soul said:
The ONLY time I do support artificially inflating prices is when it will improve people's behaviour that harms the environment. Anyway, I'm talking about developing public transit that is NOT just in the city (as my next post explained). And I disagree that necessity/unaffordability doesn't motivate change and innovation. However, I wasn't really suggesting that everyone go out and buy an electric car, not that I would discourage it. Since they already exist, I don't see why higher gas prices would affect their production. The only thing that slows the production of electric cars now is the lack of demand and the lack of charging stations.Degeneratefk said:Gern Blansten said:http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306060-former-gop-official-warns-republicans-to-stay-away-from-trump
I keep wanting to give Trump the benefit of the doubt but I'm concerned. I think we are on the verge of a major political disaster.
I'm not in support of artificially inflating the price of anything. It's not going to speed up production of an electric car. Public transit only works for people that live AND work in a city. For most of us that live outside large cities, we need cheap gas prices to, you know, go to work and stuff.PJ_Soul said:
I say the higher gas prices are the better. I actually support artificially high gas prices (well, no, because of where the money goes... but i would if the money went somewhere useful), or a bunch of taxes tacked onto the price. Anything that encourages people to drive less is a-okay in my book. If people could be priced out of the gasoline market and forced to find alternatives, that would be good in the long run IMO. I know most disagree with me, so sorry about my opinion, lol. I realize almost everyone has what they consider great and logical reasons for needing to drive everywhere ... I just think people and their lives have become way too dependent on gasoline. I say tax the living shit out of gasoline and parking and put that money straight into public transit development.rgambs said:
The oil and gas industry has been hurting for a long time now due to low crude and NG prices.PJ_Soul said:
Oil prices are complete bullshit - they mean nothing about anybody besides the fuckers running the oil and gas companies (of course Trump invests in them). Gas prices are a complete scam at all times, whether they're high or low.rgambs said:
That isn't good for jobs though...Jason P said:Gas is $0.40 cheaper then a week ago.
I'm not sad about it.
I'm not in favor of artificially raising the price of any essential goods. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.I think government needs to be more involved in forcing change when it comes to this because people at large never will as long as convenience for themselves is involved. Of course, I don't expect any North American government to give a flying fuck anytime soon... maybe when we're old.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
When cars came on the scene, the government colluded with oil companies and auto manufacturers to focus on building a transportation infrastructure almost solely focused on the car. Our culture shifted to being dependant on the car and now the continuation of this is just normalized. Our cities are designed around the car and it will take a long time to reverse this trend.Degeneratefk said:
It can be said that people are overly dependant on their cell phones or other devices. But that doesn't mean the government forced them into it.Go Beavers said:
I live in Oregon. Im being a bit dramatic by saying slave I suppose. But people are overly dependent on their cars and build their life around needing one in a lot of cases. This is seen when their cars breaks and their life comes to a halt, when they road rage because they've handed over that control to others, they stress, they spend 4 - $8k a year on a car which ties them down financially, etc.rgambs said:
Where do you live?Go Beavers said:
The government has forced people into cars and the car manufacturers have sold a myth that driving is freedom. Owning a car and driving makes you a slave.Degeneratefk said:
It's not really up to the government to tell me I have to use alternate forms of transportation because some don't like the oil consumption. For many people, driving a car is a necessity. I am fortunate enough to live about 8 Liles from my work. But when I lived 50 miles from my job, a car is necessary.PJ_Soul said:
I mean in a common sense way of course. Obviously food prices should never be artificially increased, as food is a necessity of life. Driving a car isn't. Of course I am open to all common sense. I.e. say increase the gas prices in urban centres but not in rural areas until public transit infrastructure in and between rural areas is built, just as an example (and people can waste their time driving to rural gas stations if they like - some people love spending to save, lol). I'm thinking loooong term here. In decades, not years. High gas prices to dissuade driving is not an uncommon idea. Western Europe already does it. Of course, their infrastructure allows for it better. North America needs to catch up (and allow for the differences in population dispersement). Anyway, yeah, I know that nobody who drives will ever agree with my attitude about this. I don't care, haha, I'm a hardliner on this subject.Degeneratefk said:
So why not artificially raise the prices of hamburger meat so that more people will eat chicken and less red meat?PJ_Soul said:
The ONLY time I do support artificially inflating prices is when it will improve people's behaviour that harms the environment. Anyway, I'm talking about developing public transit that is NOT just in the city (as my next post explained). And I disagree that necessity/unaffordability doesn't motivate change and innovation. However, I wasn't really suggesting that everyone go out and buy an electric car, not that I would discourage it. Since they already exist, I don't see why higher gas prices would affect their production. The only thing that slows the production of electric cars now is the lack of demand and the lack of charging stations.Degeneratefk said:Gern Blansten said:http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306060-former-gop-official-warns-republicans-to-stay-away-from-trump
I keep wanting to give Trump the benefit of the doubt but I'm concerned. I think we are on the verge of a major political disaster.
