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CM189191

CM189191 said:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WOMAN WHO SUED DONALD TRUMP FOR CHILD RAPE WILL APPEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME AND SPEAK OUT WITH HER NEW ATTORNEY LISA BLOOM TODAY


More than four months ago a woman using the pseudonym “Jane Doe” sued Donald Trump for a series of sexual assaults that she alleges occurred at parties in New York in 1994. Jane Doe was just thirteen years old at the time. Her operative amended federal court complaint is available here.

The mainstream media has failed to cover the story, though Lisa Bloom posted an article in June 2016 entitled “Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored” which has received over one million social media “likes.”

Jane Doe will break her silence today and speak out about her allegations at the following place and time.

The Bloom Firm
20700 Ventura Blvd., Suite 301
Woodland Hills, CA 91364
3pm Pacific Time
November 2, 2016


Contact:
Lisa Bloom’s assistant Marcelino Valencap
(818) 914-7343
Marcelino@TheBloomFirm.com

BS44325

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

Go Beavers

CM189191 said:

CM189191 said:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WOMAN WHO SUED DONALD TRUMP FOR CHILD RAPE WILL APPEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME AND SPEAK OUT WITH HER NEW ATTORNEY LISA BLOOM TODAY


More than four months ago a woman using the pseudonym “Jane Doe” sued Donald Trump for a series of sexual assaults that she alleges occurred at parties in New York in 1994. Jane Doe was just thirteen years old at the time. Her operative amended federal court complaint is available here.

The mainstream media has failed to cover the story, though Lisa Bloom posted an article in June 2016 entitled “Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored” which has received over one million social media “likes.”

Jane Doe will break her silence today and speak out about her allegations at the following place and time.

The Bloom Firm
20700 Ventura Blvd., Suite 301
Woodland Hills, CA 91364
3pm Pacific Time
November 2, 2016


Contact:
Lisa Bloom’s assistant Marcelino Valencap
(818) 914-7343
Marcelino@TheBloomFirm.com

Trump was ahead in Ohio 46-41.

CM189191

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

Maybe he wouldn't be in a position to denounce their acts if he wasn't prodding them in the first place:
"I'll beat the crap out of you."
"Part of the problem ... is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore."
"The audience hit back. That's what we need a little bit more of."
"In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."
"Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"Knock the crap out of them."
"Maybe he should have been roughed up."
"I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will."
quotes from Trump all prior to March '16

Heeeeeyyyy - remember that time Hillary sent a duck?

BS44325

CM189191 said:

CM189191 said:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

WOMAN WHO SUED DONALD TRUMP FOR CHILD RAPE WILL APPEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME AND SPEAK OUT WITH HER NEW ATTORNEY LISA BLOOM TODAY


More than four months ago a woman using the pseudonym “Jane Doe” sued Donald Trump for a series of sexual assaults that she alleges occurred at parties in New York in 1994. Jane Doe was just thirteen years old at the time. Her operative amended federal court complaint is available here.

The mainstream media has failed to cover the story, though Lisa Bloom posted an article in June 2016 entitled “Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored” which has received over one million social media “likes.”

Jane Doe will break her silence today and speak out about her allegations at the following place and time.

The Bloom Firm
20700 Ventura Blvd., Suite 301
Woodland Hills, CA 91364
3pm Pacific Time
November 2, 2016


Contact:
Lisa Bloom’s assistant Marcelino Valencap
(818) 914-7343
Marcelino@TheBloomFirm.com

CM189191 said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

Maybe he wouldn't be in a position to denounce their acts if he wasn't prodding them in the first place:
"I'll beat the crap out of you."
"Part of the problem ... is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore."
"The audience hit back. That's what we need a little bit more of."
"In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."
"Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"Knock the crap out of them."
"Maybe he should have been roughed up."
"I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will."
quotes from Trump all prior to March '16

Heeeeeyyyy - remember that time Hillary sent a duck?

