Trump

chadwick

now we wait to see trump's great wall of america erected. i am willing to bet $$$ that there will not ever be a wall. i would be thoroughly shocked if a wall ever went up. it's just not going to happen. it's as if trump wants to go down in history as emperor trump. the trump dynasty begins the erecting of a wall to keep out the barbarians, yes/no?

tbergs

vaggar99 said:

chadwick said:

neither trump nor clinton are innocent. they are both bullshit artists. clinton is not going to jail. to believe trump is not full of shit is insanely naive

true. This election was really no different than any other in terms of 'you got to pick the lesser of two evils'. Still surprises me how the pussy grabbing didn't 'Trump' all the emails etc.

That said. Voting for him never felt like picking the lesser of two evils. He was my type of person. You can call him an elitist snob. Whatever...The guy had soul. He had ideas. He had wisdom. He had a conscience.

You're going to get some opposition to a few of the statements; soul and conscience. He had neither of those qualities. But he's full of ideas and has wisdom on certain topics.

JC29856

chadwick said:

now we wait to see trump's great wall of america erected. i am willing to bet $$$ that there will not ever be a wall. i would be thoroughly shocked if a wall ever went up. it's just not going to happen. it's as if trump wants to go down in history as emperor trump. the trump dynasty begins the erecting of a wall to keep out the barbarians, yes/no?

Ironic that republicans took take so much pride in tearing down that wall 30 years ago now are eager to build one at our south border

chadwick

soul & conscience... he sleeps at night like a baby when after all he is a ruthless businessman. i highly doubt he has a conscience. full of ideas, good ideas or bad ideas, he has ideas. he has some wisdom sure.

vaggar99

tbergs said:

vaggar99 said:

chadwick said:

neither trump nor clinton are innocent. they are both bullshit artists. clinton is not going to jail. to believe trump is not full of shit is insanely naive

true. This election was really no different than any other in terms of 'you got to pick the lesser of two evils'. Still surprises me how the pussy grabbing didn't 'Trump' all the emails etc.

That said. Voting for him never felt like picking the lesser of two evils. He was my type of person. You can call him an elitist snob. Whatever...The guy had soul. He had ideas. He had wisdom. He had a conscience.

You're going to get some opposition to a few of the statements; soul and conscience. He had neither of those qualities. But he's full of ideas and has wisdom on certain topics.

funny, cuz i thought the pushback would be for the ideas and wisdom. You can't deny the soul. The man could dance, sing and could speak in some kind quatrain like cadence. Conscience is perhaps a little more subjective.

At the end of it, I think he was a deeply human person with some un-human like qualities. That's some of the appeal I see in PJ. This band is so outrageously awesome, yet they are constantly fucking up on stage. It's kind of crazy sometimes. You see so many lesser bands that can deliver note perfect shows, but they are kind of boring. Not PJ. Not Obama

tbergs

vaggar99 said:

tbergs said:

vaggar99 said:

chadwick said:

neither trump nor clinton are innocent. they are both bullshit artists. clinton is not going to jail. to believe trump is not full of shit is insanely naive

true. This election was really no different than any other in terms of 'you got to pick the lesser of two evils'. Still surprises me how the pussy grabbing didn't 'Trump' all the emails etc.

That said. Voting for him never felt like picking the lesser of two evils. He was my type of person. You can call him an elitist snob. Whatever...The guy had soul. He had ideas. He had wisdom. He had a conscience.

You're going to get some opposition to a few of the statements; soul and conscience. He had neither of those qualities. But he's full of ideas and has wisdom on certain topics.

funny, cuz i thought the pushback would be for the ideas and wisdom. You can't deny the soul. The man could dance, sing and could speak in some kind quatrain like cadence. Conscience is perhaps a little more subjective.

At the end of it, I think he was a deeply human person with some un-human like qualities. That's some of the appeal I see in PJ. This band is so outrageously awesome, yet they are constantly fucking up on stage. It's kind of crazy sometimes. You see so many lesser bands that can deliver note perfect shows, but they are kind of boring. Not PJ. Not Obama

I go back and forth on the soul piece. You make a good point. I think I'm relating it more to does he have a soul and that's what's tripping me up.

tbergs

JC29856 said:

chadwick said:

now we wait to see trump's great wall of america erected. i am willing to bet $$$ that there will not ever be a wall. i would be thoroughly shocked if a wall ever went up. it's just not going to happen. it's as if trump wants to go down in history as emperor trump. the trump dynasty begins the erecting of a wall to keep out the barbarians, yes/no?

