Trump

oftenreading

eddiec said:

JC29856 said:

Hmmm.... gloria alldred says I'll do anything to see to it that Trump doesn't become potus

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20593

Actually, she says 'why we as women must do everything we can to ensure a Democrat remains in the White House for the next four years.'

This was in regards to 'Donald Trump has pledged to reverse the vast amounts of great progress we have made over the years. His stance on issues such as equal pay and abortion would reverse this progress and negatively impact millions of women across the country – and that is unacceptable.'

Yes, eddiec's reading of it is correct, though it doesn't appear it was Allred's text to begin with, just something drafted for her that they then tweaked back and forth, as one does with these sorts of documents. JC, are you even reading what you're posting?

oftenreading

A third party confirms that Stoynoff reported Trump's assault on her to him at the time.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/journalism-professor-confirms-people-writer-accusations-against-trump_us_58024579e4b0162c043c4d0a?ir=Canada&utm_hp_ref=canada

unsung

eddiec said:

JC29856 said:

Hmmm.... gloria alldred says I'll do anything to see to it that Trump doesn't become potus

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20593

Actually, she says 'why we as women must do everything we can to ensure a Democrat remains in the White House for the next four years.'

This was in regards to 'Donald Trump has pledged to reverse the vast amounts of great progress we have made over the years. His stance on issues such as equal pay and abortion would reverse this progress and negatively impact millions of women across the country – and that is unacceptable.'

Didn't Hillary get exposed for unequal pay of her staffers?

unsung

yep

josevolution

WSJ poll today has him 11 points down, and all he talks about is Rigged election no policies at his rallies talk about ADD instead of staying on message about HC policy..this campaign & candidate will go down as one of the most uninformed , disorganized in the history of this country..it's a damn shame that no balls Paul Ryan has not come out publicly and denounce Trumps Rigged election rhetoric!!

oftenreading

And this one's just kind of funny.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/15/tell-america-its-great_n_12504094.html?utm_hp_ref=canada

Yes, America, there's much more to you than Trump.

oftenreading

There are endless amusing articles that one can find on the topic of Trump. This one deals with how the Republicans can successfully distance themselves from Trump.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/a-few-tips-for-republicans-trying-to-disavow-themselves-of-donald-trump/article32362969/


TABATHA SOUTHEY
A few tips for Republicans trying to disavow themselves of Donald Trump

Tabatha Southey

Special to The Globe and Mail

Published Friday, Oct. 14, 2016 12:18PM EDT

Last updated Friday, Oct. 14, 2016 3:46PM EDT

Allegations that he is a serial sex offender are piling up against Donald Trump. He finally has an actual breathtaking skyline-darkening tower with his name on it.

This might be less of a concern for his party were these allegations not piling up upon an actual taped admission, gleefully given by Mr. Trump, that he is in fact a serial sex offender.

What’s a party to do with that? Where do you go? Is it as simple as blithely changing one’s campaign slogan to “Hey, America, Donald Trump really wants to take you furniture shopping”?

It’s been interesting to watch the American right – those willing to admit that Mr. Trump’s run for president poses a problem for every reasonable, compassionate, informed person on the planet, and we think possibly some dolphins – grapple with their current situation.

On the one hand, there have been what would be touching displays of loyalty, were they directed toward someone who’d never advocated banning all Muslims from entering his country and who had never been recorded staking a sexual claim on an elementary schoolgirl. On the other hand there have been vicious and very public attacks within the ranks.

Read more: Michelle Obama says she's 'shaken' by Trump's sexual-assault comments

Read more: The Republican stalwarts who can't vote for Trump and why

Zosia Belski: Trump's 'locker room' line prompts crucial moment for male bystanders

I will admit I have been enjoying the Republican Party’s amateur stage production of the film Heathers, and yet there are moments in these turbulent days when I catch myself feeling a knee-jerk sympathy for Republicans. Watching many of them hopelessly trying to avoid being associated with almost everything Donald Trump has ever said or done without actually suggesting their candidate shouldn’t be president of the United States is like a watching a turtle lying on its back, waving its little legs in the air.

Sure, it’s a snapping turtle and it tried to bite your finger off, and it has made it clear, in its own snapping-turtley way, that, were it in charge of such matters, it would radically curtail your reproductive freedom. But, come on, look at the little guy, rocking back and forth; how can you not want to flip him back over again?

And so, in the spirit of “even cold-blooded reptiles don’t deserve to be left lying in the middle of the freeway,” I’d like to offer the American right some guidance. Let me start by saying that the problem is primarily psychological: It’s all inside your head; that much is plain to see. The answer is easy if you take it logically. I’d like to help you in your struggle to be free. There must be 50 ways to run for cover.

I’ll be begin by addressing some common pitfalls that many beginner disavowers are falling into but which can be avoided with a few simple steps:

1) In an effort to give the impression that you have some semblance of control over your own party and can therefore be trusted to govern a nation, try not to imply that your opponents are actually the ones responsible for your party’s nominee selection.