Wait...so it isn't ridiculous now? Man this is getting confusing.

HughFreakingDillon

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

it goes both ways. I don't expect trump or hillary to have to denounce every stupid action of a fraction of their supporters. not sure why anyone would think anyone should have to.

HughFreakingDillon

CM189191 said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

Maybe he wouldn't be in a position to denounce their acts if he wasn't prodding them in the first place:
"I'll beat the crap out of you."
"Part of the problem ... is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore."
"The audience hit back. That's what we need a little bit more of."
"In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."
"Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."
"I'd like to punch him in the face."
"Knock the crap out of them."
"Maybe he should have been roughed up."
"I don’t know if I’ll do the fighting myself or if other people will."
quotes from Trump all prior to March '16

Heeeeeyyyy - remember that time Hillary sent a duck?

HAHAHA. now that was funny.

dignin

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

it goes both ways. I don't expect trump or hillary to have to denounce every stupid action of a fraction of their supporters. not sure why anyone would think anyone should have to.

I don't know if you understand the full context here. It was BS raging and ranting about how Hillary wasn't doing enough to condemn the firebombing of the DNC office last month.

BS is again living up to his handle.

BS44325

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

it goes both ways. I don't expect trump or hillary to have to denounce every stupid action of a fraction of their supporters. not sure why anyone would think anyone should have to.

I don't know if you understand the full context here. It was BS raging and ranting about how Hillary wasn't doing enough to condemn the firebombing of the DNC office last month.

BS is again living up to his handle.

Oh he gets it. The "raging and ranting" was an illustration of the ridiculousness of it all. I win.

ledvedderman

Why do I keep seeing, "I win" on all sorts of posts? Did my eight year old join the message board or something?

dignin

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

it goes both ways. I don't expect trump or hillary to have to denounce every stupid action of a fraction of their supporters. not sure why anyone would think anyone should have to.

I don't know if you understand the full context here. It was BS raging and ranting about how Hillary wasn't doing enough to condemn the firebombing of the DNC office last month.

BS is again living up to his handle.

Oh he gets it. The "raging and ranting" was an illustration of the ridiculousness of it all. I win.

Haha, nice try at a backtrack. You were challenged by many posters and it was all very clear at the time you meant every word. I don't remember the part of the conversation where you said "Got you guys! I was just trying to prove a point!"

I said it then, and I will say it now, it's OK to admit when you're wrong. We are a forgiving bunch.

Since you win, I will give you a special trophy. You're welcome.

pjalive21

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

CM189191

pjalive21 said:

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

I just don't follow the logic of "I'm gonna vote for the screwball, and count on the other 2 branches to not let him get too out of line"

What indication is there that Trump intends to let anyone keep him in check?

pjalive21

CM189191 said:

pjalive21 said:

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

I just don't follow the logic of "I'm gonna vote for the screwball, and count on the other 2 branches to not let him get too out of line"

What indication is there that Trump intends to let anyone keep him in check?

Because he isnt a dictator....they can and will keep him in check...Just like i hope they would with Clinton, depending upon how many deals and dirt she has on people (all speculation of course)

josevolution

pjalive21 said:

CM189191 said:

pjalive21 said:

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

I just don't follow the logic of "I'm gonna vote for the screwball, and count on the other 2 branches to not let him get too out of line"

What indication is there that Trump intends to let anyone keep him in check?

Because he isnt a dictator....they can and will keep him in check...Just like i hope they would with Clinton, depending upon how many deals and dirt she has on people (all speculation of course)

He sure talks like a dictator remember when he stated early on the campaign " I'm the only one that can fix this country " not exactly those words but you get the gist of it ...

HughFreakingDillon

pjalive21 said:

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

I think the effort would be best spent voting 3rd party rather than not voting at all. if the other parties can show some type of improvement in support, maybe they can get moving with more funding and a bigger voice in the coming years.