Ironic that republicans took take so much pride in tearing down that wall 30 years ago now are eager to build one at our south border

Yeah, hard to believe we want to follow that old ideal. Frickin' wall. Will there be guard towers so they can shoot those attempting to come in illegally?

All I can think of is the Shawshank Redemption and Escape From Alcatraz, but now people will be trying to get in.

Gern Blansten

http://thehill.com/media/305826-trump-offered-kelly-gifts-hotel-stays-while-a-candidate

Fox News host Megyn Kelly says Donald Trump unsuccessfully tried to give her gifts during the presidential campaign in what she called his attempt to influence journalists by "[working] the refs."

PJPOWER

Gern Blansten said:

http://thehill.com/media/305826-trump-offered-kelly-gifts-hotel-stays-while-a-candidate

Fox News host Megyn Kelly says Donald Trump unsuccessfully tried to give her gifts during the presidential campaign in what she called his attempt to influence journalists by "[working] the refs."

Lol, stop watching Faux News!
Hillary just gave her journalists a paycheck.

chadwick

guard towers every 1/4 mile - 1/2 mile. an entire military stationed at the wall. it'll be go time. locked & loaded.

release the hounds

vaggar99

tbergs said:

JC29856 said:

chadwick said:

now we wait to see trump's great wall of america erected. i am willing to bet $$$ that there will not ever be a wall. i would be thoroughly shocked if a wall ever went up. it's just not going to happen. it's as if trump wants to go down in history as emperor trump. the trump dynasty begins the erecting of a wall to keep out the barbarians, yes/no?

Ironic that republicans took take so much pride in tearing down that wall 30 years ago now are eager to build one at our south border

Yeah, hard to believe we want to follow that old ideal. Frickin' wall. Will there be guard towers so they can shoot those attempting to come in illegally?

All I can think of is the Shawshank Redemption and Escape From Alcatraz, but now people will be trying to get in.

Come one, come all! And, fuck the Wall!!

tbergs

vaggar99 said:

tbergs said:

JC29856 said:

chadwick said:

now we wait to see trump's great wall of america erected. i am willing to bet $$$ that there will not ever be a wall. i would be thoroughly shocked if a wall ever went up. it's just not going to happen. it's as if trump wants to go down in history as emperor trump. the trump dynasty begins the erecting of a wall to keep out the barbarians, yes/no?

Ironic that republicans took take so much pride in tearing down that wall 30 years ago now are eager to build one at our south border

Yeah, hard to believe we want to follow that old ideal. Frickin' wall. Will there be guard towers so they can shoot those attempting to come in illegally?

All I can think of is the Shawshank Redemption and Escape From Alcatraz, but now people will be trying to get in.

Come one, come all! And, fuck the Wall!!

Where will Castle Black be? Will a bastard be a lord commander? We could have all the banished sex offenders and felons man it too!

muskydan

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

Holy shit you guys....I understand the electoral college. My point is you can't say that more people wanted Trump when he LOST THE POPULAR VOTE.

That's a simple thing to understand.

No, you can just say that people in more states wanted Trump. Do you really want people in the largest cities determining how the whole country is run? Agriculture would go to shit. Starting to sound a little hunger gamish.

And AGAIN....you must have a thick skull....that has nothing to do with Clinton winning the popular vote. I'm not saying to do away with the electoral college....I'm saying you CAN'T say that more people wanted Trump. They didn't. By 700,000 or so. That's a lot of people.

What you are really saying is you are a sore LOSER......Ha ha ha ha ha
Perhaps a visit to a safe place might be helpful

vaggar99

vaggar99 said:

chadwick said:

neither trump nor clinton are innocent. they are both bullshit artists. clinton is not going to jail. to believe trump is not full of shit is insanely naive

true. This election was really no different than any other in terms of 'you got to pick the lesser of two evils'. Still surprises me how the pussy grabbing didn't 'Trump' all the emails etc.

