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  • Empty GlassEmpty Glass Posts: 12,329
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    I've met Rob

    DEGENERATE FUK

    This place is dead

    "THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015

    "Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    Who
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    josevolution said:

    Who

    He is departed,
    have some respect and don't be so insensitive
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    edited February 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    josevolution said:

    Who

    He is departed,
    have some respect and don't be so insensitive
    You must be nuts I don't give a fuck that his dead & buried ...
    Post edited by josevolution on
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...

    That's how you know it's lunacy lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    edited February 2016
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    Seems any combination of the health issues he faced could be a reasonable causal attribution to his death. Obesity, HBP, Sleep Apnea(of which he was not wearign that night, heart attack risk) smoker , coronary artery disease, diabetes.......

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/texas-sheriff-releases-report-on-supreme-court-justice-scalias-death/2016/02/23/8c0bdb0c-da82-11e5-891a-4ed04f4213e8_story.html?tid=sm_fb
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Fuck Scalia.

    Enough time has elapsed.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    tempo_n_groove said:

    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...

    Even his own family has said the conspiracy theory is ridiculous
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    Bentleyspop said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...

    Even his own family has said the conspiracy theory is ridiculous
    Better timeline and description of the room and its contents in the wash post article I linked above.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Bentleyspop said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...

    Even his own family has said the conspiracy theory is ridiculous
    Hmmmmm. Maybe it was the family?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    Smellyman said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...

    Even his own family has said the conspiracy theory is ridiculous
    Hmmmmm. Maybe it was the family?
    Or he was an obese diabetic smoker with sleep apnea who was not using his machine at least for that night. Not to mention the coronary artery disease.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mickeyrat said:

    Smellyman said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...

    Even his own family has said the conspiracy theory is ridiculous
    Hmmmmm. Maybe it was the family?
    Or he was an obese diabetic smoker with sleep apnea who was not using his machine at least for that night. Not to mention the coronary artery disease.
    Lol...I didn't waste my brain on scalia dead stuff. Is all of that true? Sleep apnea?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    JC29856 said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Smellyman said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    tempo_n_groove said:

    Has anyone heard the conspiracy theory that he was murdered?

    I think it's lunacy but it's getting traction...

    Even his own family has said the conspiracy theory is ridiculous
    Hmmmmm. Maybe it was the family?
    Or he was an obese diabetic smoker with sleep apnea who was not using his machine at least for that night. Not to mention the coronary artery disease.
    Lol...I didn't waste my brain on scalia dead stuff. Is all of that true? Sleep apnea?
    Can fuck you up. I have it. Untreated it contributes to obesity, HBP, heart attacks among others
    I would be awoken 32 times an hour. Quite often by my body jerking violently, leaving me continually sore. "Woke up" more tired than when I tried to go to sleep. With severe headaches on awakening too.

    Nothing to fuck around with.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    i have had sleep apnea for 9 years. have been using a cpap for that long. if not treated it can be fatal, or can lead to long term health effects that could mean a shorter life.

    looking at scalia i am sure he probably had it.

    scalia is dead. he is in the ground. let obama pick the next justice and let the process get started.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,944
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i have had sleep apnea for 9 years. have been using a cpap for that long. if not treated it can be fatal, or can lead to long term health effects that could mean a shorter life.

    looking at scalia i am sure he probably had it.

    scalia is dead. he is in the ground. let obama pick the next justice and let the process get started.

    Agree. Elections matter. The term is 4 years. A Republican president would do the same thing if they were president and try to nominate a justice.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,944
    edited February 2016
    A question for liberals.

    Would you prefer to have nine liberal justices on the Supreme Court or 5 liberal justices and 4 conservative justices? Basically, would you prefer to have 9 justices that fit your political outlook or do you think that it is detrimental to not have multiple viewpoints? For example, if Obama replaces Scalia with a liberal justice then liberals would have a 5-4 lead. If Justice Roberts were to retire later in the year, would you be a proponent to put a more moderate or conservative judge on the bench to make sure the court doesn't get skewed too far in one direction? This would be under an assumption that a conservative President would follow the same methodology so that you don't need to stack the deck during your own term.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    bootlegger10 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i have had sleep apnea for 9 years. have been using a cpap for that long. if not treated it can be fatal, or can lead to long term health effects that could mean a shorter life.

    looking at scalia i am sure he probably had it.

    scalia is dead. he is in the ground. let obama pick the next justice and let the process get started.