I'm not in support of artificially inflating the price of anything. It's not going to speed up production of an electric car. Public transit only works for people that live AND work in a city. For most of us that live outside large cities, we need cheap gas prices to, you know, go to work and stuff.PJ_Soul said:
I say the higher gas prices are the better. I actually support artificially high gas prices (well, no, because of where the money goes... but i would if the money went somewhere useful), or a bunch of taxes tacked onto the price. Anything that encourages people to drive less is a-okay in my book. If people could be priced out of the gasoline market and forced to find alternatives, that would be good in the long run IMO. I know most disagree with me, so sorry about my opinion, lol. I realize almost everyone has what they consider great and logical reasons for needing to drive everywhere ... I just think people and their lives have become way too dependent on gasoline. I say tax the living shit out of gasoline and parking and put that money straight into public transit development.rgambs said:
The oil and gas industry has been hurting for a long time now due to low crude and NG prices.PJ_Soul said:
Oil prices are complete bullshit - they mean nothing about anybody besides the fuckers running the oil and gas companies (of course Trump invests in them). Gas prices are a complete scam at all times, whether they're high or low.rgambs said:
That isn't good for jobs though...Jason P said:Gas is $0.40 cheaper then a week ago.
I'm not sad about it.
I'm not in favor of artificially raising the price of any essential goods. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.I think government needs to be more involved in forcing change when it comes to this because people at large never will as long as convenience for themselves is involved. Of course, I don't expect any North American government to give a flying fuck anytime soon... maybe when we're old.
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Yup.Go Beavers said:
When cars came on the scene, the government colluded with oil companies and auto manufacturers to focus on building a transportation infrastructure almost solely focused on the car. Our culture shifted to being dependant on the car and now the continuation of this is just normalized. Our cities are designed around the car and it will take a long time to reverse this trend.Degeneratefk said:
It can be said that people are overly dependant on their cell phones or other devices. But that doesn't mean the government forced them into it.Go Beavers said:
I live in Oregon. Im being a bit dramatic by saying slave I suppose. But people are overly dependent on their cars and build their life around needing one in a lot of cases. This is seen when their cars breaks and their life comes to a halt, when they road rage because they've handed over that control to others, they stress, they spend 4 - $8k a year on a car which ties them down financially, etc.rgambs said:
Where do you live?Go Beavers said:
The government has forced people into cars and the car manufacturers have sold a myth that driving is freedom. Owning a car and driving makes you a slave.Degeneratefk said:
It's not really up to the government to tell me I have to use alternate forms of transportation because some don't like the oil consumption. For many people, driving a car is a necessity. I am fortunate enough to live about 8 Liles from my work. But when I lived 50 miles from my job, a car is necessary.PJ_Soul said:
I mean in a common sense way of course. Obviously food prices should never be artificially increased, as food is a necessity of life. Driving a car isn't. Of course I am open to all common sense. I.e. say increase the gas prices in urban centres but not in rural areas until public transit infrastructure in and between rural areas is built, just as an example (and people can waste their time driving to rural gas stations if they like - some people love spending to save, lol). I'm thinking loooong term here. In decades, not years. High gas prices to dissuade driving is not an uncommon idea. Western Europe already does it. Of course, their infrastructure allows for it better. North America needs to catch up (and allow for the differences in population dispersement). Anyway, yeah, I know that nobody who drives will ever agree with my attitude about this. I don't care, haha, I'm a hardliner on this subject.Degeneratefk said:
So why not artificially raise the prices of hamburger meat so that more people will eat chicken and less red meat?PJ_Soul said:
The ONLY time I do support artificially inflating prices is when it will improve people's behaviour that harms the environment. Anyway, I'm talking about developing public transit that is NOT just in the city (as my next post explained). And I disagree that necessity/unaffordability doesn't motivate change and innovation. However, I wasn't really suggesting that everyone go out and buy an electric car, not that I would discourage it. Since they already exist, I don't see why higher gas prices would affect their production. The only thing that slows the production of electric cars now is the lack of demand and the lack of charging stations.Degeneratefk said:Gern Blansten said:http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306060-former-gop-official-warns-republicans-to-stay-away-from-trump
I keep wanting to give Trump the benefit of the doubt but I'm concerned. I think we are on the verge of a major political disaster.
