What would you do to improve the Republican Party?

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  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    edited February 2016
    I agree that Kasich seems the least extreme. And he seems normal. Except I could never support someone who denies reproductive rights to women.

    It did make me laugh to read that Hillary is the Dubya of the democrat party. Because, sad to say, I think in many ways, that's true.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    InHiding80 said:

    brianlux said:

    Free said:

    Seriously. Get rid of everyone in there. Start anew. Take it negatively if you want but the Republican Party could really get a boost and fresh start from starting all over. Starting with term limits for everyone and abolishing lobbyists would do wonders for our government. And enough with extremism.

    I can see why Cincy might believe you were being sarcastic. "Everybody" might be a stretch. But a major overhaul would not be a bad idea. The Republican candidates put up this year are a prime example. After 8 years out of the White House, this is what they have to offer? That speaks volumes.
    Years ago, Kasich would have been okay with them. That's how low they've sunken. I wouldn't be ecstatic if he were elected and defeated Bernie but at least it wouldn't be to the point that everyone else is threatening to leave for Canada or whatever if Trump and Cruz get in. Can't blame them. I'd feel the same way towards Hillary as Trump and Cruz as well. She's the Dubya of the democrat party. With Kasich, my reaction would be, "Oh, well. It is what it is. I'll give him a chance for now."
    Enkidu said:

    I agree that Kasich seems the least extreme. And he seems normal. Except I could never support someone who denies reproductive rights to women.

    It did make me laugh to read that Hillary is the Dubya of the democrat party. Because, sad to say, I think in many ways, that's true.

    "Hillary is the Dubya of the democrat party" haha!

    Kasich just announced he is going to strip $1.4 million from Planned Parenthood. To my way of thinking, that's extreme and despicable.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,882
    Enkidu said:

    I agree that Kasich seems the least extreme. And he seems normal. Except I could never support someone who denies reproductive rights to women.

    It did make me laugh to read that Hillary is the Dubya of the democrat party. Because, sad to say, I think in many ways, that's true.

    So to fix either party we need to actually fix the people. Continuing to "debate" actual worthy issues by saying the other view point is "denying women reproductive rights" or the others are a bunch of "baby killers" is exactly why we have the candidates we have.

    I guess we deserve them. Everyone always getting offended at stupid shit and reacting with such anger results in stupid candidates that actually do reflect us unfortunately
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    "Hillary is the Dubya of the democrat party" haha!

    That's good. Reminds me of a friend of mine always saying that Hillary is a closet Republican.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    cincybearcat said:


    I guess we deserve them. Everyone always getting offended at stupid shit and reacting with such anger results in stupid candidates that actually do reflect us unfortunately

    Makes much sense.

    I guess I'm just tired of party/partisan shit. It's like the fifth grade all over again.

    How difficult is it to demand - actually elect and have - representatives who are responsible, accountable, frugal when warranted, open-minded, employ common sense?

    The same basics I expect of myself and fellow citizens...which, by the way, these politicians are.

    And maybe, also, for us to be the change we want to see?

  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    I'm always amazed - who would want to be a politician? And I'm being serious - is it about wanting power? Wanting to do public service? I just finished the biography of Alexander Hamilton and it's great because it's all about the beginning of this country. And today I finished a book on Joe McCarthy (who looks way too much like Ted Cruz) and that's about the splintering of a country.

    I can't think of anything I would like to do less than be president.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Enkidu said:

    I'm always amazed - who would want to be a politician? And I'm being serious - is it about wanting power? Wanting to do public service? I just finished the biography of Alexander Hamilton and it's great because it's all about the beginning of this country. And today I finished a book on Joe McCarthy (who looks way too much like Ted Cruz) and that's about the splintering of a country.

    I can't think of anything I would like to do less than be president.

    Lots of perks being a politician, esp. Those w/ life terms...
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    E, I imagine that in the beginning, it was about public service (and wish it still were). Now it seems more about ego, power, image...a false sense of altruism.

    Smoke and mirrors.

    One of my cousins ran for office years ago in NY. A young, earnest and stand-up guy. Genuinely wanted to do good and make a difference. Didn't stand a chance because his competition had a shitload more money.

    Welcome to the machine.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Ugh, the fucking terms too. This shit shouldn't be a career.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    hedonist said:

    Ugh, the fucking terms too. This shit shouldn't be a career.

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    I have a nephew who wanted to work in politics and tried really hard to make a go at it, too. He genuinely wanted to make a difference. Seeing the reality of it though change his mind within 2 years. He now works for a nonprofit actually making a difference.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    One day.
    ?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyvN32fTbwQ
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Trump. Cruz.

    Seriously, to think this party doesn't need some fixing would be pretty crazy.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    Jeb Bush outspent every other candidate and got just about as many votes as John Kasich.

    Kasich devoted so little resources and attention to South Carolina that he spent today campaigning in Vermont and Massachusetts.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,882
    rgambs said:

    Trump. Cruz.

    Seriously, to think this party doesn't need some fixing would be pretty crazy.

    Sure do. And the other has a 1 issue candidate that never held a job vs a criminal. As I said this is very bad for all of us
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    hedonist said:

    E, I imagine that in the beginning, it was about public service (and wish it still were). Now it seems more about ego, power, image...a false sense of altruism.

    Smoke and mirrors.

    One of my cousins ran for office years ago in NY. A young, earnest and stand-up guy. Genuinely wanted to do good and make a difference. Didn't stand a chance because his competition had a shitload more money.

    Welcome to the machine.

    There is one candidate who is running with only public service in mind.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    cincybearcat said:

    rgambs said:

    Trump. Cruz.

    Seriously, to think this party doesn't need some fixing would be pretty crazy.

    Sure do. And the other has a 1 issue candidate that never held a job vs a criminal. As I said this is very bad for all of us
    Head Start teacher, psychiatric aide, carpenter, filmmaker and writer. These don't count as jobs?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    The thread title says "Rebulican",
    is this an American slang for Republican?
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited February 2016
    cincybearcat said:

    rgambs said:

    Trump. Cruz.

    Seriously, to think this party doesn't need some fixing would be pretty crazy.

    Sure do. And the other has a 1 issue candidate that never held a job vs a criminal. As I said this is very bad for all of us
    brianlux said:

    cincybearcat said:

    rgambs said:

    Trump. Cruz.

    Seriously, to think this party doesn't need some fixing would be pretty crazy.

    Sure do. And the other has a 1 issue candidate that never held a job vs a criminal. As I said this is very bad for all of us
    Head Start teacher, psychiatric aide, carpenter, filmmaker and writer. These don't count as jobs?
    Right wing radio and facebook memes say no.

    Never worked a day vs. a criminal......
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    The thread title says "Rebulican",
    is this an American slang for Republican?

    Fixed! Thank you!!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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