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My Future Lottery Proposal
Here is my proposal for making the lottery more fair and attempting to make sure that everybody gets at least one show that they try for. Instead of doing a single stage lottery, they split it up into multiple stages.
Stage 1: Works the same way as it does now, pick from 1st choices then 2nd choices etc, but once you get chosen your name is removed from other lotteries. They would have to pick 1st choices for all of the options before moving on to 2nd choices to make sure nobody can win their 2nd choice before they win their 1st choice.
Stage 2: Everybody goes back in and it starts over for any options that have tickets available.
Repeat this until all tickets are gone.
This would eliminate the situation where there are two people with the same first and second choices but one gets both and the other gets neither. The odds of getting your first choice would remain exactly the same, but the odds of getting your second choice after losing your first choice would be much greater. Now, if you only choose one option then this doesn't change anything for you, but the chances of you getting shut out completely would be very low if you choose multiple options.
Any thoughts?
Stage 1: Works the same way as it does now, pick from 1st choices then 2nd choices etc, but once you get chosen your name is removed from other lotteries. They would have to pick 1st choices for all of the options before moving on to 2nd choices to make sure nobody can win their 2nd choice before they win their 1st choice.
Stage 2: Everybody goes back in and it starts over for any options that have tickets available.
Repeat this until all tickets are gone.
This would eliminate the situation where there are two people with the same first and second choices but one gets both and the other gets neither. The odds of getting your first choice would remain exactly the same, but the odds of getting your second choice after losing your first choice would be much greater. Now, if you only choose one option then this doesn't change anything for you, but the chances of you getting shut out completely would be very low if you choose multiple options.
Any thoughts?
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It would help split the tickets when performing multiple shows in the same city, and it would help full leg tours, when people select GA/Reserved for a single show get trumped by people choose Reserved/Reserved from two different shows.
I feel the Lotto system is pretty good, but there is that one thing that feels like it could use tweaking, as it creates opportunities for some people two get two pairs and some people to get none.
There's limitations on how you can do it for full tours because you don't know what people will get in future draws. If you draw shows in chronological order you can really only base it on what's been pulled so far.
1998: Montreal, Mansfield I&II
2000: Mansfield I&II, Montreal
2003: Las Vegas, Toronto, Montreal, Mansfield I&III
2005: Montreal, Ottawa, Quebec
2006: Albany, Hartford, Boston I&II
2007: Lollapalooza
2008: Bonnaroo, Camden I&II, Hartford, Mansfield I&II
2009: Philadelphia III&IV
2010: Hartford, Boston, New York City II
2011: Alpine Valley I&II
2013: Buffalo, Worcester I&II, Hartford, Los Angeles I&II
2014: Tulsa, Lincoln
2016: New York City I&II, Quebec City, Boston I&II, Chicago I&II
2017: New York
2018: Seattle I&II, Boston I&II
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Cos i want to go to shows there are tix available and i can get all my ,lets say 4 picks
This has nothing to do with how many picks u enter..and in different shows than you
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I want to go msg and jax
U want to go to msg and philly
I won msg first priority . u lost your msg
So there are tix for me in jax and i cant get them cos u didnt win your msg 1st and and lost philly as well cos gone to people with 1sr priority??..the rickets are available must be sold to people wants them even as 10th priority
Its impossible to do it as u saying
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
At anouncement all infos are there
U read and u make choices..when u know ga are less tickets available than seated which was clear at the announcement and all goes first priorities for ga is not lottery problem
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
2000: Pitt
2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
2005: Pitt
2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
2008: Camden 1+2, DC
2009: Philly 3
2010: Columbus
2012: Philly
2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
I call it the You win some, You lose some proposal
2023: Seattle x2 (EV) 2024: Vancouver x2, Seattle x2 (ISO: 1 N1 Seattle GA)
2nd would be what the OP is alluding to. Some kind of drawing method that makes it impossible for someone to land 2 shows before someone who can land 1 of the same shows. 2nd round would give priority to those who lost in round 1.
3rd would be some sort of # of shows preference. Say I'm going for some high demand shows because they are convenient, but get shut out, but would be willing to give a low-demand travel show a shot if I get denied as a safety net, it should be possible/easy to specify # of shows. That way I cant get stuck with 4 tickets to different shows in different cities if I get too "lucky". This actually kind of happened to me this round.
Not all but most of what I have seen with people getting shut out of the lottery is how they are picking their priorities...if you chose all GA as your priority for every pick you are basically screwing yourself
when they announced Wrigley the first time there was no way I was going for GA that was my last choice I went for seats and won....when I went for St. Louis GA I made it my first priority because I felt the home show would benefit me some (eventho there is nothing saying so) and it did for GA. With Lexington I went for GA first being that it was a less in demand show and close to me in proximity and I won GA again...I have a method to my madness which is basically luck I supposed but you have to be smart with all your picks and always picking GA isn't going to benefit you.
In the simplest terms, say two people chose Wrigley I Res 1st, and Wrigley II Res 2nd. Right now, person A can win both shows, while person B can be shut out of the same choices and have nothing.
Say person A got Wrigley Reserved I and Person B missed Wrigley GA I, both put Wrigley II reserved as their 2nd priority, Person B would be eligible for winning the Wrigley II Res tickets as a priority before person A who already landed show I.
With digital memberships being $20, it's extremely cheap to figure out who you want to go to the concerts with and get them to get memberships too.
That's how I feel anyways. Long gone are the days where people milked the benefits of my 10c membership. If they want to come they need 10c memberships too
But still the odds are there..u need to understand them
For exable msg...lets say u put msg 1 ga first....
Why the hell u put msg 2 ga as 2nd priority???..its a lost before the draw!!!!!
Ga at msg will go ONLY to some has it 1st priority..end of story..its so obvious
And cos u know u cant win both nights at msg..directly u go -to another city and only seated
So thats how people won msg ga and second philly seated
..and them some others put
Msg 1 ga
Msg 2 ga
Phily 1 ga
Philly 2 ga
Aka..u will get 0 or 1..u knew it before the draw
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
And by far with ga there are more tix avaivable for the fan club than with seats on the flor
People need to read and understand how to put their entries and how many chances they have with the way they put their priorities
The system is great and fzir and if they sell single tix would be perfect
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...I changed by not changing at all..."