Go Beavers

pjalive21 said:

CM189191 said:

pjalive21 said:

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

I just don't follow the logic of "I'm gonna vote for the screwball, and count on the other 2 branches to not let him get too out of line"

What indication is there that Trump intends to let anyone keep him in check?

Because he isnt a dictator....they can and will keep him in check...Just like i hope they would with Clinton, depending upon how many deals and dirt she has on people (all speculation of course)

But a lot of the same people who are claiming Obama is a disaster are saying that Trump will be kept in check. Where are these mystical forces going to come from that haven't been here for the last eight years?

BS44325

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

BS44325 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

CM189191 said:

Well, it's not exactly what you would call "party headquarters"
A Black Church Burned in the Name of Trump
...how deplorable....

Waiting for BS to come on here pissed off that Trump isn't condemning this act enough.

If he doesn't tweet condemning an act its like he never condemned it...Making it official on Twitter is just like a updating your relationship status on Facebook its not true unless you post it!

and here we go digging up one act, like one voter fraud incident to label all Trump supporters racist

I don't agree with it either. But the right kept harping on those "hillary supporters" that bombed that political office, like that's what all of hillary's supporters do. it's ridiculous. I don't know why people keep this stuff going.

Of course it's ridiculous. That was my whole point....to illustrate how silly it sounds when a Republican candidate must always repudiate the words and/or actions of it's most extremist supporter. That is how you triple stamp a double stamp.

it goes both ways. I don't expect trump or hillary to have to denounce every stupid action of a fraction of their supporters. not sure why anyone would think anyone should have to.

I don't know if you understand the full context here. It was BS raging and ranting about how Hillary wasn't doing enough to condemn the firebombing of the DNC office last month.

BS is again living up to his handle.

Oh he gets it. The "raging and ranting" was an illustration of the ridiculousness of it all. I win.

Haha, nice try at a backtrack. You were challenged by many posters and it was all very clear at the time you meant every word. I don't remember the part of the conversation where you said "Got you guys! I was just trying to prove a point!"

I said it then, and I will say it now, it's OK to admit when you're wrong. We are a forgiving bunch.

Since you win, I will give you a special trophy. You're welcome.

Nope. You're wrong. I am very deliberate in what I write here. You see when I posted those comments it was with the full knowledge that at some point some idiot Trump supporter would commit a similar sort of act. It was premptive commentary so that I wouldn't have to listen to any of the "Trump's rhetoric is responsible for this violence!" nonsense that happens everytime somebody on the right does something stupid. No candidate is responsible for the actions of their most extreme supporter. Glad we all agree. Thank you for the trophy. I shall put it on my mantle next to all my other rhetorical victory awards. I have to admit the shelf is getting kinda full.

BS44325

CM189191 said:

pjalive21 said:

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

I just don't follow the logic of "I'm gonna vote for the screwball, and count on the other 2 branches to not let him get too out of line"

What indication is there that Trump intends to let anyone keep him in check?

It's perfect logic.

BS44325

josevolution said:

pjalive21 said:

CM189191 said:

pjalive21 said:

benjs said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjalive21 said:

pjhawks said:

Gern Blansten said:

pjhawks said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

dignin said:

pjalive21 said:

Gern Blansten said:

so liberal newspapers (which are dying off by the day) support HRC..well stop the press!!! (see what i did there)...i dont see much difference between the hate of the KKK and the extreme left of most newspapers supporting whatever side they choose

side note: The St. Louis PD is complete garbage and the National Inquirer has more credibility than that rag...sorry had to take a shot at my hometown paper

Well this says a lot about why you can support Trump.

I dont support either candidate...and the vile stuff that comes from the extreme left is the same hate that comes the hatred of the KKK

@Gern Blansten you are right about some of the conservative newspapers, but it doesnt matter wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to the media

You have stated in 2 polls here that you are voting for Trump. That makes you a supporter.

Look at the papers on that list, hardly extreme left and some lean right, never having endorsed a democrat. You can't just explain that away.