    Agree. Elections matter. The term is 4 years. A Republican president would do the same thing if they were president and try to nominate a justice.
    there is talk that this is the first time in american history that a party will block a sitting president from appointing someone to the high court.

    they blame obama for not following the constitution all the time. when he actually tries to carry out what it says in article 2 section 2 they lose their minds.

    when they don't follow the constitution it is not politics, it is doing their duty. :facepalm:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i have had sleep apnea for 9 years. have been using a cpap for that long. if not treated it can be fatal, or can lead to long term health effects that could mean a shorter life.

    looking at scalia i am sure he probably had it.

    scalia is dead. he is in the ground. let obama pick the next justice and let the process get started.

    Agree. Elections matter. The term is 4 years. A Republican president would do the same thing if they were president and try to nominate a justice.
    there is talk that this is the first time in american history that a party will block a sitting president from appointing someone to the high court.

    they blame obama for not following the constitution all the time. when he actually tries to carry out what it says in article 2 section 2 they lose their minds.

    when they don't follow the constitution it is not politics, it is doing their duty. :facepalm:
    Exactly right. I'm not sure why this is even a debate. Obama was elected to office to serve a 4 year term, and is 3/4 of the way through, but he still has 25% of his term to serve. He isn't going to stop being president just because we're in an election cycle, and the congress needs to do their jobs as well.

    Just read that Obama and Reid are vetting the Republican governor of Nevada as a possible SCOTUS nominee. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/02/24/brian-sandoval-republican-governor-of-nevada-is-being-vetted-for-supreme-court-vacancy/?tid=sm_tw

    I think this would be fun to watch. It would really make the Republicans in congress look petty if they wouldn't even consider a fellow Republican for the post.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    He should nominate 10 he'll make it 20 candidates just to make Mitch Mconnel fucking have a heart attack. ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    jeffbr said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    gimmesometruth27 said:

    i have had sleep apnea for 9 years. have been using a cpap for that long. if not treated it can be fatal, or can lead to long term health effects that could mean a shorter life.

    looking at scalia i am sure he probably had it.

    scalia is dead. he is in the ground. let obama pick the next justice and let the process get started.

    Agree. Elections matter. The term is 4 years. A Republican president would do the same thing if they were president and try to nominate a justice.
    there is talk that this is the first time in american history that a party will block a sitting president from appointing someone to the high court.

    they blame obama for not following the constitution all the time. when he actually tries to carry out what it says in article 2 section 2 they lose their minds.

    when they don't follow the constitution it is not politics, it is doing their duty. :facepalm:
    Exactly right. I'm not sure why this is even a debate. Obama was elected to office to serve a 4 year term, and is 3/4 of the way through, but he still has 25% of his term to serve. He isn't going to stop being president just because we're in an election cycle, and the congress needs to do their jobs as well.

    Just read that Obama and Reid are vetting the Republican governor of Nevada as a possible SCOTUS nominee. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/02/24/brian-sandoval-republican-governor-of-nevada-is-being-vetted-for-supreme-court-vacancy/?tid=sm_tw

    I think this would be fun to watch. It would really make the Republicans in congress look petty if they wouldn't even consider a fellow Republican for the post.
    they won't. they are intransigent. and part of being intransigent is giving no quarter. even to people that share their ideology.

    i saw a few days ago when i was on vacation that there are 2 gop senators that are vulnerable, and polls in their states show that if they oppose obama appointing anybody, it tips the election against them and they will lose their seat. it was either a rasmussen (which leans right) or a fox news poll.

    do the republicans really want to risk losing the senate to keep the court at 4-4?

    i believe they are willing to take the chance because they are desperate to maintain some sort of control.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    edited February 2016
    bootlegger10 said:

    A question for liberals.

    Would you prefer to have nine liberal justices on the Supreme Court or 5 liberal justices and 4 conservative justices? Basically, would you prefer to have 9 justices that fit your political outlook or do you think that it is detrimental to not have multiple viewpoints? For example, if Obama replaces Scalia with a liberal justice then liberals would have a 5-4 lead. If Justice Roberts were to retire later in the year, would you be a proponent to put a more moderate or conservative judge on the bench to make sure the court doesn't get skewed too far in one direction? This would be under an assumption that a conservative President would follow the same methodology so that you don't need to stack the deck during your own term.