The “You, with your liberal ways, have caused us to carefully stoke a fire for many years, cover ourselves with gasoline and jump straight into it” defence does not inspire the confidence you seem to think it does.

It doesn’t matter how liberal, or non-white or “politically correct” their very popular candidate may be, your own party could still have chosen to nominate literally anyone other than an an angry bag of orange Jell-O who, far from being a successful businessman is America’s astoundingly uncharming answer to Bertie Wooster – if Jeeves ran Breitbart News and Bertie allegedly sexually assaults women at 39,000 feet.

He is your nominee, you picked him, then you backed him. He didn’t pull a sword from a stone.

2) When you are disavowing a candidate this polarizing, you are going to lose some, possibly most, of his hard-core supporters. In the long run, this is a good thing. If you keep those particular supporters around, they will just continue to nominate Trumps.

Should you start feeling sentimental about their support, take a long hard look at the pro-Trump memes posted under every Hillary Clinton tweet.

So much clearly enjoyed effort is put into these vile creations. Maybe Americans need to start quilting more. Seriously, it’s like Nazi Etsy down there.

3) Saying “I denounce his comments and the behaviour that it incites. I believe that Mike Pence would be the best nominee for the Republican Party” is a pretty good example of disavowal.

I’d say, “Share your work with the whole class,” Representative Scott Garrett of New Jersey, had you not had your people follow your statement up by promising that you will, however, of course, be voting for Donald Trump. That’s a fail.

4) Calling Mr. Trump’s actions “indefensible” is more of a conversational gambit than a disavowal, if you do it while you’re still endorsing the man for president, Paul Ryan.

Try practising disavowing in front of your mirror. Just stand up straight, look yourself in the eye and say: “I don’t think Trump should be President. I saw the last debate. I am seriously starting to worry that Donald Trump is just running for office as a really roundabout way of getting people to explain the news to him.”

5) Also, while I understand, given the circumstances, wanting to be both a heartbeat away from the presidency and a million miles away from the actual president, disavowing your candidate is not the same as pretending your candidate doesn’t exist, Mike Pence.

Lonely children often invent imaginary friends and this can be quite healthy. But when you’re an adult and you’re nominated for vice-president and you find yourself onstage in a nationally televised debate introducing the American people to your invisible running-mate, Harvey, the Fiscally Responsible Rabbit Who is Not Best Friends with a Russian Bear, it might be time to think about spending more time with your family.

6) Leave Beyoncé out of it. I really shouldn’t have to explain this to you. Whatever it is (unless it’s a playlist), just leave her out of it.

We’ve reached the point in the American election where it’s possible to entertain, at least for a split second, the notion that Mr. Trump’s campaign team planted The New York Times story that broke late Wednesday alleging that Mr. Trump sexually assaulted two adult women (many more allegations followed). Their motive? To bury the stories from that morning, which reported that he routinely “waltzed in” on naked and almost naked beauty-pageant contestants.

Because he owned the Miss America and the Miss Teen America pageants, some of these Misses were as young as 15.

Who knows? It’s conceivable that, in a campaign this unhinged, someone thought introducing some adult victims might be step one toward their candidate’s rehabilitation.

Last week, when the “pussy tape”story broke, it crossed my mind that, Mr. Trump’s support among what he prefers to frame as “inner-city Americans” being low, someone on his team was hoping to bury the story about how he had just doubled-down on the guilt of the thoroughly exonerated Central Park Five – just some innocent black men he tried very hard to get executed back in the 1990s.

If there was ever a time to disavow, it is now, Republicans.

Look, it’s really not my habit to intrude. Furthermore, I hope my meaning won’t be lost or misconstrued. But I’ll repeat myself at the risk of being crude:

There must be 50 ways to lose that bugger.

You got nothing to lose, Cruz.

He just keeps lyin’, Ryan.

Unstitch those lips, Mitch, and get yourself free.

Come on, Chris Christie, do you get sick of being shifty?

Send his bags to Mar-a-Lago, Marco, and set the GOP free.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Simply put... embarrassing.

And it speaks to the inherent flaws with the system. Is this the best America can do?

BS44325

It's amazing but pretty much nothing has changed...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-4-nationally-229851

Not only that but in WSJ poll that has Hillary up by 11 Trump still has higher honest and trustworthy numbers!

BS44325

josevolution said:

WSJ poll today has him 11 points down, and all he talks about is Rigged election no policies at his rallies talk about ADD instead of staying on message about HC policy..this campaign & candidate will go down as one of the most uninformed , disorganized in the history of this country..it's a damn shame that no balls Paul Ryan has not come out publicly and denounce Trumps Rigged election rhetoric!!

Has the democratic party denounced the "Jeb rigged Florida for George W election rhetoric" yet? It's been 16 years and I'm pretty sure the bulk of the AMT believes it.