I'm not in support of artificially inflating the price of anything. It's not going to speed up production of an electric car. Public transit only works for people that live AND work in a city. For most of us that live outside large cities, we need cheap gas prices to, you know, go to work and stuff.PJ_Soul said:
I say the higher gas prices are the better. I actually support artificially high gas prices (well, no, because of where the money goes... but i would if the money went somewhere useful), or a bunch of taxes tacked onto the price. Anything that encourages people to drive less is a-okay in my book. If people could be priced out of the gasoline market and forced to find alternatives, that would be good in the long run IMO. I know most disagree with me, so sorry about my opinion, lol. I realize almost everyone has what they consider great and logical reasons for needing to drive everywhere ... I just think people and their lives have become way too dependent on gasoline. I say tax the living shit out of gasoline and parking and put that money straight into public transit development.rgambs said:
The oil and gas industry has been hurting for a long time now due to low crude and NG prices.PJ_Soul said:
Oil prices are complete bullshit - they mean nothing about anybody besides the fuckers running the oil and gas companies (of course Trump invests in them). Gas prices are a complete scam at all times, whether they're high or low.rgambs said:
That isn't good for jobs though...Jason P said:Gas is $0.40 cheaper then a week ago.
I'm not sad about it.
I'm not in favor of artificially raising the price of any essential goods. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.I think government needs to be more involved in forcing change when it comes to this because people at large never will as long as convenience for themselves is involved. Of course, I don't expect any North American government to give a flying fuck anytime soon... maybe when we're old.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
That certainly doesn't mean that they forced anyone into buying cars. It means they got into business with the right companies at the right time.Go Beavers said:
When cars came on the scene, the government colluded with oil companies and auto manufacturers to focus on building a transportation infrastructure almost solely focused on the car. Our culture shifted to being dependant on the car and now the continuation of this is just normalized. Our cities are designed around the car and it will take a long time to reverse this trend.Degeneratefk said:
It can be said that people are overly dependant on their cell phones or other devices. But that doesn't mean the government forced them into it.Go Beavers said:
I live in Oregon. Im being a bit dramatic by saying slave I suppose. But people are overly dependent on their cars and build their life around needing one in a lot of cases. This is seen when their cars breaks and their life comes to a halt, when they road rage because they've handed over that control to others, they stress, they spend 4 - $8k a year on a car which ties them down financially, etc.rgambs said:
Where do you live?Go Beavers said:
The government has forced people into cars and the car manufacturers have sold a myth that driving is freedom. Owning a car and driving makes you a slave.Degeneratefk said:
It's not really up to the government to tell me I have to use alternate forms of transportation because some don't like the oil consumption. For many people, driving a car is a necessity. I am fortunate enough to live about 8 Liles from my work. But when I lived 50 miles from my job, a car is necessary.PJ_Soul said:
I mean in a common sense way of course. Obviously food prices should never be artificially increased, as food is a necessity of life. Driving a car isn't. Of course I am open to all common sense. I.e. say increase the gas prices in urban centres but not in rural areas until public transit infrastructure in and between rural areas is built, just as an example (and people can waste their time driving to rural gas stations if they like - some people love spending to save, lol). I'm thinking loooong term here. In decades, not years. High gas prices to dissuade driving is not an uncommon idea. Western Europe already does it. Of course, their infrastructure allows for it better. North America needs to catch up (and allow for the differences in population dispersement). Anyway, yeah, I know that nobody who drives will ever agree with my attitude about this. I don't care, haha, I'm a hardliner on this subject.Degeneratefk said:
So why not artificially raise the prices of hamburger meat so that more people will eat chicken and less red meat?PJ_Soul said:
The ONLY time I do support artificially inflating prices is when it will improve people's behaviour that harms the environment. Anyway, I'm talking about developing public transit that is NOT just in the city (as my next post explained). And I disagree that necessity/unaffordability doesn't motivate change and innovation. However, I wasn't really suggesting that everyone go out and buy an electric car, not that I would discourage it. Since they already exist, I don't see why higher gas prices would affect their production. The only thing that slows the production of electric cars now is the lack of demand and the lack of charging stations.Degeneratefk said:Gern Blansten said:http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306060-former-gop-official-warns-republicans-to-stay-away-from-trump
I keep wanting to give Trump the benefit of the doubt but I'm concerned. I think we are on the verge of a major political disaster.