    I personally just don't want anyone who bring religion and personal biases and bullshit into it. At all. I think a supreme court justice needs to look at the law and use reason and real logic to make their decisions based on the Constitution (or Charter of Rights in Canada). Their political leanings actually shouldn't even matter. But unfortunately it is allowed to. I can't believe it's even legal for SCOTUS judges to vote the way they have on certain issues.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    bootlegger10 said:

    A question for liberals.

    Would you prefer to have nine liberal justices on the Supreme Court or 5 liberal justices and 4 conservative justices? Basically, would you prefer to have 9 justices that fit your political outlook or do you think that it is detrimental to not have multiple viewpoints? For example, if Obama replaces Scalia with a liberal justice then liberals would have a 5-4 lead. If Justice Roberts were to retire later in the year, would you be a proponent to put a more moderate or conservative judge on the bench to make sure the court doesn't get skewed too far in one direction? This would be under an assumption that a conservative President would follow the same methodology so that you don't need to stack the deck during your own term.

    I would prefer to have a justice who checks their personal beliefs and biases at the door. One who can judge a case on its merits or lack there of according to a fair unbiased interpretation of the constitution.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    mickeyrat said:

    bootlegger10 said:

    A question for liberals.

    Would you prefer to have nine liberal justices on the Supreme Court or 5 liberal justices and 4 conservative justices? Basically, would you prefer to have 9 justices that fit your political outlook or do you think that it is detrimental to not have multiple viewpoints? For example, if Obama replaces Scalia with a liberal justice then liberals would have a 5-4 lead. If Justice Roberts were to retire later in the year, would you be a proponent to put a more moderate or conservative judge on the bench to make sure the court doesn't get skewed too far in one direction? This would be under an assumption that a conservative President would follow the same methodology so that you don't need to stack the deck during your own term.

    I would prefer to have a justice who checks their personal beliefs and biases at the door. One who can judge a case on its merits or lack there of according to a fair unbiased interpretation of the constitution.
    i want someone who will recuse him/herself when there is a conflict of interest.

    i'm looking at you clarence thomas.. i was looking at you, scalia.

    sotomayor did it, why can't these people?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited February 2016
    I read somewhere today that McConnell and company just left a session and that no they're going to fight it the whole way. All the way to a new Democratic president is elected.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    Free said:

    I read somewhere today that McConnell and company just left a session and that no they're going to fight it the whole way. All the way to a new Democratic president is elected.

    they are over a barrel. of course they are going to fight it.

    this is what happens when a group of people know that their power is waning.

    let the public shaming from obama begin...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    bootlegger10 said:

    A question for liberals.

    Would you prefer to have nine liberal justices on the Supreme Court or 5 liberal justices and 4 conservative justices? Basically, would you prefer to have 9 justices that fit your political outlook or do you think that it is detrimental to not have multiple viewpoints? For example, if Obama replaces Scalia with a liberal justice then liberals would have a 5-4 lead. If Justice Roberts were to retire later in the year, would you be a proponent to put a more moderate or conservative judge on the bench to make sure the court doesn't get skewed too far in one direction? This would be under an assumption that a conservative President would follow the same methodology so that you don't need to stack the deck during your own term.

    I prefer justices that protect citizens. All citizens and leave their personal red neck biases out of rulings.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,944
    edited February 2016
    I guess I would want some balance on the court just like checks and balances were put in place during the drafting of the constitution to make sure one group or party can't run away with the country and laws.

    I would guess that if I interpreted current legal cases based on a 230 year old document that we would get some weird answers as the constitution was written at a much different time. I think Scalia believed in applying the constitution as written versus trying to provide rulings based on the mood of the country at the time. Some may call it red neck, but others may call it a ruling based on the constitution, and if you don't like it the legislative branch can change the law.

    I said it in the other thread, but it is impossible that the constitution written 230 years ago will support every liberal or every conservative idea. We can't demonize either party if they don't vote the way we want in a case because maybe they are basing their opinion on an interpretation of a 230 year old document and the issue really just needs to be clarified in the legislature. Certainly not every case though, but if you don't like a ruling tell your congressman to change the law being interpreted.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Wtf...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-scalia-spent-his-last-hours-with-members-of-this-secretive-society-of-elite-hunters/2016/02/24/1d77af38-db20-11e5-891a-4ed04f4213e8_story.html?
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