That said. Voting for Obama never felt like picking the lesser of two evils. He was my type of person. You can call him an elitist snob. Whatever...The guy had soul. He had ideas. He had wisdom. He had a conscience.

Gern Blansten

muskydan said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

Holy shit you guys....I understand the electoral college. My point is you can't say that more people wanted Trump when he LOST THE POPULAR VOTE.

That's a simple thing to understand.

No, you can just say that people in more states wanted Trump. Do you really want people in the largest cities determining how the whole country is run? Agriculture would go to shit. Starting to sound a little hunger gamish.

And AGAIN....you must have a thick skull....that has nothing to do with Clinton winning the popular vote. I'm not saying to do away with the electoral college....I'm saying you CAN'T say that more people wanted Trump. They didn't. By 700,000 or so. That's a lot of people.

What you are really saying is you are a sore LOSER......Ha ha ha ha ha
Perhaps a visit to a safe place might be helpful

Not really....just irritated at the ignorance shown by some of you

muskydan

chadwick said:

now we wait to see trump's great wall of america erected. i am willing to bet $$$ that there will not ever be a wall. i would be thoroughly shocked if a wall ever went up. it's just not going to happen. it's as if trump wants to go down in history as emperor trump. the trump dynasty begins the erecting of a wall to keep out the barbarians, yes/no?

Now we are talking. I will take that bet. How much $ are you willing to LOSE?

vaggar99

Gern Blansten said:

muskydan said:

Gern Blansten said:

PJPOWER said:

Gern Blansten said:

Holy shit you guys....I understand the electoral college. My point is you can't say that more people wanted Trump when he LOST THE POPULAR VOTE.

That's a simple thing to understand.

No, you can just say that people in more states wanted Trump. Do you really want people in the largest cities determining how the whole country is run? Agriculture would go to shit. Starting to sound a little hunger gamish.

And AGAIN....you must have a thick skull....that has nothing to do with Clinton winning the popular vote. I'm not saying to do away with the electoral college....I'm saying you CAN'T say that more people wanted Trump. They didn't. By 700,000 or so. That's a lot of people.

What you are really saying is you are a sore LOSER......Ha ha ha ha ha
Perhaps a visit to a safe place might be helpful

Not really....just irritated at the ignorance shown by some of you

i've really been struggling with the ignorance thing. It probably goes beyond that. Few people you meet in this world are ignorant or even uneducated. Yes, there are those who stand out as true idiots. But, they are still likely in the minority of Trump supporters. There are probably just as many on the left who would fall into the idiot category.

It's really about ideology more than anything. So, this is where things get complicated. Now you are having to look your relatives, friends, neighbor, coworkers in the face every day knowing they voted for a man you absolutely do not want representing you. Try to get an answer about all the nasty remarks and pussy grabbing, most Trump supporters will shrug. Why? Not because they agree with it, but there was an ideology in his words that got through and will not leave. This is probably similar to what happens in churches, mosques, temples etc. all day long.

It's cool to be pissed. I am with you. But, we 'liberals' got to get smart too.

Gern Blansten

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13623946/trump-electoral-college-votes

This is funny...four years ago Trump was going off on the electoral college because he was too stupid to realize the final vote count wasn't in yet.

Obama beat Romney by a few million votes.

chadwick

we're talking a wall not a fence. a wall across the entire length of the border. you should think about what it would take to erect this wall. countless onsite concrete plants scattered across the length of the border, quarries up the ass, hundreds of dump trucks, cement trucks & heavy equipment. some 17,000 - 34,500 laborers working shifts around the clock & in 109 degree temperatures engineers will be grabbing one another by the crotch. mexico will be paying for it all. i guarantee it... i guarantee it

JC29856

Gern Blansten said:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13623946/trump-electoral-college-votes

This is funny...four years ago Trump was going off on the electoral college because he was too stupid to realize the final vote count wasn't in yet.

Obama beat Romney by a few million votes.

Is the final vote count in yet for 2016 presidential race? Aren't you doing the same stupid popular vote thing?