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

WSJ poll today has him 11 points down, and all he talks about is Rigged election no policies at his rallies talk about ADD instead of staying on message about HC policy..this campaign & candidate will go down as one of the most uninformed , disorganized in the history of this country..it's a damn shame that no balls Paul Ryan has not come out publicly and denounce Trumps Rigged election rhetoric!!

Has the democratic party denounced the "Jeb rigged Florida for George W election rhetoric" yet? It's been 16 years and I'm pretty sure the bulk of the AMT believes it.

This feels like a diversionary tactic. If you take anything away from 2000 at this point, it's these two lessons, IMO.

1. Third parties can make a difference. And no one ever talks about Perot in 92 either.
2. Al Gore and his concession speech was a critical moment in our history. Does anyone think Trump has any chance of doing anything remotely that classy, even if a landslide?

mrussel1

I tend to read Jonah Goldberg at the National Review, even though I disagree with him on every policy issue, pretty much. But his commentary today was pretty good. I especially liked this line:

I honestly can’t get my head around the fact that Hillary Clinton’s closing “argument” in this election is sexual harassment. Bill Clinton’s lifelong enabler has managed to turn this topic into a deadly weapon against a Republican nominee. This is like Godzilla turning public safety into a winning issue in the Tokyo mayoral race.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/441092/donald-trump-operation-destroy-gop

oftenreading

mrussel1 said:

I tend to read Jonah Goldberg at the National Review, even though I disagree with him on every policy issue, pretty much. But his commentary today was pretty good. I especially liked this line:

I honestly can’t get my head around the fact that Hillary Clinton’s closing “argument” in this election is sexual harassment. Bill Clinton’s lifelong enabler has managed to turn this topic into a deadly weapon against a Republican nominee. This is like Godzilla turning public safety into a winning issue in the Tokyo mayoral race.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/g-file/441092/donald-trump-operation-destroy-gop

It's just too big to ignore, though. There has to be some response, and it can't come off as limp or lukewarm, so it has to be all-in.

HughFreakingDillon

if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.

HughFreakingDillon

saw that video of carson on msnbc. that douche interviewing him shouldn't be on the news. unprofessional idiot. telling carson to stop talking? carson was avoiding the question. call him out on it and move on. don't start shouting at the guy while you sip on your glass of tea. douche.

dignin

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oftenreading said:

And this one's just kind of funny.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/15/tell-america-its-great_n_12504094.html?utm_hp_ref=canada

Yes, America, there's much more to you than Trump.

Good stuff.

InHiding80

mrussel1 said:

InHiding80 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

I dont need government to tell me what is right.

You should not have an abortion then. I know I'm personally against them and if my children got pregnant, I would raise the child to avoid an abortion. But not everyone would have the same support network, therefore I support choice.

How do you feel about extremely extreme late term abortion?

Cue this thread going down the tubes.

Care to put any parameters on that question?

https://youtu.be/z9nkzaOPP6g

JC29856 said:

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

I dont need government to tell me what is right.

You should not have an abortion then. I know I'm personally against them and if my children got pregnant, I would raise the child to avoid an abortion. But not everyone would have the same support network, therefore I support choice.

How do you feel about extremely extreme late term abortion?

Cue this thread going down the tubes.

Care to put any parameters on that question?

https://youtu.be/z9nkzaOPP6g

Oh, you're doing a fine job of that all on your own

Speaking of Cleveland, they need to be inducted ASAP.

Hell, The Wilburys need to be inducted while Lynne, Petty and Dylan are still alive.

Throw in Mudcrutch too. Anything with Petty deserves to be there.

Their first official album came out in 2008 so it will be a long time until induction for them. 25 years is the minimum until a first album is out.

Which means PJ next year!

rgambs

HughFreakingDillon said:

if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.

He's going to be the first nominee to give a sore loser concession speech. He won't accept a fair and square defeat, he will stomp his feet like the petulant child that he is and scream "it's not fair, she cheated!" and embarass America for the last time, hopefully.

Gern Blansten

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.

He's going to be the first nominee to give a sore loser concession speech. He won't accept a fair and square defeat, he will stomp his feet like the petulant child that he is and scream "it's not fair, she cheated!" and embarass America for the last time, hopefully.

I can't believe Pence is still with him. He's a bigger phony than I thought.

Bentleyspop

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

if trump gives a concession speech at all, it will be a tirade against the establishment and the media for rigging the election and how clinton should be impeached, removed from office, and put in prison. mark my words, there isn't a classy bone in that man's body.

He's going to be the first nominee to give a sore loser concession speech. He won't accept a fair and square defeat, he will stomp his feet like the petulant child that he is and scream "it's not fair, she cheated!" and embarass America for the last time, hopefully.

I agree with this totally. Though I hope we are wrong as to how he reacts.

A spoiled child will throw a tantrum when they don't get what they want.

A narcissistic immature spoiled adult will throw a tantrum.and yell "it's rigged they rigged it" over and over when they don't get the result they expected.