I'm not in support of artificially inflating the price of anything. It's not going to speed up production of an electric car. Public transit only works for people that live AND work in a city. For most of us that live outside large cities, we need cheap gas prices to, you know, go to work and stuff.PJ_Soul said:
I say the higher gas prices are the better. I actually support artificially high gas prices (well, no, because of where the money goes... but i would if the money went somewhere useful), or a bunch of taxes tacked onto the price. Anything that encourages people to drive less is a-okay in my book. If people could be priced out of the gasoline market and forced to find alternatives, that would be good in the long run IMO. I know most disagree with me, so sorry about my opinion, lol. I realize almost everyone has what they consider great and logical reasons for needing to drive everywhere ... I just think people and their lives have become way too dependent on gasoline. I say tax the living shit out of gasoline and parking and put that money straight into public transit development.rgambs said:
The oil and gas industry has been hurting for a long time now due to low crude and NG prices.PJ_Soul said:
Oil prices are complete bullshit - they mean nothing about anybody besides the fuckers running the oil and gas companies (of course Trump invests in them). Gas prices are a complete scam at all times, whether they're high or low.rgambs said:
That isn't good for jobs though...Jason P said:Gas is $0.40 cheaper then a week ago.
I'm not sad about it.
I'm not in favor of artificially raising the price of any essential goods. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.I think government needs to be more involved in forcing change when it comes to this because people at large never will as long as convenience for themselves is involved. Of course, I don't expect any North American government to give a flying fuck anytime soon... maybe when we're old.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
I don't think he's saying that anyone is actually forced into buying cars. Just that the government managed to make people consider them a necessity by design, and basically built society upon that. That is true IMO. And at this point it's just ingrained in the culture, unfortunately. That needs to change. Lifestyles need to change, but that has to be accommodated in several ways. At the moment, this kind of thinking is practically fringe, I know (oh trust me, I know, lol. You should see how some people react to a person who chooses to live car-free... almost with suspicion, lol, as though I pose a threat to their car or somethingDegeneratefk said:
That certainly doesn't mean that they forced anyone into buying cars. It means they got into business with the right companies at the right time.Go Beavers said:
When cars came on the scene, the government colluded with oil companies and auto manufacturers to focus on building a transportation infrastructure almost solely focused on the car. Our culture shifted to being dependant on the car and now the continuation of this is just normalized. Our cities are designed around the car and it will take a long time to reverse this trend.Degeneratefk said:
It can be said that people are overly dependant on their cell phones or other devices. But that doesn't mean the government forced them into it.Go Beavers said:
I live in Oregon. Im being a bit dramatic by saying slave I suppose. But people are overly dependent on their cars and build their life around needing one in a lot of cases. This is seen when their cars breaks and their life comes to a halt, when they road rage because they've handed over that control to others, they stress, they spend 4 - $8k a year on a car which ties them down financially, etc.rgambs said:
Where do you live?Go Beavers said:
The government has forced people into cars and the car manufacturers have sold a myth that driving is freedom. Owning a car and driving makes you a slave.Degeneratefk said:
It's not really up to the government to tell me I have to use alternate forms of transportation because some don't like the oil consumption. For many people, driving a car is a necessity. I am fortunate enough to live about 8 Liles from my work. But when I lived 50 miles from my job, a car is necessary.PJ_Soul said:
I mean in a common sense way of course. Obviously food prices should never be artificially increased, as food is a necessity of life. Driving a car isn't. Of course I am open to all common sense. I.e. say increase the gas prices in urban centres but not in rural areas until public transit infrastructure in and between rural areas is built, just as an example (and people can waste their time driving to rural gas stations if they like - some people love spending to save, lol). I'm thinking loooong term here. In decades, not years. High gas prices to dissuade driving is not an uncommon idea. Western Europe already does it. Of course, their infrastructure allows for it better. North America needs to catch up (and allow for the differences in population dispersement). Anyway, yeah, I know that nobody who drives will ever agree with my attitude about this. I don't care, haha, I'm a hardliner on this subject.Degeneratefk said:
So why not artificially raise the prices of hamburger meat so that more people will eat chicken and less red meat?PJ_Soul said:
The ONLY time I do support artificially inflating prices is when it will improve people's behaviour that harms the environment. Anyway, I'm talking about developing public transit that is NOT just in the city (as my next post explained). And I disagree that necessity/unaffordability doesn't motivate change and innovation. However, I wasn't really suggesting that everyone go out and buy an electric car, not that I would discourage it. Since they already exist, I don't see why higher gas prices would affect their production. The only thing that slows the production of electric cars now is the lack of demand and the lack of charging stations.Degeneratefk said:Gern Blansten said:http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306060-former-gop-official-warns-republicans-to-stay-away-from-trump
I keep wanting to give Trump the benefit of the doubt but I'm concerned. I think we are on the verge of a major political disaster.
I'm not in support of artificially inflating the price of anything. It's not going to speed up production of an electric car. Public transit only works for people that live AND work in a city. For most of us that live outside large cities, we need cheap gas prices to, you know, go to work and stuff.PJ_Soul said:
I say the higher gas prices are the better. I actually support artificially high gas prices (well, no, because of where the money goes... but i would if the money went somewhere useful), or a bunch of taxes tacked onto the price. Anything that encourages people to drive less is a-okay in my book. If people could be priced out of the gasoline market and forced to find alternatives, that would be good in the long run IMO. I know most disagree with me, so sorry about my opinion, lol. I realize almost everyone has what they consider great and logical reasons for needing to drive everywhere ... I just think people and their lives have become way too dependent on gasoline. I say tax the living shit out of gasoline and parking and put that money straight into public transit development.rgambs said:
The oil and gas industry has been hurting for a long time now due to low crude and NG prices.PJ_Soul said:
Oil prices are complete bullshit - they mean nothing about anybody besides the fuckers running the oil and gas companies (of course Trump invests in them). Gas prices are a complete scam at all times, whether they're high or low.rgambs said:
That isn't good for jobs though...Jason P said:Gas is $0.40 cheaper then a week ago.
I'm not sad about it.
I'm not in favor of artificially raising the price of any essential goods. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that point.I think government needs to be more involved in forcing change when it comes to this because people at large never will as long as convenience for themselves is involved. Of course, I don't expect any North American government to give a flying fuck anytime soon... maybe when we're old.
). I would like to see it become mainstream within the next 20 years though. I think it will in many places. The first steps are already happening in a lot of areas/regions/countries with more environmentally focused leadership. But more rural and suburban areas need to be brought on board and included in mass transit and charging stations have to become widespread before the movement really takes off.
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I think its probably my fault that my place of employment cannot be reached by horseback in a timely manner from my house but thats just me.
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Lol, no, and god forbid we subject horses to that life again! I don't think it's any private citizen's fault - the fact that there isn't any public transit option from the outskirts to the cities, and that electric cars aren't affordable, and that there aren't charging stations isn't the fault of you or anyone. If you want it to be your fault, you could certainly make it be your fault... You could say that it's your fault that you didn't either find a home closer to work, or find work closer to home.... we could drill down into all the factors that impacted those ultimate decisions if you like, lol. But that would obviously be pointless and unrealistic, just like some of your alternative options were to you. I personally don't make this an accusation. I live in this society too. I understand the perceived need for cars (although I do think that many don't do everything they CAN reasonably do - i.e. carpooling/car sharing, shit like that) ... Many car owners do perceive it as an accusation though. I can do and say nothing other than "I live car-free" or "I don't need a car", and some car owners get defensive. It's kind of funny. I assume that guilt talking (I am not referring to you at all cp3iverson!). The only once I accuse are government, oil companies, and all the bullshit that goes on between and because of those two groups (yes, including car companies, certain other resource/manufacturing industries, etc. So basically any special interest group/corporation that relies on people continuing to drive).cp3iverson said:I think its probably my fault that my place of employment cannot be reached by horseback in a timely manner from my house but thats just me.