I will never in my life vote for HRC and the 3rd party candidates are more incompetent than Trump, ala Johnson, and Jill Stein doesn't have a chance and her VP pick is too radical for my taste....so there you have it if i decide to vote and that's up in the air till this weekend it would be Trump and just like a lot of people it would be a vote against Clinton (just like many that are voting for HRC are doing to Trump)

so does this mean you rate lying and cheating as worse personal issues than sexual assault and fraud at least when discussing politics?

Don't forget the supreme court issue...I mean if a conservative court is your thing then own your Trump vote.

i agree with that but that is not a sentiment that was presented. he said he would never vote for Hillary and if was going to vote would vote for Trump. He presented a case for not voting for Hillary so I can only assume he finds the personal and/or political issues with Hillary far worse than sexual assault and fraud.

or maybe all this "change" people grasp onto isn't someone who has been involved in politics for 30 years and is corrupt....i understood the Obama vote, i respected it, this guy sold everyone on real change then people want to follow him up with Clinton?? Someone who behind closed doors has told people one thing and then out in public says another, who on record has insulted minorities while calling out Trump, taken money from wall st, and put the countries national security at risk with her servers

Abedin, Weiner, Podesta, her Foundation and Qatar, Wikileaks...its all there

look no further than what JC has laid out there for everyone to see

You don't think Trump is corrupt? Are you ignoring the Trump U issues? The non payment of vendors? He is getting flack now for not paying his pollsters about $700K.

Throw in the comments about bombing the shit out of everyone and damn....how do you say that is better than someone who mishandled some meaningless emails?

He has issues too....i think many of us, including myself has stated this is what America has laid forth for us to choose from

it is the lesser of two evils...that term actually fits this election...as I have stated before I was a Rand Paul supporter and how a guy like that or Kasich got beat by Trump is beyond my way of thinking....I think someone stated because of low educated voters? maybe...or just plain old disenfranchisement and making a mockery of our system...we will never know the answer i guess

I feel like if i don't vote then I have no reason to complain...that's a personal feeling of mine so in those two choices i choose Trump,,,i stated my 3rd party opinion above on why I wont vote that way

pjalive, I have an honest question - if you are voting Trump as a protest vote to send a message that Clinton is not fit for office, and you acknowledge that Trump is not fit for office (by referring to him as an evil), why not submit a vote to abstain? This way, your vote would be on record as suggesting there is no candidate nor party you identify with. It also (at least in my eyes) leaves you in a position where you shouldn't feel guilty for complaining.

benj I appreciate this response..... I mentioned in another forum on the AMT that im giving myself till Sunday to make a firm decision on whom I'm voting for...I believe voting is important and if I don't vote i feel like im doing an injustice for the country, but you have a good point it's my right not to vote if I don't believe there is a viable candidate that I can get behind and that can win.Only problem is that I really don't want HRC as president and it would be a vote against her. What gives me a glimmer of hope if Trump is president is that both sides of the aisle will keep him in check, whereas with Clinton I believe no one would be above her (obviously that's my own opinion, but she has a lot of influence and power already) If she does become president then so be it I will live with it and continue moving forward and wish the best for the country and the world.

I just don't follow the logic of "I'm gonna vote for the screwball, and count on the other 2 branches to not let him get too out of line"

What indication is there that Trump intends to let anyone keep him in check?

Because he isnt a dictator....they can and will keep him in check...Just like i hope they would with Clinton, depending upon how many deals and dirt she has on people (all speculation of course)

He sure talks like a dictator remember when he stated early on the campaign " I'm the only one that can fix this country " not exactly those words but you get the gist of it ...

That's not "dictator" talk that's "I'm the only one that's not owned by any special interest" talk. He doesn't owe anybody in either party anything, he doesn't owe any lobbyists anything, he has barely raised money from big corporations. This is the independent candidate people who don't want money in politics have been begging for. This means he can make real non-ideological attempts at fixing things based on advice and logic. He could fail but he wouldn't be making decisions for people he owes favours to.