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And others have alternatives that they don't use, and others would use alternatives if they had them.cp3iverson said:I think its probably my fault that my place of employment cannot be reached by horseback in a timely manner from my house but thats just me.
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Everyone I know has alternatives that they don't use.Go Beavers said:
And others have alternatives that they don't use, and others would use alternatives if they had them.cp3iverson said:I think its probably my fault that my place of employment cannot be reached by horseback in a timely manner from my house but thats just me.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
it's obviously impossible to reason with a Trump supporter. They will get so offended when you suggest the whole premise of his candidacy was based on not so subtle racist overtones which started with the birther movement.josevolution said:
He will be my Bafoon till his out of office , do you not remember how Obama was disrespected for 8 fucking yrs by his opposition starting with Bafoon who still ? His birthplace ! So I'll just keep on calling him babafoon sounds even better ...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He`s not a buffoon!josevolution said:
I dare you to give me one good quality the head Bafoon brings to the WH , go ahead find it and post it !BS44325 said:
He drives everybody on here nuts.josevolution said:Please can someone post the good quality's Bannon brings to the WH .. please just one I dare anybody to find one !
He`s your President-elect!
So if you voted for the guy you might not be a racist-pussy-grabber, but the fact that you certainly don't seem to mind that your President is really fucking bothers me. It's not about morality. It's about ENTITLEMENT. Trump is incredibly entitled. He's entitled to molest women because he's a rich celebrity. He's entitled to lie because he's a great negotiator. Fuck that guyPost edited by vaggar99 on0 -
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Your democratic election process voted and President-elect Trump won.0 -
haha..thanks...humor is definitely needed. i got it, election is over and America will be great again...fuckPJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Your democratic election process voted and President-elect Trump won.0 -
In 2018 when blue takes over the senate.vaggar99 said:
haha..thanks...humor is definitely needed. i got it, election is over and America will be great again...fuckPJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Your democratic election process voted and President-elect Trump won.
http://pagesix.com/2016/11/14/emmy-rossum-targeted-by-anti-semitic-trump-supporters/
You Trump supporters are the company you keep. Own your shame.
Just be lucky they're not attacking my actress crush, Rachel McAdams, because she's in mostly anti Trump Canada and progressive or some Trumpkins are getting a big dental bill from me.0 -
What happened to your teeth?InHiding80 said:
In 2018 when blue takes over the senate.vaggar99 said:
haha..thanks...humor is definitely needed. i got it, election is over and America will be great again...fuckPJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
Your democratic election process voted and President-elect Trump won.
http://pagesix.com/2016/11/14/emmy-rossum-targeted-by-anti-semitic-trump-supporters/
You Trump supporters are the company you keep. Own your shame.
Just be lucky they're not attacking my actress crush, Rachel McAdams, because she's in mostly anti Trump Canada and progressive or some Trumpkins are getting a big dental bill from me.0 -
You forgot billionaire pedophile and pizzagatePJfanwillneverleave1 said:This article is interesting http://www.msn.com/en-ca/lifestyle/whats-hot/most-searched-words-since-donald-trump-was-elected/ar-AAkhiil?ocid=spartandhp
Top list of words searched since election.
fascism
bigot
xenophobe
racism
socialism
resurgence
xenophobia
misogyny0 -
Manhattan Buildings to Drop 'Trump' Name After Petition by Residents.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manhattan-buildings-remove-trump-name-after-petition-residents-n6844460 -
Imagine that.Bentleyspop said:Manhattan Buildings to Drop 'Trump' Name After Petition by Residents.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manhattan-buildings-remove-trump-name-after-petition-residents-n684446
Living in a building under the name of Trump no longer provides you security.
I wonder how they voted?
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As if I need another reason to hate Trump, he made me agree with Glenn Beck on something. Thanks a lot, dictator. I feel ashamed and Beck is right. Bannon has no place in the White House.0
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